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See you later, everyone.

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than writing

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I dont think you can control a student, but its a matter of the more they put in the more they get out of it.

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are coming from!

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How do we encourage students to actually write and not just "BS" assignments?

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How I feel when Emig says speaking is more natural and inherent

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Natalie, I can totally understand where you

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Thanks Lindsey

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+1 to the ghost

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Katharine, great question.  Making drafts low stake but also high stake enough that students know they are important is difficult.  Completion grades make them low stakes, but students can definitely "BS" those and not take full advantage of that risk-taking process... - Natalie S.

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Emily and Brady, I also think that there are limitations to Perl's case study. I found Tony interesting, and I don't think identities can be separate from our writing processes. I would have liked to read about the other writers that they did research on. I think there was four total, but they only included one for some reason. *thinking face emoji

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@taylor  I learned grammar through workbooks and diagraming sentences from kindergarten to senior year of high school. I hated it the entire tie, but now I tend to implicitly know what is considered grammatically correct even when I cannot give the rule or reason why.  -Alex Nunes

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Writing is more natural to me than speaking because I am visual and an introvert.  Marlene

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I thought of you Marlene and Maria when I read that section and that's why I asked the question! (Lindsey)

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Way to find the GIFs, people.

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How do you utilize writing to learn in the classroom?

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@Maria  I think it is fair to question a professor, but there are many benefits to experimenting with multimodality and different mediums in your writing. One student should not dictate what we do. I quite enjoy the graphing we did on the board today.  -Alex Nunes

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Emily- I had real issues with Perl's case studies. I think the act of having to talk your writing process out loud fundamentally changes both your thinking and your writing in ways that might not accurately reflect the actual process.

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How do we feel about the assumption by Emig that speaking is more natural than writing?

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As an instructor, how do you build in low stake drafts to allow the student to undergo the writing process meaningfully?  From Murray's reading, instructors must stand back and stop talking about writing, and let the students experience it. How do you know how many drafts are enough and how do you find time in a sometimes limited lesson plan?

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I loved Pete's review process, too.  It seemed open-ended enough to allow the reader to respond "as a reader" yet guided enough that I felt that I knew what was expected/helpful. BUT - we are grad students.  How can we get a good peer review going with undergrads or highschoolers?  - Natalie S.

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When I think about learning grammar, I think about my 8th grade English teacher, Mrs. Bainas. She was old school! She had us diagraming sentences and spent an awful lot of time on this. She also forced me to join our school's Writing Club, so I HAD to make sure I followed the grammar rules. ---Brenda M.

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I also love diagraming sentences, but I am now out of practice. Have you seen Pop Chart Lab? They have posters of diagrammed classic first sentences of novels. Ekram

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Definitely disagree with Emig's claim. We read some literature in our essay class about how speaking isn't more "natural" than writing, because all communication is learned). We learn to speak, the same way we learn to write. Just because it feels easier or more natural doesn't mean it actually is! - Alex G

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Brenda, have you taught your students your process? -Taylor

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I learned grammar through workbooks and diagraming.  I loved diagraming sentences. Marlene

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Were you taught process in school?  If so,  at what point did you find yourself able to reach beyond the confines of these highly structured approaches so that more mature writing could emerge?  Was there a particular lesson or teacher that helped you see the writing process in a new way?  (christina)

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My favorite stage of the writing process is prewriting because I like to think about different ideas.  Marlene

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Peer review can be daunting but so helpful - what are the best ways that you've seen peer review be successful?  - Natalie S.

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I feel different about prewriting strategies, so I draw. But once I experienced a student who was very aggressive of drawing in college writing class. She almost created a tension of me using markers or drawings in class. That is why my writing differs a bit from how I teach it. (Maria)

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Emily, I've been thinking about that question today! I don't know if asking students to verbalize their writing process yields accurate results... I feel like I'd be too busy writing/thinking/etc to verbalize everything
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I wonder how your writing (personal) "process" is different from how you teach it or use it professionally (projects)? I don't feel like my process happens in such discrete parts. I feel like so much important thinking happens when I read, largely because so much of the writing I do is in response to reading. I take so many notes and talk about what I read with people, which is an important part of preparing me to write. I don't feel like revision is something that happens completely separately from my writing, but editing certainly feels like it does. I don't think I can write three sentences without "reworking" them multiple times. I can't move on until I feel great about what's there. I think this is different from the editing that the unskilled writers were doing in Sommers and Perl, as most of the changes that I make are about more effectively executing my intentional meaning. Or sometimes this toggling of language is where the "discovery of truth" happens. ~Emily Power

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I think my favorite part of the writing process is when that initial idea hits me and the ideas start flowing. I think my least favorite is the peer review because I feel nervous or frustrated if the feedback is not specific enough. Or when I've procrastinated until the last minute and then simultaneously have a writer's block....-Taylor

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My personal process is the same as my teaching because I model strategies. Marlene

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I revise so much while I'm writing that I rarely make major changes to after my initial draft. It's not that I think my writing is too good to revise-- far from it. My revision process is just constantly occurring because I spot things I want to change mid-writing.

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"Editing" -- combing over words for grammatical errors and missing commas -- is my least favorite by far. At that point, I just want my writing to be done!
- Alex G

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Natalie, I loved Pete's review process in the Essay class!

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I'm a more experienced writer than my students, so I don't expect them to write the same way that I do

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What is your favorite stage of the writing process?  Why?  What is your least favorite stage of the writing process?  Why?

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I had to do workbooks for years in elementary school!

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How did you learn grammar? Work books? I feel I learned most of my grammar practices in foreign language class. -Taylor

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I think I learned a lot of grammar implicitly, by reading well-written stuff

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Marlene Matthias

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After this week's readings, I find that my teaching of the writing process is different than my own writing process. I teach very linear (pre-writing, writing, revision), with the end-product in mind. However, my own process is very different. I often find myself writing little blurbs in a notebook, often responding to a thought I've had during the day, or a sentence that's stuck in my head, and won't really look back at this writing for some time. When I come back to it, I find myself responding and adding more to this. --Brenda Moreno

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My favorite stage is "pre-writing" - just discussing and formulating my ideas and figuring out what I even think about a topic (re: topoi) - Natalie S.

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I never took a class that covered grammar until recently.  I knew it intuitively but never really understood it until I taught it.

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How useful is Perl's study of Tony? Do you feel like the conditions in which Tony was writing are reflective of how he writes on his own time? Do you think the coding method was particularly insightful? (Emily Power)

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My personal writing process is largely the same as how I tend to teach it. I focus on the prompt and determine what is being asked. From there I think about the content I want to include and the structure that would best accommodate it. Thinking about the writing process what do you do first? Do you analyze what is being asked and only begin to formulate after determining the question. Or do you rush to the ideas and structure them as an answer after the fact. -Alex Nunes

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When I write for work it is more laid back.  We use Spark which is like IM so I don't have to be very formal, but I do need to make it clear what it is I need help with. The supervisors are my audience, and I want to make sure they can see my question and can respond quickly without asking me more info.  Ekram O.

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I wonder how your writing (personal) "process" is different from how you teach it or use it professionally (projects)?

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Week 2: Theories of "Process"
Post your questions on the theories of "process"