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I agree because one of the rules is revenge so that is violence and you have to break that rule to get rid of violence.

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Great Job Brendan!

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The book "Long Way Down" by Jason Reynolds talks about how family, revenge, and loyalty can affect people's actions. Pages 31-33 are important because they show the rules that make Will do what he does. Will thinks he has to do things a certain way because of the rules. One rule is "No. 1: Crying Don't. No matter what. Don't." This means that nobody can cry, even if they want to, because other people might see it as weak. This rule puts pressure on people to act tough and hide their emotions.

Another rule is “No. 2: SNITCHING  Don't. No matter what. Don't.” This means that you can't snitch otherwise people might want to kill you or hurt you because you broke a rule and you might have ratted somebody out. This matters because Will can't call the police or tell anybody about how his brother got killed, even if he knows Riggs did it. This puts Will in a position to take things into his own hands which is why he feels forced to kill Riggs.

The last rule is "No. 3: Revenge. If someone you love gets killed, find the person who killed them and kill them." This rule makes Will feel like he has to get revenge on Riggs for killing his brother. Will feels like he needs to follow the rules because his dad, uncle, and brother did before him. But he also needs to think for himself and make his own choices.

In conclusion, the rules on pages 31-33 of "Long Way Down" shows how people can feel pressured to act a certain way because of rules they think are important, which might be rules they learn from their families or communities. Will's story teaches us that it's important to think for yourself and make choices that are true to who you are.

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The book ¨Long Way Down¨ by Jason Renolds is about the book's three rules, Crying, Snitching, and Revenge. In the text it states, ¨Crying. Never, Snitching, never. Revenge, always.¨ That is like saying that you sometimes need to do the rules and in the book, Will is doing those because his brother Shawn got shot, and it literally says, ¨find the person who killed them.¨ Witch Will did. But it is just trying to say that if you have rules then follow them the way they are, but sometimes you can break them.

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The pages 31-33 is well written Because the rules are great and it helps the reader to understand what is going on in the story. On page 31 it says no crying Because if he wants to be a gangster then he has to follow the rules. On page 32 says no snitching and you cant snitch on your boys. on page 33 says get revenge if your mom died get revenge.

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The poem shows that Will is living in an area where there are many shootings, as well as gun violence. And there is ¨ The Rules ¨ the importance of the rules is so that people can understand and know what they need to do when someone is killed, or a loved one is killed. This is where The Rules come in to play, on pages 31-33 it overall talks about The Rules which plays a huge part in Will ´ s life and many others. This is mostly the overall theme of the poem, the poem can also reveal that Will and his family live in a dangerous area. It can also reveal that the Rules can be dangerous too. For example: If a loved one is killed, you have to find the killer that killed your family member or friend and shoot or kill them. The problem is that if you kill them, one of their family members has to try and find you and kill you. This is like a cycle or a food chain, it just keeps on going and going and going. But one of the rules is revenge, which can be violent or dangerous. The only way to stop the cycle is to BREAK the rules. This may be a bad idea for Will and others but if you can break the rules, then this ¨kill cycle¨ many lives can be saved. This matters because saving lives is a good thing, not a bad thing. And it could end any kill cycle. This is why this matters.

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Kavan                                                                                    The theme of the novel "Long Way Down" by Jason Reynolds is about Perseverance and teaches us that we should stay strong even through hardships. "I felt like crying, which felt like another person trapped behind my face" (Reynolds 30). This matters because he stayed strong when he was about to cry. 

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Kavan                                                                                    The theme of the novel "Long Way Down" by Jason Reynolds is about Perseverance and teaches us that we should stay strong even through hardships. "I felt like crying, which felt like another person trapped behind my face" (Reynolds 30). This matters because he stayed strong when he was about to cry. 

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How the poems from page 31-33 are important to the hole story, is that the rules tell the theme which is don't always follow the rules. This poem looks like a rule book which makes some sense because they are the rules after all. Also these hole 3 pages could represent the thoughts of a person who wants to make sure he is following the same path of his family.Or it could mean that a person who just lost someone special to them and they are getting throw grief.

