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What are some common ECG-related questions/concerns from: (i) students (ii) colleagues (iii) parents?

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What are some common ECG-related questions/concerns from: (i) students (ii) colleagues (iii) parents?

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How many schools and talent areas can you apply?

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is there still 5 years N level course? Or everyone graduates at the same time i.e 4 years?

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is there still 5 years N level course? Or everyone graduates at the same time i.e 4 years?

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Jayden is in P5. He learns about climate change while watching a You Tube video. He wants to save the earth and do something to prevent climate change. He thinks that Singaporeans need to know more about recycling. He shared with you, his form teacher, that his parents are not supportive of this goal as they think it is not viable or practical. 

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Jayden is in P5. He learns about climate change while watching a You Tube video. He wants to save the earth and do something to prevent climate change. He thinks that Singaporeans need to know more about recycling. He shared with you, his form teacher, that his parents are not supportive of this goal as they think it is not viable or practical. 

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Jerry is a P6 student, taking all 3 subjects at the Standard Level and Mathematics at the Foundation Level. Recently, he received his PSLE results. His Achievement Level (AL) scores and Posting Group (PG) offer(s) are as follows: EL-4, FMA-A, MT-4, Sci-6. Total AL score:20. PG:3. He was offered Mathematics at either G3 or G2, at the start of Sec 1. He came to you for advice. During the conversation, he expressed his anxiety in taking Mathematics at G3 level in Secondary School as he had been struggling with this subject in Primary level.

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Jerry is a P6 student, taking all 3 subjects at the Standard Level and Mathematics at the Foundation Level. Recently, he received his PSLE results. His Achievement Level (AL) scores and Posting Group (PG) offer(s) are as follows: EL-4, FMA-A, MT-4, Sci-6. Total AL score:20. PG:3. He was offered Mathematics at either G3 or G2, at the start of Sec 1. He came to you for advice. During the conversation, he expressed his anxiety in taking Mathematics at G3 level in Secondary School as he had been struggling with this subject in Primary level.

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One method:
To make use of the ECG Framework.
1) Who he is?
Jerry is aware of himself
2) What does he want to do?
Teacher can discuss with him what does he want to do. Teacher can reassure him that he will have the flexibility to change his mind. Go through with the student what G2/G3 Maths is like.

Get a past year student to come back to school to share with Jerry what G2/G3 Maths is like.

Another method:
Get a better understanding if the student and parent understand the new framework / system (with regards with G1, G2 and G3). The teacher can discuss it with both the parent and student, getting a better sense of students' readiness.

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Most parents will prob feel the change is a good one. Allows for child to maximise potential in subjects he/she is strong in and at same time, have a good mix of friends in form class

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Questions from Parents
Will there still be O level?
What certificate will my child receive?

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Will students who have to do only G3 subject levels be stigmatized?

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Will students who have to do only G3 subject levels be stigmatized?

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Will teachers feel adequate enough and/or be updated in our knowledge to help our students well? DSA, etc.

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Do I still look at PSLE score range eg. Express 6-14, NA 21-23 when applying for secondary sch although all schools are going for full SBB next year?

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Students/ Parents - How will I/my child which band I/they below to? Can we ask to go to another band? 

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Students/ Parents - How will I/my child which band I/they below to? Can we ask to go to another band? 

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concerns about post secondary opportunities especially for lower progress students

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concerns about post secondary opportunities especially for lower progress students

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What are the cut off points for the various Sec schools?

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What will happen at the end of their secondary school career when they do different subjects at different levels? Will they need to stay back an additional year to take the subject at a higher level to get the course they want to in a poly or jc?

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What if there is no available course for the subject combi I am doing or I cannot go to the course I want to go to because I dont have the right subjects at the right level for it?

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What are the necessary scores etc. to promote from G1 to G2 etc.

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What are the necessary scores etc. to promote from G1 to G2 etc.

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(i) kinds of jobs available, effects of results on future careers
(ii) how to keep up with latest changes and trends (so as to offer relevant advice)
(iii)how to choose schools which are suitable and ensure child is well-prepared for future

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Jia Ling is a P6 student, offering all subjects at Foundation Level. She converses fluently in English, but has difficulties reading and writing. This has affected her learning in other subjects. Despite her learning difficulties, she puts in effort and attained a borderline ‘B’ grade for all her subjects in her prelim exams. She enjoys learning via hands-on activities, such as building electric circuits during Science lessons and Makers Club. Jia Ling shared with her teacher that she is excited about progressing to secondary school but is anxious about coping with studies. She hopes to continue learning more about electrical design via hands-on approaches in secondary school. She aspires to be an engineer but feels that engineering might not be suitable for girls.

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Jia Ling is a P6 student, offering all subjects at Foundation Level. She converses fluently in English, but has difficulties reading and writing. This has affected her learning in other subjects. Despite her learning difficulties, she puts in effort and attained a borderline ‘B’ grade for all her subjects in her prelim exams. She enjoys learning via hands-on activities, such as building electric circuits during Science lessons and Makers Club. Jia Ling shared with her teacher that she is excited about progressing to secondary school but is anxious about coping with studies. She hopes to continue learning more about electrical design via hands-on approaches in secondary school. She aspires to be an engineer but feels that engineering might not be suitable for girls.

