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I agree with you that were repeating history were going in an onward cycle and don't seem to learn from our mistakes

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It wasn't worth it because they were exonerated after they were already dead you can't bring someone who's dead back to life they hanged many innocent people out of accusations. which is not worth it.

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I agree with Grace in the fact that it was not a good punishment. It was exessive and they didn't ever have proper proof. Too many people died for being wrongfully accused and

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This has happened in other points in history when people are released from jail after being wrongfully accused.

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I think it's worth it. Being sentenced to death for something that you didn't do isn't right and they should be seen throughout history for who they really are.

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I think it was worth it. Changing how they were seen throughout history and being cleared of being seen as a witch is important.
These acts also happen at points in history when people are released from jail after being wrongfully accused.

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@Peter I think your compensation idea is clever and I'm mad at myself for not figuring that out myself.

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@Hailey I agree with what you had to say about how a tarnished reputation can be fixed but a life cannot be taken back. I feel that if the townspeople would have realized that then the death count would be a lot smaller.

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Unfair events like this have repeated itself in history many times before with the holocaust, Japanese internment camps, 9/11, and the list goes on. When will the world learn from it's mistakes.

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I don't think it was worth it, a life is more valuable than a reputation. As long as you know what you believe in it doesn't matter what others think. Personally I would have just confessed to being a witch so that I could be spared.

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I do not think it was worth it at all. A person's life is not something that should be taken away so easily, especially if they are innocent. The people in the Salem witch trials were very ignorant and took the lives of many without hesitation. This has happened other times in history. Instances like the Holocaust or the Hollywood Ten show how people got falsely accused for reasons that really aren't logical.

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@alondra I agree with you. It's terrible when people are killed just by their looks and actions. History seems to forever repeat itslef.

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@Hailey You basically said everything I was thinking. The Hollywood Ten is a prime example.

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I don't think it was worth. The families might've got an apology but that's not the point. Those innocent people were accused of things they didn't do. No matter if you were guilty or not, they didn't care and you were hanged. This has happened numerous times in the past. For instance, communism,or even when a simple crime is done, they look at a certain race over another one.

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@caroli I agree because I wouldn't just want an apology I would want so much more for the mistake that they caused

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@JZ some people think that money is more worth it than people and you can't just change that.

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I don't think it was worth it because in the end they just had to apologize in the end and most of the people didn't come to even hear it. Even if you weren't a witch you could still be hanged because they didn't have any evidence to back you up.

This has happened in the past because we are always repeating history. When people go to court they can still be accused of something they didn't do but end up in jail because there wasn't any hard evidence to save them.

@brent
I couldn't agree more, innocent people lost so much because of how this generation ever believes they deserve everything and it is okay to harm someone just to make a point.

@jason
I totally agree, if I had family members who got killed for something they didn't do I would not forgive the killer that easily because I don't believe it is fair to make you feel better about yourself because you apologized and I forgave you. You should love with the guilt for the rest of your life.

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I don't think it was worth it because regardless you would die because you either admitted to being a witch or they thought you were one so they killed you.

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What if families whose ancestors have been named witches didn't care about having their names cleared, but only did it so they could get easy money. I'd be one those people who'd bullshit about "having my family name cleared" and demand compensation.

A lot of these discussions are rehashed and really stupid and automatic.\

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@Jay I think a couple hundred bucks is cheap. I think a couple thousand bucks is good.

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@Nessa, I think a lot of Americans just don't want their tax money going to refugees, when there are homeless vets and children in America.

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I don't really know what the actual question is but I'm seeing people talk about confessing and the clearing of names and compensation so this is my answer for, "Is the clearing/ compensation worth" I really couldn't care whether my name was cleared because I could just move out of Massachusetts and find a new home, plus it happened so long ago I really couldn't see why it matters. I'd gladly take the compensation though because its free money. Plus I could just take the money and move out, because no one else outside of Salem even thinks about that. Half the people in Salem don't even think much about it.