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The poems on pages 31-33 in Long Way Down by Jason Reynolds are about the 3 rules and teaches us that the right idea is not to follow the rules because it only gets you killed. In the novel, it states, "No. 1: Crying. Don't. No matter what. Don't." (Reynolds 31) This suggests that if you cry then you can be seen as weak. This points to the fact that it becomes hard to survive. In the text, it also states, "No. 3: Revenge. If someone you love gets killed, find the person who killed them and kill them." As a result, you can be seen as powerful and that you have no weakness. This matters because it is supposed to solve the problem but inside do you think that is the answer? To conclude, I believe that you should follow the first two rules but the last one does not solve the problem because it is internal.

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on pages 31-33 the poem is about the rules Jason reynolds is talking about the rules and telling the readers about the rules. the rules make the reader understand what will is going through and how he wants revenge on Riggs this poem reveals the rules and sculpes the will to show his furry agensed Riggs who killed his brother so will wants to follow the rule of revenge even though the rules say dont cry the emotions are to much and will sheds a tear.

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The book Long Way Down by Jason Reynolds, how pages 31-33 fit into the overall theme of the novel is that they are the rules that is in Wills family and the story is about Will following them because when Shawn died he did not cry or snitch but he is going to get his revenge. In the text it states " I followed The Rules. At least the first two. I hadn't cried. I hadn't snitched. Explained that I was on my way to take care of his killer, follow through with Rule Number Three." Reynolds page 293- 294. This shows that Will is going to take care of the killer and he has followed the first rules and is going to do the last rule. That is one reason that pages 31-33 fit into the overall theme.

Another example from the book is "Stay put, I whispered to him. Stay strong, I whispered to me. Because crying is against The Rules." Reynolds page 30. This shows that Will says to him self to stay strong because he is about to start crying. He tries to not cry and he does not cry because he knows that it is against the rules. In conclusion, this shows that page 31-33 are a big fit into the overall theme in the novel.

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The poems on pages 31-33 fit the theme because they explain the characteristics of Will's neighborhood, and how people should try to break the cycles of violence, even in a harsh place. First of all the characteristics fit the theme. In really harsh neighborhoods, violence is common in a never-ending circle. On page 21, the book says, "Like there's something up there beaming down on us in the dark." This explains how Will felt when Shawn died. It's like he's in a hole of blackness that's so hard to get out of. If we think of the phrase as the circle of violence, it means that people get into a bad mindset, or The Rules, mentioned in the poems on pages 31-33, and fall deep into it. If there's someone strong enough to climb out of it, everyone could be happier. Also, on page 33 “-find the person who killed them and kill them.” This explains The Rules better, and the biggest, worst part of it. In the end, you’re killing someone. You’re making someone fall into a deep, dark hole that not even the moon can illuminate. Even if they did do this horrid thing, it’s likely that they were following the 3rd rule, too. This strongly suggests that you should break the chain. To end, these chapter poems fit the theme of breaking the circle of violence.

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The poem on pages 31-33 fit into the overall theme of the novel because on page 31 it states, " THE RULES NO. 1: CRYING Dont. No matter what. Don't." This tells us that when things come and go it's gonna be hard but you have to follow the rules and not break them so they dont cry. When Shawn died Will was so sad he didn't want to cry because it's against the rules. Then in Long Way Down it says, " NO. 2: SNITCHING Don't. No matter what. Don't." This tells the readers whatever happens don't tell no one like how Will has a gun and is gonna get revenge for what happened to Shawn he wasn't gonna tell no one. and if he did they would not snitch on him. Last, In the book it states, "NO. 3: REVENGE If someone you love gets killed, find the person who killed them and kill them." This shows us that Will is going to get revenge on whoever killed his brother. This poem reveals a lot of stuff, you always should try to be string or at least fake it so it does not look like you broke the rules and something bad happens if you do. To conclude, the theme is to always no matter what follow the rules or else something really bad will happen, i wouldn't want to find out.

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so many things in the book is about how he lived his child hood and I can see that will did not live in a nice place/ house and it also sounds that he lives in the hood and so I can agree because the revenge do always and no crying & and snitching no matter what and that is a type of feelings that they are all describing a serteen feeling that they have in the book like mad or sad and so they all fit in to gettogether...

