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Gula's response to Chodor's response to everyone

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Gula's response to Chodor's response to everyone

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Ah koala steak, what a fine delicacy.

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Let's just stop this madness and enjoy this Koala steak

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Gula's response to Chodor's response to Gula's response to Chodor's response to Max's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Chloe's response

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Gula's response to Chodor's response to Gula's response to Chodor's response to Max's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Chloe's response

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Lemonadesteak

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Chodor's response to Gula's response to Chodor's response to Max's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Chloe's response

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Chodor's response to Gula's response to Chodor's response to Max's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Chloe's response

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Cowsteak... oh wait that's just beef

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Gula's response to Chodor's response to Max's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Chloe's response

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Gula's response to Chodor's response to Max's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Chloe's response

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Kangaroosteak is actually very good.

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Chodor's response to Max's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Chloe's response

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Chodor's response to Max's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Chloe's response

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Chickensteak

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Max's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Chloe's response

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Max's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Chloe's response

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yo

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Gula's response to Noah's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Chloe's response 

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Gula's response to Noah's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Chloe's response 

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Gang gang

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Chodor's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Chloe's response

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Chodor's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Chloe's response

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I disagree- I think Lord Henry is manipulative because he likes dominating and playing around with others that are moldable such as Dorian

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NOAH's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Chloe 1

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NOAH's response to Gula's response to Noah's response to Chloe 1

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Wordd dawg, how bout thurs morning

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Dorian only thinks he loves Sibyll for her theater characters so Lord Henry is trying to attempt for Dorian to realize that

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being a transcendentalist doesn't sound bad to me

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Isn't it good that Lord Henry is trying to convince Dorian that it's not his fault for her death? Because he could've spent his entire life feeling horrible instead of trying to move on. But Lord Henry is trying to help him with moving on and feeling better

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Gula's response to Noah's response to Chloe's response 

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Gula's response to Noah's response to Chloe's response 

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As a matter of fact, I believe the same thing. TBH you're kinda nice and we should hang out.

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Chodor's response to Kessler Responding to Max 1

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Chodor's response to Kessler Responding to Max 1

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Maybe Dorian fell in love because she was beautiful or he liked her characters that she portrays but her her directly-He's richer, but not really better than her

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good to treat woman like this because according to Henry woman love cruelty

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how?

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Lord Henry influences Dorian to expect more out of himself. This is what he is doing by dumping Sibyl, she is not good enough for him.

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I think it is a good think to be curious and want to experience new things

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This is good because it can make Dorian find things in life he never would have found

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Lord Henry trying to help Dorian by getting him over it is what he needs. This could help Dorian

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Dorian might not have been able to figure out himself on his own and more often than not people do have help doing that. Lord Henry helps him find the things he might not have been able to do on his own.

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Lord Henry offers to take him to dinner and the theater to get his mind off of Sibyll so Dorian doesn't spend his time depressed. If he is occupied then he will slowly forget about Sibyll

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Isn't knowledge good and that is what Henry is is pushing Dorian to do, to obtain more knowledge.

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I think it is a positive to get things off is just and no longer worry about Sibyl

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Ok, Witty. Explain instead of just making arbitrary statements.

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Being moldable is not necessarily bad-Everyone is molded by their teachers/ mentors and stuff like that

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Good that he is getting his mind off death so it does not consume him

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Henry realizes what is wrong with him and Sibyl. Henry is trying to keep Dorian away a little bit because he knows that Dorian does not love her. Henry is helping Dorian

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Isn't that a way to cope with loss is to forget about it.

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Dorian is showing rage because he doesn't want Basil to see the things he's recognized about himself. His rage could also be apart of something he's never realized he's had. So he could be becoming the person he actually is and has just hidden.

