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Based on our group's opinion,The theory which explains convincingly is coming from Chomsky's Grammar Gene (Nativism). It more makes sense because he can prove his arguments about the Timescale and Carer correction to against Skinner's theory (Behaviorism). Moreover there are more views coming from others authors to support this Nativism theory such as Natural Order (Brown, 1973), Cognitive approaches, input and interactions, and socio-cultural perspectives. All these views clearly explore and give more evidences on the process of language acquisition.

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Based on Skinner  children doesn't need correction for exploring their language because they can master the language based on behaviourism, anyone has another conclusion? Or want to add something?

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Other views that support Chomsky's theory are "order of acquisition" and "cognitive approach" (this one has been mentioned by Riris previously, in which human brain is like computer).

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Yeah, that's true....So since we have the same opinion. So Laras probably can make the summary.

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Hehe, Ok then now we got the answer isn't? I mean we do agree with Chomsky theory

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Yes, I stand on Chomsky's theory either. There might be more explanations from the other reseachers/authors to support Nativism theory. We only need to search into it and read alot. hahahaha

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So do I dian

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Yes, even though I do not completely agree with Chomsky's theory of UG, I prefer believe on his rather than behaviorism. It is due the the human's ability to construct languages that they never heard before (in language acquisition), this is called creativity (Hockett, it is discussed in chapter 1).

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Yes I think it goes back again that children don't need correction for their language

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Yeah, Chomsky simply said it is because of UG that a child can acquire the first language. To make us believe his theory, he should explain more on how it is processed. But then it is true also when he came up with his arguments about the Timescale and the Carer correction where within in 5 years it is impossible for a child to acquire 5000 words in correct utterences if it is only through immitating (stimulus-response-reward). The child can not acquire the complex sentences in a short time because they have limitation to pronunce the words And when we observe a family , mostly the parents will do the fact correction to their kids' speaking instead of grammatical correction. Hence, we can see that both theories have their own strengths and weaknesses.

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Yes, that is what makes me wondering too. Even the UG that he believes innate in human, is not biologically proven present in human gene. He just explained that this UG is the device responsible to process the degenerate language inputs and make them as good output.

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For me language is based on behaviorism, because language is learning process, children able to use language based on the process in their life

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But I found that the Nativism theory which is introduced by Chomsky has weakness. He said that child was born with a capacity to acquire  language so called Language Faculty/Grammar Gene (Nativism) and this Language Faculty works just like a computer where the input (degenerate/ungrammatical) goes into the child brain and it is processed by the language faculty and  then the output becomes language A (correct in grammar). What bothers me is he did not explain clearly how this input which is full of errors/ungrammatical being processed and then suddently the output is good. Because actually our brain and computer are totally different to process the data/input.

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Yes Dian based on Chomsky language inputs does not believed about correction

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Actually, behaviorism is attacked by Chomsky for he believes that the language input does not have the correction, but it has a lot of errors (degenerate). If children only take the input and produce the language as output, the language produced will be as exactly as input. However, we can see that children can produce the language which varied from the input. That's why Chomsky believes that we must have a device that makes it happen. In this part, it makes sense

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Yes ris I agree with you but well as mentioned in the class Patents is not trainee as a teacher isn't?

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Exactly Dian,
According to Skinners on his Behavior Verbal book (1957), how the children acquire the language are more into the process when they face an object as stimulus and then they will name it or react towards it verbally (response) and when this case happens frequently (repetition/habit) it will give rewards to the children for the language correction. So, through this behaviorist process,  the parents (edult) will give correction and the children will gradually acquire more languages untill their language like an edult's.

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Ok

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Yes.
Behaviorism, as we already discussed in the previous two discussions, believes that language is acquired through a process which includes stimulus, response, and reward.
Meanwhile, Nativism (brought by Chomsky) believes that we have a certain devise to help us acquiring language namely universal grammar (UG). This UG helps us to recognize and make sense the language.

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Before deciding which theory makes more sense, we'd better clarify first the difference between behaviorism and nativism includes the strengths and the weakness of each theory. Let's review these theory first

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Hello so how?

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We have discussed several theories that attempt to explain how children acquire their native language (especially the grammar) such as behaviorism, Chomsky’s nativism, and some other views.

Which theory do you think explain most convincingly how children come to acquire their native language?

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Hi buddies, this is our fourth discussion!!!
I am going to post the question ya...