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pages 31-33 it reveals that if someone kills a person you love go kill them, this influenced the whole book because when Shawn died Shawn's brother went to go get a gun and he was going to go kill the person that killed Shawn. when he did that it didn't end up so good, when Shawn's brother went to go look for the person who killed his brother he found them but they ran and Shawn's brother couldn't get him so he let it go. if Shawn's brother would've killed the person that killed Shawn then his brother would have messed up his life because he wants to go kill the person who killed his brother. these ruler help us understand that you don't always need to kill somebody who killed somebody that you loved. it fits into the novel because everybody needs to know that's if someone kills somebody you love you don't always have to go and try to kill them.

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Pages 31-32 on Long Way Down by Jason Reynolds fit into the novel's overall theme, it is hard to stop the cycle of violence because in the novel it says "No.3 revenge if someone you love gets killed find them and kill them." this means that it is very hard to break the cycle. It will just go on and on it also fits the theme because it is saying never cry and never snitch. I'm curious about the snitching part though because if someone snitches on anyone by killing someone the cycle could stop because he would go to jail. These pages also fit into the overall theme of the story because it is saying that violence is the only way this reveals that a lot of people would do anything for revenge. In conclusion pages 31-33 fit into the overall theme of the novel Long Way Down.

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When reading the poem on pages 31-33 one can observe a connection to the theme of breaking the cycle of violence, which can be observed in the novel "Long Way Down", by Jason Reynolds. Additionally, the poems found on these pages are revealing the kind of environment surrounding our main character, and the cultural norms of the area. These poems describe the well-known rules of the neighborhood; no crying, no snitching, and take revenge. Further description is found in the book as well, for example, the specification for rule 3, take revenge, describes it as the common practice of murdering a person(s) who is responsible for the death of a loved one. This tradition is so normal in fact, that it is shown later on in the book to have been practiced for generations, albeit with questionable outcomes. Connecting these poems back to the theme comes with the overall idea of breaking such cycles of violence. For example, we can find it to be stated "Passed to him. Passed them to his little brother. Passed to my older brother. Passed to me." (Reynolds, 174). This quote is in reference to the Rules, and is displaying how they have been passed down for generations and generations of people in this neighborhood. When these ideas of revenge, and the restriction of crying and such, are passed down, they are creating a cycle of violence. Later on in the book, the theme of breaking this cycle will be brought up, and further explored. However, without the introduction of these rules on pages 31-33, the theme would be harder to understand, especially considering how well these Rules support the theme later found in the novel.

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Pages 31-33 talk about the rules.

-No. 1: crying don´t do.

-No.2: snitching don´t do.

-No. 3: revenge do.

why this madders that will thinks that these rules happen everywhere and that you always follow them. Will thinks that the rules are passed down and are always followed.

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I believe this contributes to the novel because It makes the rules more known. NO:1 Crying

don't

no matter

what."(Reynolds 31) This shows that the first rule is very important and stands out. the other rules are no snitching and get revenge and those rules also play into account in the fact they they also aren't meant to be broken and are also important.

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In the novel Long Way Down by Jason Reynolds, the theme is that violence can really change people because on page 31 it talks about how if someone you love gets killed you have to follow the rules that are from the neighborhood he lives in, "THE RULES crying don't no matter what don't". Also on page 33 which talks about getting revenge on the person who kills someone you love, " If someone you love gets killed find the person who killed them and kill them" which makes Will is kind of nervous because on another page he talks about him never holding a gun. meaning that he wants to get his brother's revenge but he has never held a gun.

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The Rules: no crying, no snitching, always get revenge, connect to the novel's theme because the theme of the book is that revenge isn't always necessary, and the whole book is based on the third rule. The theme of the book can also be described as not all rules should be followed. It describes how you can break the cycle of violence if you don't get revenge one more time.

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It is Important because it shows what the rules are and are why the people will knows keep dying and killing. The poem is also important because it adds to the story and wils character by making will try to kill Riggs.

