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The transition from high school to college writing styles is a huge leap as everything taught in highschool is almost completely polar opposite to what is expected in college. High school educators provide structured outlines and rules yet encourage creative and detailed vocabulary in order to intrigue the audience. On the other hand, college professors discourage creative vocabulary yet allow freedom of ideas and writing structure in order to intrigue the audience with their ideas merely more than just their large vocabulary range.

Hearing other students’ advice is extremely helpful as I did not know about the AATC. Also, I related to one of the students who recommended writing assignments and their due dates down in a planner as I have been doing this too since high school.

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Transition from High School to College Writing

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Transition from High School to College Writing

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In the reading, it discusses about the disconnect between high school and college writing. In high school, there are "rules" or sets of expectations that students typically maintain and follow when writing. Some of these limit or restrict words and skills being used that simply come across as "boring" or "common" because they are so repetitively used. Students have integrated this idea into their minds as they transition into college, but the difference is shown in the article when it was presented that those commonly used words are often favored in college writing. It was shown that students tend to direct their focus towards using those skills they've taken from high school rather than evaluating and make meaning of the text. As I was reading, I could relate to what was discussed in the article. Writing and reading were never my strongest area of skill as I tend to worry or overwhelm myself with trying to sound "professional" and "smart." I would try to model off of what was typically being used and tried approaching a writing style that would have been deemed as "unique" or "strong." It actually made it harder for me to write and form my own ideas because I was constantly thinking of a writing style that didn't fit me. I could see that simply sticking with what was known as common tends to allow me to write more freely. Additionally, one the advice from former UWP7 students were to engage and not to be afraid of asking help! I hope their suggestions will allow me to make the most out of this class.

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The Transition From High School to College Writing (IDK why my first post got deleted)

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The Transition From High School to College Writing (IDK why my first post got deleted)

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I connected greatly with the article’s points because I have gone through elementary and secondary school experiencing the catalysts for the “disconnect” that is evident from secondary writing to college writing. For example, I vividly remember being told by numerous teachers that essays should be ‘“five paragraphs long, and should never contain “I,” “you,” or “we”’ (Warner 1). Since hearing this in middle school and beyond, I have always kept this “rule” in the back of my head and utilized it when writing. Further, the “‘said is dead’” ideology was frequently instilled in me during my previous english classes (Warner 2). The ruling out of certain words makes it easy for students like me to continue this practice in college, when in reality doing so does more harm than good. The “teacher approval” aspect of writing, I feel, is a very pertinent topic that isn’t mentioned much. I remember using “fancy” words that didn’t contribute much to the substance of my writing and were just used for the purpose of impressing my teacher. Another thing that I noted was that in “The Transition from High School to University” article, I have done more than half the high school rules as opposed to the university expectations. However, after reading the various pieces of advice from former students, I am not too worried about the transition. I am often more introverted and work alone but I now know that reaching out to students and/or professors, making connections, and being a bit more outgoing will help me not only in this class, but in college and beyond.

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In high school, they teach you what they consider to be formal writing by following these set of rules; However, in college you learn that sometimes simple is better. Using some simple terms might be better than having to exaggerate your words to make your writing sound more exquisite. As for the perspectives from the former students, I learn that you need to rely on yourself to know when work should be done. High school teachers would normally remind you when assignments are due to make sure we turn it in, but in college you have to keep track of the due dates yourself. The former students mentioned that involving yourself in class discussions and group work is one of the biggest things you can do. It was always emphasized in my English classes. There would be a 'fish bowl' at the end of every novel/article we read, where everyone would have to participate and give their thoughts and ideas for the class to comment on. It would help with being able to form new ideas and how to analyze things more which made class discussions enjoyable.

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Going from high-school writing to university level writing

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Going from high-school writing to university level writing

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Transitioning from high school writing to university-level writing will be difficult due to the influence of teachers on the students. Teachers will often provide students with guidelines and specific expectations that they have to follow in order to create a good essay. However, even though these rules allow students to create satisfactory essays, the rules still limit the level of freedom that students have when it comes to writing. University-level writing encourages students to think critically about how they are writing. Rather than passively following a set of rules, students should proactively engage in the way they write. In my experience, my teachers would usually provide a structure that our essay had to follow to earn full marks. I believe this restricted my ability to communicate specific ideas in any style I wanted. I think that having more freedom when it comes to writing will allow the writer to express their ideas more coherently.

