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I agree with Rithwika that they fit with the pedagogical function.

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I also noticed that a lot of the aliens are savage and tend to attack the main characters

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Going back to the droids I think they fit the idea that they help us fulfill what we think the world should be because without R2D2 Leah might not have been able to complete her mission and get a empire free world like she wanted

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I think what Katie said about how none of the robots rebelled against the humans, it sort of showed Campbells idea about robots sort of playing such a pivotal role —Daphne

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Majority of them are clones Pasquale

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The robots clearly have their own emotions and personalities, and they have all these varying designs, but the stormtroopers are all the same

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The storm troopers look like robots, and they are not as perfect as the Force which is why the good guys prevail.

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I agree with Lisa. I think many characters had their own hero's journeys. e.g: Han Solo's character development, the droids

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I agree Ryan, I think a group of hero's journeys overlapped, but the main one was Luke's journey b/c the movie follows him as a character more

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I think what Conrad just said was really good, it shows that the Force is perfect and nothing is better and more accurate than the Force.

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I thought the droids fit into a companion archetype.

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and this was one of the minor stories in itself

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I don't think the abyss was Obi Wans death because he wasn't transformed right after that, more had to happen.

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I think there are compounding hero's journey's in this series

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Isn't the return of the journey back to the base and the medal ceremony?

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I agree with Bernardo. There wasn't too strong of an abyss, even though I said earlier that it was Obi Wan's death.

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I agree with Katie because the abyss leads into the transcendence which could have been the ceremony or reuniting with the rebels.

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-Daphne

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Yes, I agree with Ryan, the threshold was when his uncle and aunt died where he reached un own territory. I also think Obi Wann was a thershold guardian.

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Conrad made an interesting point as well, everything lead up to the deathstar's explostion

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I think Luke is sad for the death of Obi Wan, but hes not that sad and he realizes what he has to do know and why Obi Wan let himself die.

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I think the abyss is when he was destroying the death star.  Like we said he has to face the abyss alone which is why Obi Wan had to die I am not sure if he does face it alone though because R2D2 is there with him in the abyss

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I think the Abyss was when Luke had to use the force to destory the Death Star

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I agree with Lucas. I also think Obi Wan is kind of a guardian for both the threshold and revelation.

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I believe the threshold is when his aunt and uncle die

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I agree with Katie. Obi Wan's death seems like an abyss because he doesn't really know how to react after it.

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I think Obi Wan is definitely a threshold guardian because he kind of makes sure Luke doesn't die until Luke is ready, when Obi Wan lets himself get killed by Vader.

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Wait what did Katie say the abyss was?

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Yeah, I think the rebellion serves the sociological function in how it teaches you to fight for something bigger than yourself

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And the rebellion gave the people power

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The rebellion is also something that united the people against the Empire

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I agree with Sriram, the rebellion is a societal Dream

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Obi Wan was also the one who brought Luke onto this journey and now Luke must finish it

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Obi Wan was more of a father figure than Darth Vadar was, so it's ironic that Luke's actual father killed his mentor.

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Motivated to complete his quest too

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I agree with Amanda

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Luke said that he wouldn't join the rebellion until his aunt and uncle died. After that he said "there is nothing for me here anymore" and he joined the rebellion to find his purpose and avenge his aunt and uncle's death.

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I think the death also made Luke realize the consequences of war, and it made him more motivated to defeat Darth Vadar.

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I think Obi Wan was also one of the last traces of home and one of the last people he trusted as more of a parental figure

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I agree

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I agree with what Conrad said and adding on to that I think that Obi-Wan's death was him passing on the "Torch" to Luke as a Jedi

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Causing him to come to the Threshold of his Hero's Journey

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I agree with Conrad. Obi Wan's death really shook Luke since he was his mentor.

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I agree with Charlotte

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It is flight school to join the Rebellion

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Maybe Luke just had different priorities, and the Empire hadn't affected him until his aunt and uncle were killed

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That is also what the accademny is

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During the storyline, Luke also starts off so eager and innocent, but once he takes the journey he is still excited, but he understands the difficulty of being in a war after he loses Obi Wan.

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But to back him, Katie, the happenings of the empire had no affect on him

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Yeah I agree Sydney

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Well in the Zoom they talked about how he didnt want to help the rebels until the empire killed his aunt and uncle so that was cruel some would say

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I think very few children are actually "cruel"

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But some adults are even more cruel (Vader)

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I don't think they are cruel on purpose.

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What action do you think was cruel?

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That is why they are kind of cruel, because they don't understand

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I agree Katie, they haven't maybe developed their sense of morality fully

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Kids a innocent, they don't understand. They don't lack mortality

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I agree with what Jaden is saying

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I dont think kids lack morality instead they dont have a full understanding of how important everything is. Its all a game to them

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Their character arcs are different

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I guess it kind of guides you

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Yeah I never though about that either

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I agree with Amanda

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I agree with Katie. I think the Force has more transcendence than the gods in the Odyssey because the gods can take physical forms. The Force is more complicated than that, and not even all the people (for example, Han Solo in the beginning) believe in it.

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I hadn't thought about it fulfilling the pedagogical funtion, teaching you how to live

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kids are cruel, they lack a sense of morality

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I agree with Lucas

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I agree, it's not as much a person as it is something that is believed to keep balance in the universe

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I agree with Katie because the force is so powerful that it can be manipulated to be either good or evil, it just depends on how people chose to use it.

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mystical

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So the Force fulfills the sociological and pedagogical and maybe the mistical

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The force doesn't explain why things happen in nature like Poseidan causes waves etc. But the force explains more mental things like why people are bad or good etc.

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The force guides just as the gods do as Conrad said

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I agree with what Conrad is saying. The Force can hurt or help people depending on the moment.

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Yeah

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like chi or something

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Maybe its something like the will to control ones inner strength

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I don't know maybe its a kind of luck thing or destiny

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Also, everyone in the film was calling the force an ancient religion

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I agree with what Pasquale said before because I also don't think Luke is as experienced as Odysseus and when Obi-wan died I think that that was his first step to become more experienced like Odysseus in the fact that he must do it alone now and by himself.

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Sorry I said that a bit late

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Maybe the force is what their religion "worships" (not exactly though), and the Jedi just use it

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Even Hans says it despite him not being a Jedi

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However, it takes work and effort to wield the force

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If someone knows how to use it you could say

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Then why do they say may the force be with you?

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Somebody must harness the power

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Yeah but the Force only helps when there is a Jedi to use it.

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As Obi-Wan said, "the force is everywhere"

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I disagree with Katie although the Jedi can use the Force whenever they want unlike the gods

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I agree with Katie because the Force and the Gods only helped when necesary, for example when Obi Wan whispered in Lukes ear for guidance.

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I agree with Pasquale. I think Telemachus is more like Luke. If Darth Vadar was not evil, I would even say he is similar to Odysseus because they are both supposed to have father roles, but are not there to fulfill that role.

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Odysseus doesnt learn any new skills you could say, thats why he is more experienced I guess

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I agree with Pasquale

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The Gods and the Force are always there, just not always helping.

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Odysseus knew how to fight, he commanded an army, he is old, he was a king. Luke is young and just helped his uncle farm

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But being a flyer isn't as important to Luke later in the movies, it is more being a good Jedi.

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I agree with Jaden. Both the Force and the Gods in the Odyssey are not always interfering, but they do help when needed.