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This could be a positive because avoiding Lord Henry's negative influences would benefit Dorian

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Sometimes it is better, especially in the face of death to restrain from showing many emotions, and just because you are not showing emotions on the outside, does not mean you cannot be feeling them on the inside

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Trying to get over Sibyll is the best thing to do because she's dead

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Isn't it good that Dorian has someone to explain what he doesn't know and to guide him. Nothing is wrong with sharing a opinion, maybe just Dorian's reaction to Lord Henry's opinion might not be ideal.

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I think this can be positive because there was no reason Dorian should have loved that Sibyl Vane. He was so much better than her and fell in love wayyyyyyyyy toooooooo early

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Lord Henry helps Dorian understand himself. Could be good, he finds out more things about himself fro Henry that he wouldn't find without him

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But what a lack of taste she showed! (67) Explains to Dorian that Sibyl was a waste of time

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Maybe it is good to get over death relatively quickly and move on with your life-You cannot be consumed by death

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Dorian now has rage for the first time that Basil has seen-He is so scared that people will see that the painting of him has changed that he has changed to protect it-How ironic
"Let me see it." And Hallward walked towards the corner of the room.

A cry of terror broke from Dorian Gray's lips, and he rushed between the painter and the screen. "Basil," he said, looking very pale, "you must not look at it. I don't wish you to."

"Not look at my own work! You are not serious. Why shouldn't I look at it?" exclaimed Hallward, laughing.

"If you try to look at it, Basil, on my word of honour I will never speak to you again as long as I live. I am quite serious. I don't offer any explanation, and you are not to ask for any. But, remember, if you touch this screen, everything is over between us."

Hallward was thunderstruck. He looked at Dorian Gray in absolute amazement. He had never seen him like this before. The lad was actually pallid with rage. His hands were clenched, and the pupils of his eyes were like disks of blue fire. He was trembling all over."

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"Talking to him was like playing upon an exquisite violin. He answered to every touch and thrill of the bow.... There was something terribly enthralling in the exercise of influence. No other activity was like it. To project one's soul into some gracious form, and let it tarry there for a moment; to hear one's own intellectual views echoed back to one with all the added music of passion and youth; to convey one's temperament into another as though it were a subtle fluid or a strange perfume: there was a real joy in that—perhaps the most satisfying joy left to us in an age so limited and vulgar as our own, an age grossly carnal in its pleasures, and grossly common in its aims...."
Lord Henry plays with Dorians mind and he knows it. Dorian does not do much about it and Lord Henry enjoys doing it.

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"He would not see Lord Henry any more—would not, at any rate, listen to those subtle poisonous theories that in Basil Hallward's garden had first stirred within him the passion for impossible things." (61). Lord Henry influences Dorian to become to ambitious for his own good. Dorian now wants things that will cause him to do bad, such as a lasting youth or a somebody that is better than Sibyl for a wife.

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Dorian would seek to dominate Basil just like how Lord Henry seeks to dominate Dorian
"Yes; he would try to be to Dorian Gray what, without knowing it, the lad was to the painter who had fashioned the wonderful portrait. He would seek to dominate him—had already, indeed, half done so. He would make that wonderful spirit his own."(25)

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Dorian literally gets explained to himself. You're are supposed to do that stuff on your own

“After some time Dorian Gray looked up. ‘You have explained me to myself, Harry,’ he murmured with something of a sigh of relief” (68).

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Lord Henry uses Dorian's ability to be molded for entertainment. “Talking to him[Dorian] was like playing upon an exquisite violin. He answered to every touch and thrill of the bow.... There was something terribly enthralling in the exercise of influence” (25).

--> Is this a trait we see IN DORIAN? Or do we only see it in Lord Henry? (Ms. Cain)

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The painter felt strangely moved. The lad was infinitely dear to him, and his personality had been the great turning point in his art. He could not bear the idea of reproaching him any more. After all, his indifference was probably merely a mood that would pass away. There was so much in him that was good, so much in him that was noble.

