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Athens was bEtter

Sparta had harah treatment to boys at the age of 7 and in Athens we had a right.. a choice to join the military or not. But in sparta it was required.

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Athens is waaaay better than Sparta because they were less cruel and their slave population isn't 20x the population of the citizens. Yes, Sparta had better armies but that is because they had children as young as the age of seven do harsh labor. Athens was also much wealthier than Sparta since Sparta didn't encourage trade

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. Athens was also much wealthier than Sparta since Sparta didn't

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Athens is better

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Athens is better, obviously. They had a democracy which means most people had a say on most situations. Also as much as Sparta says they are strong or whatever, Athens was more stronger and wiser than them because of the major battles they fought. They were wiser due to the fact they were taught a wide arrange of arts, sciences, and languages. I could go on and on but way too much homework...

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Athens is waaaay better than Sparta because they were less cruel and their slave population isn't 20x the population of the citizens. Yes, Sparta had better armies but that is because they had children as young as the age of seven do harsh labor. Athens was also much wealthier than Sparta since Sparta didn't encourage trade.

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is better idk why its just better :)
-Ximena and Arturo

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Sparta is clearly better, because they:

1. Gave women more rights, and respected them WAY more  than Athens ever did.

2. The government style(s) gave more  power to the people to make choices instead of Athens' oligarchy.

3. Even though Sparta was more strict when it came to military schooling, it paid off in the Persian and Peloponnesian Wars, and when they OVERCAME the Athenians when they started using the Delian League for their own purposes

There are WAY more reasons, but these are only a few.

THIS IS SPARTA!!!!

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Sparta bum is right
I am2018
You only live once

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They need two kings plus2018people

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After they have become stronger they return to sparta 

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After they have become stronger they return to sparta 

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SPARTA also tortured kids from the day they were born and when they tured 7 they went to training and the people that trained 7 year olds beat them with sticks until they were 12 then they got kicked out of sparta to learn to live on there own 

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SPARTA also tortured kids from the day they were born and when they tured 7 they went to training and the people that trained 7 year olds beat them with sticks until they were 12 then they got kicked out of sparta to learn to live on there own 

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In my opinion (And 17 other people's on this page) Athen is way better than Sparta. This page gave me confidence because in my class we are doing a group project on Greece and Rome and one of my classmates says that Sparta is better. WHATEVER BUDDY! Also there are only like seven or so people that said Sparta! ATHENS RULES GUYS!!!!
W. Anononymus
P.S - Awsome page long note over there Athens. No doubt.

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sparta is way better because they are the most feard worriors ever

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sparta is way better because they are the most feard worriors ever

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sparta is soooooooooo cooool compared to stupid Athens

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sparta is soooooooooo cooool compared to stupid Athens

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I THINK THE GUY WHO DID ATHENS. NO DOUBT. HE IS RIGHT

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I THINK THE GUY WHO DID ATHENS. NO DOUBT. HE IS RIGHT

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I'm impressed by the page long Sparta paragraph and the long athens paragraph... Impressive, guys!!!

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Athens is better, obviously. They had a democracy which means most people had a say on most situations. Also as much as Sparta says they are strong or whatever, Athens was more stronger and wiser than them because of the major battles they fought. They were wiser due to the fact they were taught a wide arrange of arts, sciences, and languages. I could go on and on but way too much homework...
(Sorry if I made any mistakes btw :P)

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OK, this should be obvious, but we have this dude typing an entire paragraph or 3 about why Sparta is better. Haven't read all of it, but Sparta's government being better is just completely absurd for anyone to think. In Sparta's government, only a set few Spartans had an actually mattering opinion in the decisions made, while in Athens, being a democracy, everyone got some form of say. Wives could most likely sway their husband's decision some times, due to all of this. On to army. You may think that Sparta's army is better due to being the ones who "invented the phalanx formation," which I won't I won't deny they did, but with the husbands gone for 12 years as opposed to 2 in Athens. I worry about problems that may occur in the homes. If a child in Sparta got horribly sick, odds are it would take a while for the father to find out. However, In Athens, due to serving only 2 years, it would take a lot less time odds are. Welp, I would continue, but I need to do a project, and it was my first time ever seeing this website.

