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I suppose the “good” in good segregated schools means equal. In that case yes we can have good segregated schools. However  the question is why would we need to segregate the schools if everyone is going to be treated equally and will have the same opportunities? The only difference will be skin color. I believe that all races can overcome this problem and become more accepting of all skin colors if they are all educated about it. Everyone should be taught to accept, adjust, and act fairly with all races so there won’t be the need of “good” segregated schools anymore.

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What surprised me the most about the history of segregation is that most of the time it is caused by millions of people with accidental private decisions. In addition to these private decisions is Defactos segregation which was caused by rouge real estate, income differences, people’s choices, and white flight. I was aware that the areas people live in were based on income differences and some areas were based on ethnicity. But what I have learned is that people decide to move out of suburban areas or small population areas because it's not how they want to appear to others or that it matters what people perceive this area to be.

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Private activity / rouge real estate
Iv'e always known that people that look like me are really the only people that live around me. However I never really wondered why that was.  People only wanted to live with people around that looked like them. Real estate agents worked with white families so that they live with whites and the same with blacks. Federal government is to blame for residential segregation. African Americans didn't meet the requirements that was needed to buy property out of public housing

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The fact that at this time PUBLIC housing was segregated. How would it be fair to segregate something that is open to the "public". Also, the fact that black families were being told not to move to suburbs or not affordable to them and a fair housing act was needed in order to make housing more fair. I just kept thinking that a home is something someone needs, it is something that is necessary to be safe and it was so hard to attain due to segregation.

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I think that the first thing is we can try and change how much money each school gets so that everyone has the same amount of resources and understand how to use them. The other thing that we should do is not give the zone school as their only option for where they live. We should integrate the races split by zones by taking away the zones as be all end all. We should be mindful of the schools that aren't doing well and find ways to raise money and help make all education a better one. Take the schools that are being economically deficient and work on turning them into high quality schools so that no matter where a child goes it ends up being the high quality we look for. Zones shouldn't define how good a school should be.

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I can't really say anything surprised me except for the fact of Levitown, NY because I have family of mixed origins living in what used to be a strictly white neighborhood. I agree with Noelle, as she spoke about how these housing options were literally labeled as "public", yet made so exclusive so that it isn't really a public opportunity, its an opportunity for the public of the white communities.

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The reason this question is so hard to answer is because the solution doesn't just happen in one place. But it happens on a national level. A starting place is confronting our past and present, and evoking a conversation. Of course we can not get every person in America to make a group chat and talk but we can start discussing segregation differently then "the american" textbook did. We can use education as a tool to understand the "truth" and therefore influence our decisions and ability to observe inequalities in todays society. "We are the generation of change" means that we need to be educated enough to see what should be changed and act on it.

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I do not believe we can have good segregated schools. Segregated schools are stereotyped into the idea of “good” and “bad”. . We consider schools good if they have a lot of white, middle-class children who are well-prepared to succeed. We consider schools bad if they have a lot of disadvantaged children who come to school with serious economic social problems that interfere with their learning. It is more likely for the school that has white middle-class children to gain more funding while the other school will not receive it. Schools are separated by zip code and they should not be. The idea of a “Zip Code Frame” should not constrain your educational opportunities and the child should receive an education at the school they please.

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I was most surprised of how public housing came about. Initially they were not for poor people, it was for the middle working class, mostly white, who were homeless during the depression. It was also an attempt to help employment in construction. However, the government created segregated public housing, even within communities that have never known segregation before. After WW2, whites had larger vacancies and blacks had larger lines to be waiting for public housing. No homes were to be sold to African Americans, this is the only way developments like Levitown were able to be created and sustained. This is the start of how we now have residential segregation in every metropolitan area in this country, or defacto segregation.

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I thought it was crazy that New Deal, legislation that I thought  was supposed to be aiding the citizens most affected by the Great Depression, was truly putting into place blatantly racist policies that were manipulating the demographic reality of the US. I think the fact that really struck me the most was that black people earn 60% the income, but only have 7% the wealth that white people do.

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Going back to your point from class, about Horace Mann's beliefs, I find it imperative that people be exposed to a more diverse population in order to supplement the social skills they learn in school. It is also not truly possible in today's America. As the podcast made clear, we need an even number of active and well resourced parents in order to bolster the funding and access any school has, and considering the gap in wealth between different groups, that is highly unlikely in segregated schools.