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Dorian has lost his innocence and his emotions
It is only shallow people who require years to get rid of an emotion. A man who is master of himself can end a sorrow as easily as he can invent a pleasure. I don't want to be at the mercy of my emotions. I want to use them, to enjoy them, and to dominate them."

"Dorian, this is horrible! Something has changed you completely. You look exactly the same wonderful boy who, day after day, used to come down to my studio to sit for his picture. But you were simple, natural, and affectionate then. You were the most unspoiled creature in the whole world. Now, I don't know what has come over you. You talk as if you had no heart, no pity in you. It is all Harry's influence. I see that."

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Lord Henry has influenced Dorian to go out and visit the world "with a wild desire to know everything about life."(32)

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“...and certainly Dorian Gray was a subject made to his hand, and seemed to promise rich and fruitful results. His sudden mad love for Sibyl Vane was a psychological phenomenon of no small interest. There was no doubt that curiosity had much to do with it, curiosity and the desire for new experiences...” (39)

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“...and certainly Dorian Gray was a subject made to his hand, and seemed to promise rich and fruitful results. His sudden mad love for Sibyl Vane was a psychological phenomenon of no small interest. There was no doubt that curiosity had much to do with it, curiosity and the desire for new experiences...” (39)

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Lord henry was the person that influenced Dorian to get out and find new experiences
Kessler 2

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Dorian, you mustn't let this thing get on your nerves. You must come and dine with me, and afterwards we will look in at the opera. It is a Patti night, and everybody will be there. You can come to my sister's box. She has got some smart women with her’" (66).

Lord Henry shifts Dorians focus away. His fiancee just died and he should be taking care of that, not going to a show withLord Henry

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"I should have thought she was almost younger than that. She looked such a child, and seemed to know so little about acting. Dorian, you mustn't let this thing get on your nerves. You must come and dine with me, and afterwards we will look in at the opera." (65) Lord Henry desensitizes Dorian. He tries to convince Dorian that he wasn't at fault for her death and that it was for the better.

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He has become cold-hearted. He shows no emotion anymore.
"Dorian, this is horrible! Something has changed you completely. You look exactly the same wonderful boy who, day after day, used to come down to my studio to sit for his picture. But you were simple, natural, and affectionate then. You were the most unspoiled creature in the whole world. Now, I don't know what has come over you. You talk as if you had no heart, no pity in you. It is all Harry's influence. I see that" (71-72).

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Sexist
"'My dear boy, no woman is a genius. Women are a decorative sex. They never have anything to say, but they say it charmingly. Women represent the triumph of matter over mind, just as men represent the triumph of mind over morals.'" (32)
"Then he leaped up and went to the door. 'Yes,' he cried, "you have killed my love. You used to stir my imagination. Now you don't even stir my curiosity. You simply produce no effect. I loved you because you were marvelous, because you had genius and intellect, because you realized the dreams of great poets and gave shape and substance to the shadows of art. You have thrown it all away.'" (58)
Lord Henry told Dorian that women are no more than people who say things charmingly and never have any intelligence to them. Which at first Dorian doesn't believe. But as soon as Sibyl has something even the slightest bit intelligent to say, Dorian becomes angry with her and says she's wrong and that she has lost her genius.

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"She will never come to life again now," muttered the lad, burying his face in his hands.

"No, she will never come to life. She has played her last part. (67)

Lord Henry toys with the feelings of Dorian by dismissing the reality of the situation.

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Lord Henry convinces Dorian to not waste his time grieving for Sibyll.
"’You[Lord Henry] have explained me to myself, Harry...I felt all that you have said, but somehow I was afraid of it, and I could not express it to myself’" (68).

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We keep saying that Lord Henry has had a bad influence on Dorian. How so? What traits do we see now that we didn't see before / what traits do we think Lord Henry gave to Dorian?

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We keep saying that Lord Henry has had a bad influence on Dorian. How so? What traits do we see now that we didn't see before / what traits do we think Lord Henry gave to Dorian?

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Write your answer here. Support it with evidence.