It also shows how big of an impact the rules can have on a community.

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It is important because it shows what the rules are and why why Wills family and friends keep on dying or getting hurt. the Poem in pages 31 through 33 is important because it adds to the stroy and will by making Will try to kill Riggs. It can also show the rules of how it impacts of community.

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The quote from pages 31-33 explains the rules for their neighborhood, the people in there are always making sure they are making the best decision to survive. It says,"If someone you love gets killed, find the person who killed, them and kill them" (Reynolds 33). This demonstrates that if something happens to someone you care about always get revenge and kill them or do the same thing they did to your loved one. Like, how Riggs killed Shawn Will is trying to get back at Riggs and kill him but he has to get it that point first. The theme of "Long way down," is that you have to survive but you also have to take risks. But will doesn't want to make a mistake because then he will get hurt or worse. Will is just trying to get revenge for his brother because they had an untouchable relationship. Second, it states,"They weren't meant to be broken, They were meant for the broken to follow" (Reynolds 35). This is showing that the rules should not be broken but the only people that would be not be following them is the broken. Wills brother dying broke him but now he is trying to get revenge but its also very hard not to do the wrong thing. This is important because Will wants to find the person who ruined Shawn's life and broke Wills life because he is devastated about his brother. Overall, the theme of "Long Way Down" is survival because if something happens to your loved one you have to get revenge, but you also don't want to make a mistake.

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I believe this contributes to the novel because it makes rules out peaceful solutions.

As the text states "NO. 2: SNITCHING

Don’t.

No matter what.

Don’t." (Reynolds 32)

This means that The person would not be arrested. So therefore there is no way for justice to occur. This means that the only way to exact justice is for you to do it yourself.

"which felt like

another person

trapped behind my face" (Reynolds 31)

This means that will has another version of himself locked away behind the version of him that is bound by the rules. the one that does not want to kill someone. We can see that if that person was let free the cycle would stop. because that version of will would not kill the guy and the cycle would stop there. however it would not be a permanent solution because. It could start again. Someone would have to make sure that the rules were destroyed then and there.

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The novel Long way down by Jason Reynolds, is about change and family and loyalty and it teaches a lot of things that are very important in the future.

I agree with cameron because his evidence is clarifying that the rules wrap around the rest of the book. I think that the pages 31-33 shape the rest of the book because the rules are pretty much the main theme in why Will has to undo Riggs life.

This fits in because everything before the poem was backstory and then and only then after the poem Will starts to ketch up to reality and start the play by play character.

Will also slowly reveals that he only follows the "no snitching, Get revenge¨ because Will has learned that crying doesn't do anything but reveal his weakness to pain and sadness so he just stopped crying so the other rules are just easy enough except the revenge. When Will is in the elevator with Buck, Will actually doesn't want to kill riggs because even if he says he wants to kill riggs he doesn't because Buck says that he "does not have it in him" and Buck is from Willś imagination so is it fact that he does or does he not want to kill riggs. what is the truth.

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Pages 31-33 in the novel "Long Way Down" by Jason Reynolds fit into the overall theme of the novel because the novel's idea/theme is about how sometimes revenge isn't always necessary, even when you lose someone close to you and "The Rules" revealed on pages 31-33 fit into the theme of the novel because it is the driving force for the cycle of revenge throughout the novel which really sparks the plot and is the thing that the theme contradicts. In the novel it says, "ANOTHER THING ABOUT THE RULES/They weren't meant to be broken./They were meant for the broken/to follow" (Reynolds 35) What this quote is trying to say is that The Rules are NOT meant to be broken. This and the other dozens of references to HAVING TO follow The Rules show fit into the overall theme because when the character doesn't follow The Rules, it shows the theme of the story and how revenge isn't always necessary. So, in conclusion, the poems on pages 31-33 fit into the overall theme of the novel because the novel's theme is about how sometimes revenge isn't always necessary, even when you lose someone close to you and "The Rules" on these pages fit into the theme of the novel because it is the driving force for the cycle of revenge throughout the novel.