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@Caroli
I disagree, if my distant ancestors were cleared of being a witch and offered money compensation to me. I'd definitely take the compensation. Maybe even complain for a couple thousand bucks more

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If I was accused of being a witch, I would have confessed. Doing so, I would have a chance of being in jail, and not a hanging like those who denied. Tituba confessed and she was jailed and later released. I would've also falsely accused someone else of tempting me so that they take away the attention from me and hopefully they're stupid enough to deny and they would get a hanging. This has happened before after Pearl Harbor, when Roosevelt was pressured into signing exec order 9066, forcing Japanese Americans to sell their property and live in camps. It falsely accused a lot of Japanese because Americans didn't know where their loyalty stood.

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@Alondra I agree with your statement that history repeats itself. Unfortunately we live in a country where we are supposedly "created equal," yet aren't treated like it. It is sad to say racism still exists in America being that we've had our first black president already. We are taught in school to treat everyone with respect and fairness, but social media glamorizes the injustice in society and leads us to believe that there still is an invisible barrier between races, as foolish as it sounds. It is sad to see our two elected presidential candidates both have a lot to do with this issue as well.

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I do not think it was worth it after decades of being considered a witch because they had already paid the price. Although their families wanted their names to be remembered positively, nobody knows who they are and they are dead now so they don't have a reputation to maintain anymore. The execution of many men and women who were falsely accused, compares to the present day discrimination against the Syrian refugee immigrants. Many people believe that because a few people of their race committed a terrorist attack on the U.S. on 9/11 that they all are suspicious in being that they intend to do the same.

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@Rim
I agree with your statement. Her decision was not worth it. However, most people in that era were not smart (obviously) to realize the options and choices they had to continue their life freely. She was just another victim of this idiocy and chose her social reputation over her own life. Which, as you stated, literally killed her.

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@Camila I definitely believe that the events of the Salem Witch Trials can be related to the Black Lives Matter movement currently. Many are being judge on appearance as much as the "witches" were being tried on their life choices are actions. Such as not memorizing their commandments. I also agree that no matter how much someone can apologize, that person is never coming back and what's done is done. That is why so many are bringing awareness to the issues with the Black Lives Matter

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@Mike
I agree with your point, but I don't think much people are learning from history--especially today. Those scenarios of fear, accusations, and manipulation were, and still, are being repeated after the Salem Witch Hunts. Although this incident is noted in every history book and we all learn about how bad it was, it doesn't stop us from repeating the same atrocities. Whether we like it or not, fear and blame instincts are factors of our human nature; and so, the Salem Witch Trials will be repeated in different scenarios over and over again, even if we don't want to.

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@Alondra I agree with this. You can also see it in the events of September 11th, because as much as we'd like to deny it, there are many people out there who assume all muslims are terrorists

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I don't think it was worth it because nothing can undo the damage done to families by the execution of so many innocent people. I know if it had my relatives in that position, I don't think compensation or an apology could make up for what happened to them.

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@Jay
I see where you're coming from, but the only thing they could do is give money for compensation, especially when the people who should be punished are dead.

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@Alondra I wholeheartedly agree with your statement considering the fact that we keep giving weapons to countries to help them in their war only for them to turn against us like the Syrian Rebels who happily took our weapons and became ISIS members usuing our weapons.

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Although  reputation is important, dying for it was definitely not worth it. Worst to happen is that everyone thinks she's a witch and they will forget  about it after a while. If not, then she can move to another town or state and start a new life. If she lives, they'll think she's a witch and if she dies, it will be by hanging because they still think she's a witch. She chose her fate trying to please people and it literally killed her.

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@Chase
I disagree a bit with that statement only because they were afraid of death like any other human being. Sure you could stand against them but are you willing to pay the price with your life?