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Transitioning from High School to College Writing

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Transitioning from High School to College Writing

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Just like transitioning from middle school to high school, the transition to high school to college is a big change. Although every institution is supposed to prepare a student to go to the next level, sometimes adjustment is hard. I read in the article that transitioning into a college institution, the writing processes and standards differ from the ones taught consistently in lower education. For example, in high school, one of the articles I read told of the “rule” of not using specific words that lack meaning and are repetitively used in the writing world. However, college institutions promote no barriers in writing and criticize the “rules of writing” taught in lower education. It will be difficult for college students to unlearn the constricting rules of writing that are ingrained in their brains, however, the perspectives of former UWP7 students provide great advice. They recommend utilizing the resources like the ATTC to revise your writing and the teacher’s office hours. Feelings of shyness that resulted in former students not interacting with the teachers or other classmates are relatable, however, their advice to do the opposite is what I hope to do. Engaging with other classmates and the workshops will allow me to make the most of this class which is exciting.

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Transition from a  high school writer to a college writer

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Transition from a  high school writer to a college writer

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After reading the message left by the past student of this course, I think the previous UWP7Y student's perspective on this course and their advice is basically reminding us of the necessity of reading and understanding the rubric. I have read most of the posts made by past course students. They thought reading and perusall are seriously important that almost half of the posts relate to them. Some thought that connection with classmates is also important to maintain to better communicate and receive better reply speed than emailing the professor when come to questions about courses and homework. I think it relates to my academic writing because I am not a good writer but I am strongly in love with analyzing articles and historical content during high school. I strongly agree with the idea of reading the rubric ahead as well as reading it itself. I also like the fact that they suggest we ask for help when it is needed because of how short the quarter is. Asking for help from professors or classmates can always be the most efficient way of improving the mistake in the article. transition to college mean more responsibility into taking care of their own writing as well as professor providing more freedom for you to control.  they are open to more resource access and more change of expression. but they need to be improving from using poor academic language but instead they need to work with the more professional tone in their writing.

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Transitioning form High school to College Writing

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Transitioning form High school to College Writing

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I noticed that many of the former students emphasized the importance of connecting with fellow classmates. I find it very helpful that they suggested paying close attention to the readings because the content is relevant towards the class even after moving on to new readings. In high school, I didn't feel like I had to read everything very thoroughly because we would do close readings in class and from discussion, you could piece together the main concepts without even understanding the text beforehand. Also, the texts weren't really relevant after our writing assignments on them. However, I am familiar with the former students' emphasis on staying organized by completing all the assignments in a timely fashion, rather than cramming everything into the last minute. In my high school experience, it was definitely helpful to connect with other students in understanding texts and finding new ideas on what to write about, or just learning new interpretations of the text.

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Transitions- Writing in High School/Writing in College

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Transitions- Writing in High School/Writing in College

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The transition from high school to college level writing would be nervous for most of us in the beginning. Because college students are given a lot more freedom to structure and write their essay. Without all the rules that the high school teacher taught us to follow, college freshmen often feel confused and don’t know where to start from. I felt the same when I was first introduced to high school level academic writing. I was very confused about the MLA format, citation and paragraph structure. I have a difficult time understanding and practicing how to write a good thesis statement. I do agree with Robert C. March’s comment in the article, “you must know the rules to break them.” My first language isn’t English. The academic writing opportunities offered in high school have a lot of restrictions, but it has taught me to write in another writing style and I learned a lot of formal vocabulary through that. I’m ready and am looking forward to writing more critical and creative essays in college. It would be hard for me,  but I believe that I can make it if I put in the effort. Just like how I participate and engage actively in my high school’s class actively, I would do the same for college. The advice given from former UWP7 students is really helpful. After knowing the resource offered by college, I was motivated and felt less stressed about this class.

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The Transition from High School to College Writing

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The Transition from High School to College Writing

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To John Warner, the transition from high school to college in terms of writing is inefficient. There is a lack of a connection by which students can comfortably apply and build off of what was taught to them in high school. This mainly has to do with the idea of "rules". He draws emphasis on the belief that there are no rules and that we as students have been conditioned to follow a nonexistent set that is to be used in every exercise. Warner expresses that, in fact, each case requires its own unique steps depending on the "audience, genre, and purpose/occasion". I appreciate his way of thinking. I feel like having had this mindset in high school would have better opened up my understanding of the possibilities and directions in which I could push my writing. I also appreciate that the UWP alumni's advice highly suggests that growth is always necessary and welcome. This certainly makes me feel better about the transition. With Warner and the alumni's perspectives, I feel more comfortable with being able to improve. I had always feared that there was only so much my writing skills would be able to grow due to the "rules" that had been placed early on. I now understand that there is still much to uncover with new methods and ways of critical thinking.