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The theme of the novel "Long Way Down" by Jason Reynolds is about how revenge is only you doing something just as bad as what was done to you. It is about how if you do the same thing everyone else has done, then nothing will change. The poems on page 31-33 show what the rules are. They show how the rules result in death that didn't need to happen. It shows you that when you get revenge you cause people to continue the cycle of violence. The text says "Trying to scratch the guilt away" (Reynolds 68). This means that Will thinks that the rules are wrong. Through this the book is showing that when you continue to do what you know is wrong, nothing can get better. You can't solve a problem by making the problem a bigger problem. When you continue to get revenge, someone will get revenge on you. This is how the novel "Long Way Down" tells you that when you get revenge, people will continue to get revenge on each other, rather than solving the problem.

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I agree with gabriel because in the story you need to know how to live in a tuff town like will does. Also in the story the rules help people in time of need. Like when we find out that Wills father did the rule to get over

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The poems on pages 31-33 show how the level of violence in a community can affect the people in that community, these poems show us why the level of violence in Will's community is so bad and why so many people die. It reveals what kind of neighborhood Will lives in, and it fits into the book as it plays an important role throughout the book. It shows why Will is doing what he is doing.

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I agree with you because you stated that these rules also help us further understand the circle of violence.

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That poem shows that Will lives in an area where there is lots of gun violence, and there needs to be rules there so that people can understand and know what to do in a situation in which your loved one gets killed. On these pages, it talks about the rules, which are important because it builds the story, and it shows the type of place that Will and his family live in, which is an area full of gun violence. But, this also demonstrates that the cycle of violence would be hard to break especially with the rules, which sort of force people into killing the killer, which would get them killed. But, this would also make people want to continue violence because if your loved one gets killed, you don't think and all you can think about at the moment is "I want to kill them." It also shows that this is going to be the story line of the book, as these rules will be the ones followed, and they also show that this fits into the overall theme because it displays that the neighborhood that he lives in is not good and that this neighborhood that he has lived in is not a safe place to be, as there is gangs, and that would not be safe to be around before you are an adult and can defend yourself legally with deadly weapons. (If with reasonable force)

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on pages 31-33, there is a poem about the rules. Jason Reynolds is telling the reader the rules for the first time. it fits the whole theme of the book because Shawn gets shot dead because of the rules. Shawn did something to someone and the rules say to get revenge. Will´s whole perspective right now is about Shawn's death and other people in the book´s deaths. The whole theme is about Shawn's death and how Will wants revenge but does not want to kill someone because if he does he will feel guilty. for example on page 67, it claims that will want to kill Rigges but does not want to admit it

¨the plan

was to wait for Rigges

in front of his building

me and Shawn were

always over his house

before Rigges joined the gang,

and since then, Shawn has been

up that way a bunch of times

to get Mom´s special soap.

I figured it would be safest

if I went in the morning. if I

timed it right, none of his crew

would be out yet. no one

would ever suspect me. i'd hit

his buzzer, get him to come down

and open the door. then I´d pul my

shirt over my mouth and nose

and do it.¨

page 67 jason Reynolds

This shows that he does not want to admit he has a gun because he feels guilty if he says the word GUN.

shows on the last line ¨and do it¨.

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I agree that in order to stop the cycle of violence cant be stopped unless a person breaks the rules

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The poems from pages 31 to 33 show that the novel's overall theme is to follow the rules because these poems show how you have to follow these certain rules or you will face severe consequences. I know this because the text shows,¨No 1 no crying... no 2 no snitching don't, no matter what don't. no 3 revenge if someone you love gets killed. find the person who killed them and kill them. This shows that these rules need to be followed and if they don't it seems that there will be consequences. This shows that it connects to the claim because the claim is to follow the rules and if you don't then it will be bad. In conclusion, the theme is to follow the rules or there will be consequences.

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I agree because it shows how the rules help the story progress and how they are important to the story.

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I dissagree because I don't think the theme of the book is that revenge isn't always necessary because the theme is more about ethical decisions because he has to make a big decision to either get revenge on Riggs or leave entirely. And that shows us that he has to make the ethical decision.