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In my opinion it wasn't really worth it because even though you exonerated those people they still died and an apology isn't worth a human life. An example of this would be 9/11. Many innocent lives were lost that day because a group of terrorists waged war on American soil. Another example Would be the Pearl Harbor bombings which, the Liberty Grenadier Band will be playing for its anniversary.

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No I do not think it was worth it because peoples lives matter more than money or supersitions/fears.  Yes this has happened in the history many times. Example the Holocaust.

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No I do not think it was worth it because peoples lives matter more than money or supersitions/fears.  Yes this has happened in the history many times. Example the Holocaust.

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@Hailey I can agree with you on that and I like how u connected this to the Red Scare.

@Mike Yes that is so true the Puritans were biased people but I also think that they forced their beliefs onto others.

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I disagree with your statement about being a confessing to be a witch even if your not. Stand up for what you believe in; if your not a witch, stay by that statement until the end.

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I wonder why people even forgave the states for killing their family. It doesn't make sense in my opinion, why would I forgive pointless murder for someone I care about? So it bewilders me to know that some people forgave the state for what happened.

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I feel like compensation for lost family members is the least amount of effort that the anyone can do as an apology . Throughout history, when some bazar event occur (Salem Witch Trails for example) and people are murdered the U.S just gives the family money and everything is supposed to be okay. In my opinion that's cheap and shows that the Country could careless about your families tragedy.

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@Christina
I agree to what you're saying about how humanity can't learn from past experiences.However India has an entirely different
history and beliefs than we do so the Salem Witch Trails wouldn't be a learning experience for them.

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@grace
I agree with this mainly because of the fact that you'd be choosing to live or die. I wouldn't care if people were talking behind my back. Even if I wasn't a witch, I would still tell them I was. If I knew they'd kill me for claiming I wasn't a witch, I'd rather lie to live.

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@Alondra
I absolutely agree. We've seen the same thing happen over and over again. You think we'd learn from our mistakes yet here we are. The black lives matter protest just goes to show how America is still struggling and still making the same mistakes.

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This can be related to the black lives matter protest going on. There are plenty of black people being killed without evidence of doing anything wrong. As I stated before, you can apologize all you'd like but those fathers, mothers. daughters, son, etc. are never coming back. You can only blame the people who did it.

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I feel as though there was no point to apologizing and trying to make things okay with the families. You can apologize all you'd like.. but they are dead. No amount of money or apologizes is going to bring them back. Yeah, maybe it could have helped to ease the situation, but nothing can help them go back in time and stop from killing those innocent people.

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@Alondra
There are many instances that are examples of history repeating itself. For example, during each presidential election, similar topics and battles arise. Wars are also a great example of history repeating itself. Most of the time wars are caused by similar unimportant things. Usually wars start with one big event, like Pearl Harbor

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@Rhianna
I feel that even after all these years, it was a good thing for them to exonerated for the sake of the relatives. In addition, by them being exonerated, it allowed for their reputation being taught to future generations is not tainted. Years after something is done wrongly or someone is wrongly accused, families fight for their loved ones, but not for the person themselves, for the people close to them. Most of the time, people affected by accusations continuously search for answers and someone to blame.

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@Grace
I agree that people during this time would rather have died than live with a tarnished reputation. If they were believed to be a witch then they would be scorned by by the whole community. They felt that if they admitted it they were better off dead. The people that are accused and admit they are witches normally go and accuse other people in society. If you were the one that was accusing everyone, then normally you wouldn't be accused. it was the people that laid low in society that were accused.

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@Hailey I agree with you a hundred percent especially when she said that, “everyone only gets one life, but a reputation can be fixed, or they could move away to start a clean slate.” You can always fix your reputation by doing deeds just like Hester did in The Scarlet Letter but you cannot wish back your life.

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@Hailey I agree that "life is more important than a damaged reputation". This is a powerful statement because all life is precious. Nobody deserves to lose their life, especially for not committing any wrong act. Consequences are definitely necessary for those who need them, but I believe that ending another's life is not the answer.