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I feel that the change from high school to college will be quite big. Most of what is said in the article is true. I did have to write five paragraphs: an introduction, three body paragraphs stating my arguments, and then ending it with a conclusion. Reading this article opened my mind to a less structured writing style that the author adopted for this essay. However, I have to disagree with some of the points made by the author, such as how the banning of the word “said” in middle and high school is a negative thing. In middle and high school, we focused on creative writing, therefore not using the word “said” would be highly beneficial in evoking certain reactions in readers. I also have to disagree with the second document, where it said that in high school, we should never address counter arguments. I was, in fact, encouraged to present counter arguments in my high school essays.

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Transitioning from a high school writer to college writing

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Transitioning from a high school writer to college writing

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Both readings had the same idea in which High school did not prepare students to succeed in college expected writing. High schools made many rules and templates for students to follow when writing in college is completely different from the writing style in high school. The first reading mentioned rules such as formal writing and boring vocabulary that was taught to highs school students, these examples of the rules taught by high schools was exactly how my experience was. The part about having a set list of words that were deemed "not allowed" or "too bland" was very truthful to my personal experience of learning how to make my writing more interesting. I also fully agree with the expressed perspectives as my experience was similar. Most of my writing in high school had to meet specific requirements and was very stifling as I had to cram my ideas into 5 paragraphs consisting of 7 sentences. I knew that college writing would be quite different from what I was taught but many things in the second reading surprised me in the column of university expectations.

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Transitioning from High School to College Writing

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I feel that many students will have a hard time adjusting to the style of writing used in university courses because it has been ingrained into our brains for the last four years. College writing offers much more freedom compared to high school, which is why many students may feel awkward when branching out from what they were taught. One of the pieces of advice from UWP7 alumni that stuck with me was that the course is made for our personal growth. In high school, we had to keep up with the rest of the class, otherwise, we would get bad grades. We rarely collaborated with other students for peer review/grading, which is stated in the articles, so it was difficult to gain new insights on the essay topic. On top of that, everyone was given a rubric from every new English teacher they had. It was hard to develop our own writing style that we would stick with for every essay. It's going to be a challenge transitioning from old rules to new ones, but it will prepare us for the real world and teach us how to express ourselves in a way that others can fully understand.

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Transitioning from High School to College Writing

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Transitioning from High School to College Writing

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I feel like the transition from high school to college is incredibly challenging. In high school, rules are enforced and formulas are followed. If these formulas are not followed, it was automatically deemed a horrible piece of creative writing. I really enjoy the fact that there is a lot more freedom to write whatever you feel in college. The ideas presented in the article relate to me as I was taught not to use "certain words" that "are dead". The word "said" was regarded as poor academic language and not to be used. However, I believe that all words could be used in an academic writing if it's in a proper setting. Overall, the perspectives of former UWP7 students are really helpful in the advice they give. A lot of them said that staying on top of deadlines in schedules is really important in a writing class. In high school, first drafts of writing weren't really taken into consideration and it was mostly graded on the final product. But, I believe that in college, it would be beneficial to create multiple drafts in order to present the best of your writing.

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Transitioning from high school writing to college writing

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I noticed that many of the former students emphasized the importance of connecting with fellow classmates. I find it very helpful that they suggested paying close attention to the readings because the content is relevant towards the class even after moving on to new readings. In high school, I didn't feel like I had to read everything very thoroughly because we would do close readings in class and from discussion, you could piece together the main concepts without even understanding the text beforehand. Also, the texts weren't really relevant after our writing assignments on them. However, I am familiar with the former students' emphasis on staying organized by completing all the assignments in a timely fashion, rather than cramming everything into the last minute. In my high school experience, it was definitely helpful to connect with other students in understanding texts and finding new ideas on what to write about, or just learning new interpretations of the text.