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how would it affect me if i take all my subjects at G1 level?

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What is SBB about?
How do they determine which course to take?
If all students can choose to do subjects at different levels, how to determine if they can go to JC/ Poly?

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How do I go about choosing?

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Can I jump groups at the end of Secondary 1, or must wait till Secondary 3?

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will all schools offer subjects at all levels (G1 - G3)

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When taking at different levels, is there a possibility that students take only 2-3 subjects at Year 5?

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Are there still Express and Normal Streams ? How does it work?

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Are there still Express and Normal Streams ? How does it work?

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As an ECG coordinator, if I am not involved in the advising role/ teaching in upper primary level, how can I help out with meeting to the needs of the students?

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How will sbb affect their admission to different institutions after secondary school

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Think parents and primary school teachers all have to be kept in the loop so that we can better advise the kids as many parents are still not familiar with this new system. 

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Think parents and primary school teachers all have to be kept in the loop so that we can better advise the kids as many parents are still not familiar with this new system. 

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- lost in the sea of choices
- different personal experiences; unsure how best to guide students
- parents may have their own viewpoints which differs from us on what is the 'right' path for their child

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is the grading similar to all sec schools? or do individual schools decide the cutoff for each G1/G2? levels

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Will criteria for students to choose between the different bands be the same across all schools?

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Will criteria for students to choose between the different bands be the same across all schools?

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what are different cut off points for different schools and the subjects offered ?

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Janani has just received her PSLE results. She learnt that her DSA-Sec application outcome was unsuccessful due to her not meeting the required score range of her previous conditional offer. Janani is very disappointed and comes to you, her form teacher, for support and advice. She applied via DSA under the talent areas of coding and Science, but she is unsure about what schools she can apply to, which will help further develop her interests. 

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Janani has just received her PSLE results. She learnt that her DSA-Sec application outcome was unsuccessful due to her not meeting the required score range of her previous conditional offer. Janani is very disappointed and comes to you, her form teacher, for support and advice. She applied via DSA under the talent areas of coding and Science, but she is unsure about what schools she can apply to, which will help further develop her interests. 

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Sg society is fixated on jobs in the STEM or look up at certain jobs. How do we move away from that and encourage students who have interests that are not related to these industries.

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1) wouldn't it be mayhem to lump the different students together in one class?

2) will my child end up being distracted by the naughtier classmates?

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Room 2 discussion (ACS(P), ACS(J), Mayflower P)

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Room 2 discussion (ACS(P), ACS(J), Mayflower P)

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1. SDE: Students allowed to choose from a list of pre-selected companies and visit them (Companies related to sustainability in line with SG Green Plan)

2. Take Your Child to Work Day (Students follow their parents to work on school e-Learning Days), reflect on experience in SLS

3. Career Fair in school with booths for students to visit (Garner support of PSG)

4. Career talks/ Morning assembly zoom talks with career experts

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- Getting students to get used to the ECG website and look at potential schools based on their interests
- Through CCA: Discussion about DSA application based on which schools are ideal for the students
- Holding career talks by guest speakers from different industries --> ECG counsellor may have a list of these people
- Secondary School Life Experience: 45 min lesson and 15 min tour. --> response was good
- Introduce the AL system in P5 and how it affects their PSLE score
- Special programme for SEN students --> 1 day school visit

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1. Spark curiosity through learning journeys for the 6 levels. Learning journeys are usually SS related. To incorporate understanding jobs through the learning journeys.
2. Make students understand character strength. VIA character strength survey as well as personality trait. After which to explore schools through CCAs, etc.
3. Organise career talks. Interview skills workshop for P6 to equip them with skills if they want to apply for DSA.
4. Future Me initiative: Get P6s to research and dress up as the occupation they have researched on or bring a prop to represent what they researched. Will share with other students what are the skills they need for the occupation, etc.
5.  Invite parents from 4 different job scopes. Workshop style to talk to the students.

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We try to include parents as the speakers/presenters as much as possible to make it more meaningful for both students and adults.

Choices of careers featured are very targeted and provide a more helicopter view of careers choices.

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Johan is in P6 who comes from a single-parent family with a low income. He often helps out at his mum’s food stall as he loves cooking. In class, you heard him and his friends chatting about the secondary schools they were thinking of. Johan said, “I want to be a hawker like my mum. So it doesn’t matter which school I go to, since I also don’t really know what kind of school will suit me anyway.” One of his friends remarked, “Huh? Hawkers do not earn much!”

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Johan is in P6 who comes from a single-parent family with a low income. He often helps out at his mum’s food stall as he loves cooking. In class, you heard him and his friends chatting about the secondary schools they were thinking of. Johan said, “I want to be a hawker like my mum. So it doesn’t matter which school I go to, since I also don’t really know what kind of school will suit me anyway.” One of his friends remarked, “Huh? Hawkers do not earn much!”