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@Mike I agree, this was the best they could do to compensate for their wrongdoings. Their false accusations cost many people their lives and as a result, they tried to do the best they could with handling this.
@Mrs. Griffith This happens a lot in the news, where a man will spend years of his life in prison, only to be justified as innocent, and there isn't much they can do because they can't give a man half of his life back. It's upsetting knowing this sort of thing occurred then, and still occurs now.

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The Holocaust is a perfect example of when this was repeated in history. The Nazis discriminated against Jewish people and killed them without a reasonable explanation. Many decades after World War II was over, relatives of the Jewish men and women in the Holocaust were compensated.

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@Mike
I agree with Mike when he said that the apologizes were given to the descendants of Puritans because Massachusetts was embarrassed about their past. Their ancestors had different beliefs than them and their accusations about some men and women being witches were crazy.

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@Grace
I think the Puritan people determined the punishment as an execution because most of them had an extreme bias. Those people thought they would be the god's servants after all.
I would definitely avoid the death from wrong accusation but also I think being killed might be the only option because the Puritans will try to kill me for god's will even I get freed.

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@Chase
The judgements to the victims of Salem were ridiculous because they had nothing done and innocent. However I think the apologies that were given to the victims do show that people in the community regreted of what they done. I believe these reflections became the emotional nutrients to America nowdays.

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@Hailey
I agree on your statement that 'life is more important than a damaged reputation'. Every human beings want to live their life with clean state. So do I. I think the hollywood ten or Holocaust were the examples of injustice. I will never understand how people who were victim felt about their unfair fate.

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@Alondra
I agree that the world nowadays repeat similar mistakes. About three centuries later, the Holocaust and Red Scarce happened and many innocent people were killed or jailed.
However, I do think that the citizenships among the communites around the world did advance compared to the past. Now, people know more, and know what to do. They are not like people who just follow the leader. They think and learn because they know what 'stupid' happened in the past. I do acknowledge that these stupid thing happens now as well but I think that these mistakes will eventually be reduced.

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I do not think that death was the right option when a Puritan was accused of being a witch because they would still be living even if they lived with a ruined reputation. Personally I would rather live a tarnished life because eventually people would forget about the past accusations. Back then everyone was concerned about what others thought about them so that is why they would rather die than be labelled a witch. In addition, it was survival of the fittest when it came to the witch hysteria. If someone accused you then you would “admit” to be a witch but accuse others in your community.

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@Christina
I agree on your opinion about the article. Nowadays, people in Massachussets or other states do not get killed by justing saying blaphemous words or having a different religion. People learned from what their ancestors did and they revise the culture or law by reflecting themselves from the case. I think the exonerations of the victims of Salme did help to shape today's America.

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I don't agree with the statement, "People learn from history." Due to the repetition of similar events occurring in today's world, I think that history just continues to repeat itself over and over in different forms.

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@Alondra I agree, the mistakes made in the Salem Witch Trials have been repeated in history numerous times, just with different cases. The Red Scare and the Holocaust both involved false accusations against innocent people. Despite it being an ongoing process, I think we're making progress. Sometimes people don't learn from their mistake the first time. It's a lesson that needs to be learned over and over again in order to be effective. Unfortunately, in this case, it's sad we have to go through the same situation, but it's somewhat necessary, in my opinion.

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@amaralca I agree, it seems like we don't learn from history. The same events keep happening in different forms. Perhaps it's due to human nature, that we keep making the same mistakes. We look at a specific event in history and think we won't repeat it, for example the Salem Witch Trials. Since witches are fake and aren't relevant in modern society, we don't have anything to worry about. Same thing with the Holocaust. We don't go to those extremes anymore, but prejudice and discrimination still exist, maybe in a less harsher form than back then. We've changed a lot since the Salem Witch Trials, but I think that element of prejudice and discrimination is still evident in modern day.