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I don't think we have good segregated schools. The segregated schools create bad feelings. It makes people at the bottom feel excluded. If inequitable management of school resources, segregated schools will only discourage more people from getting an education.

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What surprised me the most about the history of segregation was how the working people from different races weren’t the ones who chose to move to different areas but in fact, it was the Public Works Administration who stepped in and decided to demolish the tenement housing where people were living together and create separate projects.  It is surprising that the government was so annoyed by the idea of working people both black and white living together that they decided to spend money not only to demolish the building in which people were living but also spend more money on top of that to build two separate buildings. I think this was done because if black and white people live in the same place, the white people will realize that they have no real reason to hate black people which would make them start questioning segregation as a whole and since the government can’t have people turning against the ideas they have created, they split them up and create more division between the races.

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I don't believe we should have segregated schools to begin with, however I do believe that of schools were to be segregated that we could see a lot of them achieve excellence and produce individuals who will succeed in the real world. If all schools were to given equal funding, we would be able to witness more of a spike in the success rates of students because they are being met with funding to support more opportunities and programs for students to venture and decide what they like. But segregated schools won't teach them real social interactions with people of many and all different backgrounds, and schools may only teach what is specific to those students and nothing else which is not ideal at all.

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It depends on your definition of good. If good segregated schools mean equal education, then yes it is possible. If it means diversity, then that isn't possible. I think the question that needs to be asked is why shouldn't we have integrated schools? It seems to me that it would have more benefits to society than segregated schools. Having integrated schools is important to build our character, meaning people are less likely to be ignorant if they are informed and open to people of all races.

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I think the only way we can have good segregated schools is for everyone to have the same privilege. I personally think it’s best not to have segregated schools because it would separate our community and can have a negative effect on people’s background especially those who come from a low income family. From my understanding, it would be best if students from different races and different income families would all come together as a community. It would allow the students to increase their respect for one another and it would definitely allow everyone to have equality.

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I think the only way we can have good segregated schools is for everyone to have the same privilege. I personally think it’s best not to have segregated schools because it would separate our community and can have a negative effect on people’s background especially those who come from a low income family. From my understanding, it would be best if students from different races and different income families would all come together as a community. It would allow the students to increase their respect for one another and it would definitely allow everyone to have equality.

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Public housing was created during New deal period, as a program for middle and working-class white families who were homeless during depression. I thought public housing was for minority group. The government provided housing for African American was designated to the railroad tracks around Industrial buildings. While the whites were placed in residential area further in land. This is surprising to me because I thought the whites get to choose where to live but now, I know they didn’t.

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The podcast outlined that the first step, before policy changes or specific amendments, needs to be a greater awareness of the factors that led to segregation today. Understanding those underlying reasons in paramount in reducing their effects on segregation in our society.

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There is no possible way of having segregated schools and it being good. This is because of privilege and our history with both segregation and the education system. There would need to be an increase in funding and an equal amount of opportunities for each school, however, this would still not fix any issues that would come with the overall action of segregation. Although the students may feel they identify with their class mates in many ways, diversity and learning other people's cultures, backgrounds, etc. helps people build communication, trust, and allows for all people to be united and realize that skin color should not divide one and other.

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I think the best solution would be to have a nationalized or even in a. smaller regionalized prospect, education system. With this, we can see to it that all the schools are following the same, all-inclusive curriculum that benefit them educationally and doesn't just throw random facts about random stints in time at them and then after that, they are forced to sit through an abundance of tests that may not even apply in other parts of the country. We should allow teachers a higher pay and more options to benefit and offer opportunities to the children who's education is in the palm of their hands. Education should definitely be a goal of unification across the country.

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The most surprising discovery to me was that the government had created segregation in many communities that were already integrated for the purpose of giving non-whites the short stick. In addition to this the government also instructed homeowners not to sell to blacks in order to keep them out of certain communities. In addition to this I am surprised that I never heard this information in any history class I have ever taken, making me wonder if this part of the history is intentionally supressed.

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I feel that we shouldn't have segregated schools but if each student will have the same privilege and opportunities as others then yea I can say segregated schools can be good. But having segregated schools can also be difficult for most because of people being divided from others and not be able to socialize like how they want too or learn like how they want too. Every student should be able to attend the school they want and and everyone should be equal.

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I believe we cannot have good, segregated schools because there will always be problems. People will categorize schools as good or bad school. There might be unfair funding for segregated schools. Based on the reading, it is better to have one school where students from all different background attend because then they will be able socialize and get to know one another.