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I disagree with you because the book's rules actually show that the rules are showing why revenge is necessary, and how the cycle of violence cannot be stopped, and it is killing many. The book is based on the third rule, and shows why revenge IS necessary when someone is killed in the story.

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I think that this is a well-written CER that helps me understand the meaning of pages 31-33. I like how you use the quotes. However, I got a different message from the quote, but they may just be because it has multiple messages. But in summary it is a good CER that gets the message out to the evidence expertly and while there are things I would do differently, it is still good.

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Solomon Weinmanns agrees with Oliver        2nd response 

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Solomon Weinmanns agrees with Oliver        2nd response 

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I agree because the rules are there to keep people in check and if you get out of line you could get killed so Will should follow the rules or maybe he will get murdered.

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I agree because if Will continues the path that all have taken before him and he follows the rule the cycle of violence will never end and will be passed on in a tradition of death.

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I disagree with what you think the theme is. I think the the lesson or theme of the story is that the revenge part of the rules is not very smart because in the end you always get killed.

-Evalyn Larson

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I agree that what had happened in the elevator was Will's imagination and that what happened in the elevator was Will trying to convince himself to not follow the rules.

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I agree with this because it does indeed show that the rules that people have made affect the community, but I also disagree because the poem doesn't show that it affects the community, and you also didn't talk about how it affected the story in the pages ahead.

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I agree that the poems on pages 31-33 express that the rules were made for the reason. I think this is because rule number 3 is revenge and that is their way of surviving.

-Evalyn Larson

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Do you think you could elaborate more on how? I don't quite understand how the level of violence can affect the community. Also, do you think you could add a piece of evidence from the book?

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I agree with you on the fact the cycle of violence is Basically just never going to stop unless someone stands up. I also like how you touched on how will could be that person. Your cererc's theme is definitely good in the facts that two wrongs do not equal right. -tobias

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I agree that in order to stop the cycle of violence can't be stopped unless somebody breaks the rules.

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Sections 31-33 help us understand the overall theme of the novel by helping us understand the rules that about everyone in the city or neighborhood that will lives in helping us to understand why almost everyone in the book gets shot.The poems that we are given aka the rules giving us a pretty good way of figuring out how the cycle of violence countiunes. And if you currently notice that will is in a tough cookie cause if he folloes the rules then were gonna have 2 more deaths being will and that being Riggs or an different kid and will and will sure isn't going to have a good time with a bullet inside of his body and all of this is about violence and teaches on how the cycle could of be broken if one person decided to not take revenge for a love one and told the cops ending the cycle.

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i agree with you becasue it dose for how much rules can impact a community

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I agree with your statement of the rules wrapping around, and surrounding the rest of the book. However, I became confused when you made the statement about Will only following rules 2 and 3, implying that he does in fact cry, and then stating how he does not cry at all? In an overall view of it, I really like the reasoning and some of the wording of your response.

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I agree and kind of disagree. When it comes to rule number 3: revenge does become risky and you have to take chances, but what if you did not do number 3 because, in the end, it seems you always get killed?

-Evalyn Larson

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I Disagree with you because I believe that they were showing how will could break the cycle. But I like how you talked about the relationship and the ghosts.

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The poem on pages 31-33 fits into the overall theme of the cycle of violence and how to stop it by revealing the primary reason why the cycle of violence continues, as opposed to stopping. I came to this conclusion based on two varying pieces of evidence. The first piece of evidence is when the text states, " NO 3: REVENGE. If someone you love gets killed, find the person who killed them and kill them." (Reynolds, Page 33) That supports my claim by proving that if someone gets killed by someone else, they will get killed by someone who loved the person they killed, who in turn would get killed by someone who loved them, and that process will repeat forever, giving us the reason the cycle of violence continues. My other final evidence is when the book states, "AND THEN THERE WERE SHOTS. Everybody ran, ducked, hid, tucked themselves tight. Did what we've all been trained to. Pressed our lips to the pavement and prayed the boom, followed by the buzz of a bullet, ain't meet us." (Reynolds, Page 10) That helps prove my claim by showing us how long the cycle of violence has been happening because everyone knows what to do. In summary, the quote on pages 31-33 helps the theme by telling us why the cycle of violence continues instead of stopping.