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JSPS- Fair for P6, choice given to P6 studeht

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Farrer Park Primary
We invite some parents to talk about their careers to our Primary 5 students. Work shadowing for primary 4 students to follow their parents to their work place and share with classmates.

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Inviting guest speakers / parents  from different industries to give talks. A parent from the class together with the child do a show and tell about the parent's career.

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Cantonment Primary School - Terra Village (Entrepreneurship)
Students will set up booth to sell during the car-lite event.

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We have guest speakers who come to conduct talks.

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Plan career fair and invited guests to share their working experience

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ECG Day - Invitation of parent speakers to share on their occupations with the pupils.
It can be either:
- 2 parent speakers per level to share with whole level cohort
- invited parents to share with pupils of the class (can be informal "show and tell" with child)

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Invite parents to physically come to school to share about their careers.

Create an online e-Fair for P6 students, having parents to record about their work and share.

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Xinghua Primary School - We explore the SkillsFuture platform, where students are given the opportunity to find out more about the different education options and secondary schools. Many are interested in the World of Work and get to know more about different jobs.

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AT- Parents share talks on their careers, their edu background and progression. Post PSLE Act.

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Jing Shan Primary:
1) Sharing of job experiences from invited speakers for their Career Fest. 4 speakers and brainstorm on topics.
2) Survey from P6 students on preferred choice of industry for following year.

Ai Tong Primary:
Invited parents to share their career via Zoom, i.e How they managed, how they scored in PSLE, how they progressed, etc.
Sharing message that even if they didn't do very well in primary school, they can still do well later in their careers/ future.

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- get ECG Counsellors to talk to students
- find out what's their score, which schools can match their scores and vicinity of the schools to students' homes and guide them on choices.
- use mySkillsFuture to guide Janani on options and how to navigate the website with her
- Find out what are her strengths and work with her on where she wants to go; providing her with possible pathways to navigate her Secondary choices
- Harness her interests ( i.e. Coding/ Science) and help her see other schools that could match her interests or CCA

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- Refer to ECG Advising Framework
- Talk to the student individually about schools that offer cooking skills for him and encourage him to be more proactive to discover what he really wants
- Find out if he really likes cooking or does he really like some other aspect of being a hawker --> develop his strengths (Answer the Who Am I Question)
- Teacher can show what other opportunities are available for him in the F&B industry using the Skills Future Website
- Let student identify his personal strengths
- Check if he needs to continue his family legacy (affirm the student if this is a yes)
--> Show case studies on how people have quit other jobs to become a hawker --> more relatable
- Encourage him to inform his parents to explore the website/ his options --> can find out his relationship with his parents
- Focus should be on his educational journey and the soft skills he needs to develop and not the job he wants to do. Let him know that his interests may change over time and let him know the importance of education

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1. Who am I? (Discovering purpose)
- Probe further to find out why he wants to help with mum's stall

2. Where do I want to go? (Exploring opportunities)
- What other occupations related to cooking could Johan consider? [Explore MySKillsFuture]
- What skills would a hawker need? Would some academic skills come in relevant?
- Need for Johan's friend to recognize the importance of all careers [Income may not equate to success, share authentic stories King of Fried Rice eg]
- Considering Secondary school options:
[Schools that offer ALP in Food Sciences, Schools with culinary clubs]

3. How do I get there? (Staying relevant)
- Link to how being a hawker/ food industry was important during COVID times

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Clarify with Janani the reason for applying for that Secondary School for DSA.
If it is due to her interest in coding and Science, we can advise her to look through My SkillsFuture to look at other schools offering CCAs related to her interest.
Find out the reason why she is interested in Coding and Science. Is there any other CCA she is interested in?
May start at middle primary for students to be prepared if they would like to apply for DSA.
Teaching children to set realistic targets.

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Discovering Who am I
- Instead of focusing on Jia Ling's weaknesses, we could ask question to help discover herself so that she can recognize her strengths and how she learns best.
- Affirm her good learning attitude.

Where do I want to go?
- Share with Jia Ling the different options for her next education path.
- Share success stories of how girls can excel in the engineering field as well, to shift her mindset that engineering is only for boys.
- Advise Jia Ling to go for open house, websites / portals of the different schools.
- Encourage Jia Ling to be open-minded when exploring her job choices.

How do I get there?
- Set targets and goals for herself, both short and long term goals.
- Attend courses to hone her skills and discover her interest.

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1. Start with the child - What makes Jayden interested in climate change. How much he knows about climate change, green economy, etc.
2. Expand knowledge and open up child's interest - Student's interest may be limited to one's environment and exposure. Therefore Exploration can be recommended to find out more about green economy, etc.
Exploration of educational pathways and industry.
3. (Where do I want to go) - Make use of SkillsFuture portal to help Jayden map out his possible pathways
4. (How do I go there) - Parents engagement to help Jayden explore and experience relevant industry
5. Career Day organized by school to include STEM, Humanities, future job sectors.