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Sparta is far better. First, look at the key qualities of a civilization; military, government, technology, social structure, and arts and writing. I won’t discuss religion as both city-states had the same beliefs. Almost no one argues Athens (or any city state) had better military than Sparta. Sparta had the best land military, invented the phalanx formation, and even beat Athens in a naval battle, when Athens best military outlet is their navy. Sparta easily wins this category. Sparta 1, Athens 0. Secondly, Sparta's government is far superior. Athens' government was riddled with corruption. People were bribed and blackmailed all the time. Then we look to Sparta. There government actually worked and was efficient. It kept Sparta strong and practical for much longer than Sparta. Sparta 2, Athens 0. Next, consider technology. Sparta had better weaponry, better training techniques, and invented the phalanx, which is a type of technology. Sparta 3, Athens 0. Finally, let us think about equality. Did you know women in Athens had almost 0 rights, even when they made up much of the population? And did you know helots were treated much better than Athenian slaves, who were often worked to the death in silver mines? In Sparta, girls were formally educated, unlike in Athens. And maybe you hold on to the myth that kids in Athens who weren't healthy were killed? The only evidence for that came from an anti-Sparta person from Athens. There is even evidence disproving this theory. Historians have proved the myth fake when they excavated an area that was supposed to have the dead babies. The only bones there were from adult prisoners who had been executed. Sparta 4, Athens 0. Finally, consider arts and writing. The common assumption that Sparta didn’t have arts and writing is entirely untrue. Sparta was renowned for its sculptors, poets, musicians, and dancers. And I could go on and on, but I want to keep this brief. After looking at all this evidence, what do you have? Nothing! And even if you did, it wouldn't be enough to offset all of Sparta's achievements. Sparta is obviously far, far superior to Athens.

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Athens is better because they have a better education system :)

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athens because of laws and limited democarces also there age u can start is an options davon

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athens because of laws and limited democarces also there age u can start is an options davon

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because of there laws the age u can start is fare also u u can

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i thing athens is better because of there laws the age u start at is a fare age (

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I think Athens is better because their government is more controlled by having a limited democracy. Also I like that Athens students didn't focus on fighting all the time.

Joya Shelton

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Brandi-                                                                       I think Athens are better because they aren't as cruel as Sparta and they don't beat and hit the kids and force them not to cry.

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Brandi-                                                                       I think Athens are better because they aren't as cruel as Sparta and they don't beat and hit the kids and force them not to cry.

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Beacause they had a limited democracy and A council of 400 took care of Day to Day problems

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I think Athens is a better city state because it's very nice and calm and it had a really good government because they had better laws also they had lower taxes!   -Abigail

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I think Athens is a better city state because it's very nice and calm and it had a really good government because they had better laws also they had lower taxes!   -Abigail

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Athens is better because it is peaceful they are peaceful because people don't fight and have a strong government and care about education and women have some rights TRISTON

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I think the Athens  are a better city state because its less strict and your not taken from your family at age of seven,

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I think the Athens  are a better city state because its less strict and your not taken from your family at age of seven,

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I think SPARTA is better because there is a better army protection and trade system than Athens and it also has the best warriors because they all started war at age 7. is this long enough-Luke

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Athens because athens is more calmer and peaceful and they dont have harsh or strict rules for example in school they had the boys sleep on the ground even if it was coldfor them.

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I think that Sparta is the better city-state, because they have a better army. Which is better when they are in war but have a poor government. Sparta would be hard to destroy but has a poor goverment to controll people with

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I think Athens is better because they put education first. They also have a lot more freedom than Sparta.- Katelyn

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I think that Athens is the better city-state because, they don't just fight all of the time. And they have better youth and education. They're government is way more positive, and they have a limited democracy. So, people get to vote.~~ Isaiah Crawford

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I think that Athens is the better city-state because, they don't just fight all of the time. And they have better youth and education. They're government is way more positive, and they have a limited democracy. So, people get to vote.~~ Isaiah Crawford

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Athens is better because people had better use for their time witch means more people can sleep in.   Athens had the worlds best navy.  Athens had better things than just military

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Athens is better because people had better use for their time witch means more people can sleep in.   Athens had the worlds best navy.  Athens had better things than just military

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RYAN RYA

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I think athens is a better city state because its more 

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I think athens is a better city state because its more 

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its more complex at running there city and keeping the peace there

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I think that Athens is better because Gov't was less strict and Education was better.