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Hailey, I agree with your statement about preserving your own life and ruining your reputation. If I ever was in a situation that involved both of these choices, death or a ruined reputation, I would choose my reputation. In the article, it mentioned how these women would die just to live up to their name. This is also seen in The Crucible when John dies just so that the Protor name doesn't get associated with witchcraft. I honestly could never do what those men and women did during the witch trails because I feel as though life is more important.

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@Rhianna I agree, no amount of money or compensation can ever amount to a human life, but that's all they can do. They can't rewrite the past or bring back the dead, but exonerating them was the best they could do. That, and learn from the mistake they made and not let it happen again in the future.

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I wholeheartedly agree with this statement. All throughout the world there are scenarios and instances that are occurring right now that are almost identical to events that have happened before. An example of this would be the video we watched about the witches in India. It's terrible that humanity can't learn from experience.

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I don't think it was worth it. I think life is more important than a damaged reputation. Everyone only gets one life, but a reputation can be fixed, or they could move away to start a clean slate. I would rather preserve my life than die on false accusations, even if it means being socially shunned. This has happened before in history. During the red scare numerous people were accused of being communist and taken to court. One example is the Hollywood ten. They were falsely accused of promoting communism. Another example is the Holocaust. Millions of Jewish people were falsely accused and killed due to discrimination.

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Yes, similar events to the crucible have happened numerous times throughout the course of history. As Alondra stated, the holocaust is an example among many. During WWII, Hitler was in charge of all of the deaths that occurred, similar to Abigail. In the witch trails, many women and men were accused of being witches, and thus being sentenced to death. During the Holocaust, over millions of people were killed due to discriminatory factors. In both instances, the people that were killed, were innocent.

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Honestly, I do think it was worth it. I understand that they waited a little too long to address it, but in the end I thought it was the right thing to do. If I learned that I was related to someone who lost their life during the witch trials, I would also try to get them exonerated. Also, the fact that this happened so recently, plays an important factor. It proves that we haven't forgotten our country's history and that although we may not be able to correct it, we can at least recognize it and do whatever we can to help it. Therefore, I think that it was worth getting those five women's names exonerated.

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I don't think it was worth it because the punishment for not admitting that you were a witch was death, while admitting that you were a witch, freed you from this penalty. Even if I wasn't a witch I would still admit that I was because life is more important than what people think about you. I would rather be looked down upon  by society and just isolate myself than be killed. This happens often with terrorists and spies. If a spy is captured, they are usually not killed if you they admit to being a spy for another country. The country that captured them then keeps them alive for ransom.

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In my opinion i feel that people from our country are not learning from their mistakes i feel as if history is just repeating itself. In a ongoing circle.

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It was not worth it because even though family's were brought back for apolagies you cannot bring back the innocent from the dead. Yes this has happened in other times in history, for example the holocaust many innocent children and family's died because of their hair color religion or race. which is wrong in many ways just like the salem witch trials.

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@Rhianna Suzansky
I agree that history cannot be gone to the past and change the outcome of some tragic moments.
But, I also think that the exoneration from the state to those who died by witchcraft means that people in that time felt something wrong about executions. And I think that is the way that people learn from their mistake and never do that again at future time.

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Although the apology happened really long time later after the executions. I believe that apology worth it. It just shows time has passed and people changed their mind and their citizenships. For instance, Germany in 1930s had a racist society where Adolf Hitler commanded to kill Jewish people. But now, Germany is showing the best examples of apology. Leaders from Germany would go to tombs of people who passed away by Nazi's terrible separation polices and bow their head. The history is unchangeable. But the humanity is changeable. That is the difference. People learn from history and I think that is the main point of the Salem case as well.

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@Rhianna Can you think of another time in history when things like this have happened?

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The fact that they were exonerated after they were hanged was not worth it. It's better to be safe than sorry, so now that they made this mistake of hanging those who were innocent, they can't fix it.

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This.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/02/us/massachusetts-clears-5-from-salem-witch-trials.html

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