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I connected greatly with the article’s points because I have gone through elementary and secondary school experiencing the catalysts for the “disconnect” that is evident from secondary writing to college writing. For example, I vividly remember being told by numerous teachers that essays should be ‘“five paragraphs long, and should never contain “I,” “you,” or “we”’ (Warner 1). Since hearing this in middle school and beyond, I have always kept this “rule” in the back of my head and utilized it when writing. Further, the “‘said is dead’” ideology was frequently instilled in me during my previous english classes (Warner 2). The ruling out of certain words makes it easy for students like me to continue this practice in college, when in reality doing so does more harm than good. The “teacher approval” aspect of writing, I feel, is a very pertinent topic that isn’t mentioned much. I remember using “fancy” words that didn’t contribute much to the substance of my writing and were just used for the purpose of impressing my teacher. Another thing that I noted was that in “The Transition from High School to University” article, I have done more than half the high school rules as opposed to the university expectations. However, after reading the various pieces of advice from former students, I am not too worried about the transition. I am often more introverted and work alone but I now know that reaching out to students and/or professors, making connections, and being a bit more outgoing will help me not only in this class, but in college and beyond.

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Transitioning from High School to College

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Transitioning from High School to College

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In the reading Academic Writing in College by John Warner, they discuss that the most noticeable transition from high school to college is that students do not exactly need to follow a set of rules for writing. In high school students were not allowed the use of some words such as I, me, you. Warner discusses that writing is actually about understanding the rhetorical situation in which you are writing about and then make a set of guidelines to follow so that your writing is appropriate and understandable. In addition, to better your writing, former UMP7 students say to take paper reviews seriously and to get help reviewing your papers from AATC. They also recommend communicating with peers and professor to maintain strong relationships. I have always taken peer reviews seriously whenever they were given to me, or I had to peer review other people's work. As for what was emphasized throughout my school years, it was to assess the rhetorical situations that I was writing about before starting my writing. There may have been instances where the use of first-person writing was not at all appropriate due to the fact that it was an academic research paper I may have been writing about. So, I am quite used to the system John Warner talked about.

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In the first article it seemed as if high school english writing classes were preparing us for college level assignments, or so the teachers thought. High school teachers seem like there is a writing stereotype/rubric that needs to be followed in order to do well in college english. There are words that are seen as forbidden if used. I believed and have personally tried to use another word in order to resist myself from what many may call "basic" vocabulary. I've done so that I've had to completely change what I was writing or even misused the word because I didn't understand the entirety of it. I like that the teacher states that everyone is a writer whether what level writing they may be at because no one's writing should be thought as less than. After reading both articles I've learned that what we learned about college writing in high school does not compare to what it's actually like, plus I think it differs from personal experience.

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Transition from high school to college writing 

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The reading emphasized the idea that students are taught about certain "rules" throughout their schooling, which restrict their writing capabilities and lead them to focus more on appearing "smart" rather than focusing on what matters more (like content and appealing to their audience). Many of the former UWP7 students mentioned that staying on top of your work and utilizing all given resources would be extremely beneficial. They also advised that students attend all of their workshops and collaborate as much as possible to create community and relationships with others in the same class. The article did not necessarily emphasize the importance, or therefore the lack, of building relationships with others and asking others for help when you need it in the classroom. This could be because students are molded to focus on different things, however I know that personally the help of my peers (whether in the form of academic or moral support) has taken me further than I expected on various occasions. With that being said, I'm grateful to have been able to receive such good advice from former students and i'm super excited about getting started this quarter :).

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The Transition From High School Writing to College Level Writing.

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The Transition From High School Writing to College Level Writing.

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When transitioning from high school to college, I realized the focus was on meeting the requirement of writing five paragraphs essay, each paragraph being 5 -7 sentences becoming less important. Although they are still important, college is more focused on how you present your writing or the formatting. The essays in college need to be more precise and not redundant sentences that lead the reader in a circle. To be honest with myself, I'm also a culprit who wrote redundant sentences during high school. So with the college requirement, I prefer it over the high school requirement. The essay requirements are very dependent on my resources and my understanding. Sometimes I don't have enough resources to write a 6-7 sentence paragraph. As a freshman, I share the similar feeling that the former UWP 7 students had. I am nervous about taking a college writing & reading class. I also feel intimidated and eager to improve my writing with the encouragement given.

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Transitioning from a high school writer to a college writer 

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Many first-year students transition into college with many of their old writing habits from high school that helped them have a well-organized structure during their time period in high school. However, transitioning into college is a restart button for the students when they start to write in college due to the fact that they are allowed to expand their writing by having much more freedom. With college writing, students have fewer restrictions. They are given the opportunity to express themselves more openly which is something some of the students who have taken the UWP 7Y class have suggested that the writing provided in the course is similar, due to the class giving students the freedom to write in their own way of style with some restrictions. With my experience in writing, I have always been given a specific structure to follow so with this class, I’m excited to have freedom.

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