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The education system would find some way to be a corrupt and undo any type of “good” if there were segregated schools. I might be a little biased but due to the history of this country, equal isn’t as equal as people really think it would or should be.

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I am surprised of how the government lie/twist about the information of how blacks lives in school textbooks. Before, I know we teach children of our mistakes from the past, but I didn't think they will try to hide it and act like they didn't do it.

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I personally do not think there is such thing as a good segregated school. In a country that has so much diversity, it is not ideal. Having a segregated school does not teach you about the outside world. I feel like with segregated schools there will be uneven funding, and a culture divide among neighborhoods and communities.

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The most surprised me about this history of segregation is a quarantine action taken by a government department. They wield power to exclude the masses.  Also they segregation neighborhood.

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I don't think we can have good segregated school. Being segregated is like being isolated, it make it seems like we are not equal  or the same because of our race, although we are different but not based on our skin color. Also, it is better for children to learn how to interact with people with all race, this will also will help give new look and ideas.

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As suggested in the podcast, there is no clear answer about how we can remedy the issue of segregation. Some suggesstion that were mentioned is changing policy, teach an alternative cirriculum in schools, and programs for teachers. Rodstein mentioned that not until we all think that segregation is wrong, it cannot be fixed. This was very discouraging to hear because although segregation is not was it was, it still exists even today and it is very obvious. I think the best solution as a way to being making change, is to integrate neighborhoods and remove redlining. A certain zipcode should not identify the race of people who live there.

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I don’t think we can have ‘good’ segregated schools. I think schools need to be diverse in order for us to learn from one another. It’s also unfair in terms of funding and it will never be completely equal.

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No, we cannot have a “good” segregated schools because they should not be segregated in the first place. The whole idea of this is wrong and even if we compromise it in a way that seems doable, it does not change the fact that it is wrong. I don’t see the point of segregated schools. If we all believe that everyone has the right to a good education, then why would what you look like matter? This is to say that people do still think that we should be a segregated society which is wrong.

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Recognizing that residential segregation is just as unconstitutional as school segregation is, would be the first step in taking action. Will we ever fully solve this problem? - it’s hard to say, but it will definitely take a lot of time. There is currently a youth lead organization that focuses on fighting for integration in NYC schools. This program is called Integrate NYC. They gather students from all five boroughs and try to spread awareness on the fact that segregation is still something seen in schools today. This can definitely be a gateway to possible solutions. Being aware and recognizing is essential for change.

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I don't think we can have good segregated schools just because United States is a Multiracial and migrate country. Also the racism problem is a root idea within the U.S history. I don't think there would be a good competation relationship between segregated schools. and that makes segregated school being not fair. And it is not good.

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I don't think we can have good segregated schools just because United States is a Multiracial and migrate country. Also the racism problem is a root idea within the U.S history. I don't think there would be a good competation relationship between segregated schools. and that makes segregated school being not fair. And it is not good.

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I learned a lot of new information regarding how the public housing system started. I was surprised that public housing was created for working/middle class people during the Depression. This is not how our public housing system is portrayed now. What really surprised me was how Rodstein mentioned that this became a way for the government to continue keep people segregated. This makes me wonder that by the Government doing this, are they making us think we are not segregated but then still find ways to keep us separate? Or is it us who actually want to be segregated?

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I don't have any good solution so far. I think it have to do with how people think. I think, things will be better if you try to accept the difference around you. Also, there will not be different if only a part of the people change, and I don't think people will change the way to think for now, maybe in the far future.

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I think that segregation of schools can't be good, especially if it is done by wealth. Giving poorer neighborhoods access to better quality education will benefit society as a whole. The reasoning being that less time and money will need to be spent on addressing poverty and its downfalls. For example providing them with the skills needed to go to college, get a job, and learn to grow out of their current situation.

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I believe that we cannot have good segregated schools. Segregated schools would cause students to be taught from one background and culture, in a world that is diverse. They wouldn't be ready for the real world and the many opinions that would hit them. This will affect the socially, not knowing how to interact with others of diiferent background. Segregated schools would get a different types of treatment compared to other schools, which would be unfair as well. Every student should have an equal education, if we're all learning the same thing at the end of the day.

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I don't think we can have good segregated schools. The schools we go to should be a representation of the world we live in. If we were to go to school with only certain groups of people, we prevent students from learning about different cultures and languages, which can both be essential to prevent a divided country. It is most important to have elementary schools embrace and celebrate multiculturalism, as teaching this at a young age is most effective for the future.