-Everett Adams

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Cameron

It helps us the reader what the rules are and how Will follows them. These rules also help us further understand the circle of violence by explaining how everyone knows that they need to get back at other people. It reveals what kind of cituation he is in. The situation Will is in is a not very good one. Because if he knows that he needs to kill someone to avenge a lost one then that is a messed up situation. It fits into the novel because it is an important piece in the book.

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The poem on pages 31-33 fits into the overall theme because it shows the kind of neighborhood and lifestyle that Will follows. "Another thing about the rules. They weren't meant to be broken. They were meant for the broken to follow." (Reynolds, pg. 35) This shows that these people that follow the rules are rule-breakers. The theme or message of "Long Way Down" is that it is okay to break the rules, and it teaches us about family and brotherhood. Will's relationship with his brother is remarkable. They love each other very much and it's easy to tell. When Shawn gets killed, Will is so filled with rage that he probably doesn't think about what he's going to do. What if he misses? What if he kills the wrong guy? What if Riggs wasn't the one who killed Shawn? Will doesn't realize all of these possibilities and all he can think about is that his brother is dead. The ghosts that Will meets in the elevator could just be his brain or his imagination telling him to not follow the rules and break the cycle. To conclude, the poem on pages 31-33 shows what kind of life Will lives.

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I agree and differ with you on your response because while I agree with you about how he has a different him inside of him that's not bound of him, I don't agree with that the quote rules of peaceful endings. I think that is because I believe that the quote shows us why the cycle of violence continues. Nonetheless, it's a great CER and if I hadn't read the book and had my own options, I would have been convinced.

-Everett Adams

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The poem " Long Way Down " ( By Jason Reynolds) talks about how they have rules to keep everyone safe on the gang side of town which is not safe. The text says," No crying no snitching, and no revenge." This can tell us that these rules matter when you are on the bad side of town because that's how Will's brother got killed. Next, it talks about the invention of the rules. in the text, it states," The invention of the rules ain't from my brother, his friends, my dad, my uncle and not from the guys outside, the hustlers or the shooters, and not from me." That shows us the rules were not invented by the guys on the outside and they didn't care if people might have got killed. To end this can show us the rules and how they have to follow them.

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The poems on pages 31-33 fit into the overall theme of the novel because it talks about the rules. The rules define the book and make shape of it because of the things will has to go through. Buck wants will to get revenge on Riggs, and revenge is a rule. This poem reveals the rules which sculpt the character of will and the people around him. The rules also reveal what's happening in Wills life. In the text it says " And the next morning, over hard boiled eggs, and sugar cereal, Shawn thought me, rule number one, No crying" This means that this is where will started to learn about the rules and how important they are. This is why pages 31-33 fit into the overall theme of the book.

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I aggre with this statment a lot because it can help the reader understand how the rules work.

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The poem on pages 31-33 fit into the overall theme of the novel which is to FOLLOW THE RULES giving examples of the rules which were meant to not be broken and for the broken to follow. Revealing how hard it may be to live in a place like Will and his family does. But, it really matters because you can't stop violence without breaking the rules, which is bad.

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The novel "Long Way Down" By (Jason Reynolds) it teaches survival and explains to follow the rules. the text states "NO. 1 CRYING Dont No Matter What. Capizaltaion Good kitten.

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I think that you conveyed the idea really well, and the support was strong. I agree with the statement, and highly enjoyed some of the phrasing and evidence in your writing.

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The poems on pages 31-33 fit into the overall theme of the novel because it talks about the rules. The rules help keep the story together. What I mean is it keeps everyone in the story in there place. The story states "The rules No. 1:Crying." This means that they start to talk about the rules and not to do them and how important they are. This is why pages 31-33 fit into the overall theme of the book.

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Tobias I agree with your statement because I feel that it shows how the rules take place and are important to the story.

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Yess! I agree. The rules definitely shape our book. They show the reader everyone's roles and ideas. So I definitely agree with you.

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I agree that it's about ethical decisions but the ethical decision to not kill Riggs would also show you can break the cycle of violence as well as you don't need to kill people for revenge. There can be multiple themes so I think we're both correct.

