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“The question still remains: when will black women demand

that their desires be recognized in adult entertainment?

As black women have different visual pleasures,

it’s going to take more than one visionary to

step up to the plate.” (3)

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“Rubin  maps  this  system  as  one  where  ‘the  charmed

circle’ is perpetually  threatened  by  the  ‘outer  limits’  or those  who  fall  out  of  the bounds  of  the  acceptable. On  the  bottom  of  this  hierarchy  are  sexual  acts

and  identities  outside heterosexuality,  marriage, monogamy, and  reproduction.  She  argues  that  this  hierarchy  exists so  as  to  justify  the  privileging  of  normative  and  constricted

sexualities  and  the  denigration  and punishment  of  the  ‘sexual  rabble.’” pg. 14

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Why is there an expectation for black women to demand that their desires be recognized? Why is the liberation of pornography falling on the shoulders of black women?

How does this relate to “black anality”?

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“My  investment  in  the  term  ecstasy  also  contains  a  utopian  wish  for black  feminist  theory.  Drawing  on  José  Muñoz's  conception  of  ecstasy  as “an  invitation,  a  call,  to  a  then-and-there,  a  not-yet-here...a  collective potentiality,” (11)

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How does this hierarchical structure of sexual acts and identities relate to Black pornography, specifically when Black women are the subject of porn? Is this hierarchical structure challenged when Black women’s pleasure/desire are centered in pornography?

Considering the language being utilized in this quote, how does this attempt to umbrella all sexual acts and identites as similar to each other perpetually harm discussions about Black pornography and Black experience in pornography?

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Using Cathy Cohen’s idea of the “radical potential of queerness,” what radical potential or “utopic” idea is presented by Nash in order to subjugate previous definitions of “ecstasy?” In other words, do you find there to be a radicalness in pornography when Black women’s desires and pleasures are centered?

Using Morgan’s language of “fucking with the grays,” how does feminist pornography attempt to tap into different purposes of pornography, specifically racialized pornography?

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I think the liberation of pornography falls on the shoulders of black women because they have two identities that have always been oppressed; being black and being a woman. People think that if black woman are liberated, all people are liberated. That is not to say that it wouldn't be true, but saying that people use black women as mules for their own liberation.

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it seems like black women are often seen as symbols or their actions have to have a deeper meaning other than just their pleasure and joy. It reminds me of the dichotomy of good versus bad representation and how black women have to be one or the other.

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this reminds me of how black people are expected to educate and be patient with nonblack people. part of taking power is depending on your allies to speak on your behalf when youre too busy to.

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It goes to show that Black woman are seen as entertainment so when they themselves seek to fulfill their desire it is put on their shoulders.

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I think there's also a distinction worth drawing here about where specifically this quote is asking black women to "step up". I think it's important for black women to be creators in the creation of entertainment for black women audiences. However, like what we talked about with the musicians, it's worth asking who decides which films are produced / distributed and how are black women meant to get into those positions (there's a distinction between producer/director and executive who hires them)

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i think it can challenge the hierarchy when black women take the conversations to themselves because they can represent their own community's desires but it can also lead to feeding into stereotypes in the name of views

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The system is rooted to have black women at the bottom. Black women and their desire are

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@ the second question: maybe it can also represent the fears of the black community as well as the desires because they are equally as important and it has an effect on them day to day so wouldn't it be more accurate or erotic to represent the reality?