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Could the discussion have taken place as Lizhi mentioned about her mother remarrying Uncle Jeremiah and how Lizhi would be sent away if they were to get married?

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When did Ah Guan realise that Mona had a part to play in  the drifting of their family

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Ah Guan only found out that Aunt Mona had a role to play in the breakdown of his and Michael (his son)'s relationship.

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Aqil suggested that when Ah Guan heard from his granddaughter how she hates the grandfather that became the turning point for  Ah Guan to ponder about the strained relationship.

Shirley added that as Asian parents tend to give independence but are still protective and as such as much as he is pondering over the way events has unfolded he may not be thinking of whether it is a right or wrong choice.

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Ah Guan is not expecting Lizhi to understand what he was saying, it was more of an outlet as he was outwardly reflecting.

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Idea shared - what made Ah Guan ponder that way

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Idea shared - what made Ah Guan ponder that way

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Prompt - why did ah guan perceive himself to  be 'strangling' Michael's freedom
Reader - Ah guan expressed a sense of regret for 'clipping Michael's wings'

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Things could have been different if he Ah Guan had thought about his self-reflection earlier, before his son passed away.

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He wanted the best for Michael but at the same time, he wanted to hold him back.

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He wanted the best for Michael but at the same time, he wanted to hold him back.

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Ah Guan was thinking aloud the lesson he had learnt from his strained relationship with his son; not so much communicating to Lizhi how she should or should not be.

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Lizhi's thoughts about her grandfather not liking her could have been the turning point for him as he could have realized that what he had done may not have been the best decision.

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There is a tone of regret however Ah Guan is also self-reflecting. He realises his actions may not be the best for his son.

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Think Ah Guan seems to be in his self thought , feeling ambivalent about letting Michael go. He wanted to protect yet he had instead been unable to do so.

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Could the discussion have taken place just to pass time?

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Turning point could possibly be when Li Zhi said that she hated her grandfather

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Just having small talks, using the rock as an excuse

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Partially, he regretted but he knew as a parent, he needed to give his son space.

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Death of Michael was a turning point to reflect on his attitude towards his relationship to his family.

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Conflicting emotions as a parent (Ah Guan) to let son have his freedom but also a part of him that would like Michael to be close.

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Speaker 1 - Not sure if its the turning point for Ah Guan.
Speaker 2 - There is a sense of regret in Ah Guan as he tried to force his son to become a doctor / lawyer. Ah Guan seems to be talking to himself.

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Ah Guan is being reflective here and perhaps even regrets his actions. Perhaps he should not have imposed his opinions on his son causing a strain in the relationship between father and son.

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There's a hint of regret of letting his son go.

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Regrets of a parent versus contradiction of a parent

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One reader is not sure if it is a turning point - father/son relationship analagous to the mangrove plant. Mona being involved might indicate that it wasn't ah guan who did not want to let go.

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Speaker 1 stated that Ah Guan understands his relationship with Michael.

Shirley on the other hand stated that Ah Guan has a sense of regret reading between the lines.  He has the opinion that his son shd be a doctor or lawyer and when it was forced, Michael left and in that sense he 'lost' Michael.

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