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I think that the theme is not trying to say that you have to follow the rules because when the ghosts start appearing they seem to be trying to make Will not want to kill Riggs instead of convincing him to follow the Rules.

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I disagree with Kavan when he says that the theme of the book is about perseverance. Instead, I think the theme is about how sometimes revenge isn't always necessary, even when you lose someone close to you. Also, I don't think the evidence from page 30 shows how he was staying strong but rather it shows how he feels he can't cry because it's against The Rules. I do think perseverance plays a part in the novel but isn't the THEME of the novel.

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Pages 31-33 fits into the overall theme of the novel because the rules are the reason why Will is trying to kill the person who killed Shawn. This is because the rules are: don't cry, don't snitch, and if someone you love gets killed, find the person who killed them and kill them. This reveals that if a lot of people know the rules then there is a circle of people killing other people to follow the rules in Will’s town. This matters because it gives context to the readers.

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I agree because if someone else was doing it for revenge and you get revenge on them then you are doing the same thing they did.

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I disagree with you because I think then books means that you should not follow the rules that way you can stop the cycle.

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I agree because Will kept bringing back the rules in different pages.

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Nick Armas agreeing to Brendans response 

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I agree that you cant stop violence without breaking the rules.

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you have good evidence and I like the way you state one of the rules. to pearl.T

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I think that the book Long Way Down fits into the overall theme and that it shows that the poem reveals that they are very strict. as well as very straightforward so that they can take part in them and. when he says "it feels like There's another person trapped behind my face" on page 30 it means that there is another part of him that does not want to kill and follow the rules so that he avenges his brother and not cry so that he can let them live and to mourn his loss. Throughout the story he is fighting with himself and other people who have fallen to the rules and other things and with his inner voice and at the end he sees it come out and cry because you can only hold it so long. So it shows that he doesn't always follow the rules and other people don't always as well.

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The evidence that is used in the CER well supports your claim but I don't think the theme of the novel is perseverance because at the end of the book Will decides not to follow the rules and kill Riggs.

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In the book "Long Way Down" by Jayson Reynolds, the poem on pages 31-33 sets the story's plot and helps reveal the story's theme: Continuing the cycle of violence will not make things right.

To start, the poem on pages 31-33 sets the story’s plot. Without Rule NO. 2 (no snitching) and rule NO. 3(always get revenge, Will might have chosen to speak with the cops instead of attempting to kill Riggs. The text states, “Rule NO. 3 Had to be.” This evidence is breif but shows that Will is motivated by the rules. After experiencing a similar situation with Danni, and Shawn teaching him the rules, he is motivated to follow Rule NO.3 and get revenge for Shawn.

Furthermore, the poem on pages 31-33 helps to eventually reveal the story's theme. A lot of the ghost’s backstories and deaths are related to the rules. The the ghosts represent a theme that following the rules will continue to violence, won’t solve the problem, and will end up causing more deaths. The text states, “I WANT OUT. The door opened slowly, the cloud of smoke rushing out of the elevator, rushing out of me like an angry wave. I caught my breath as Buck, Dani, Uncle Mark, Pop, Frick, and Shawn chased behind it. The L button no longer lit. I stood alone in the empty box, face tight from dried tears, jeans soggy, a loaded gun still tucked in my waistband. Shawn turned back toward me, eyes dull from death but shining from tears, finally spoke to me. Just two words, like a joke he’d been saving. You coming?” In this text Will feels a great amount of sorrow and is overwhelmed by the ghosts so he wants to exit the elevator. Will stands alone until Shawn calls for him to come. The ending is left on a cliffhanger but it shows that revenge is not always necessary and continuing the cycle of violence will not solve the problem in the situation.

To conclude, the poem on pages 31-33 sets the story's plot and helps reveal the story's theme: Continuing the cycle of violence will not make things right.

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I couldn't agree more with your CER. Your claim is very well written and I completely agree with everything in your CER, especially when you say that it "sparks the plot", as I was looking for a person who also said that.

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I agree because the rules do reveal the kind of neighborhood Will is living in. -Alex