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Question: Are KIPP students different from other public school students? Being specific outline the differences and similarities. Support your answer.

Answer: KIPP students are different than other public school students in a multitude of ways. For example KIPP students are often not as wealthy as students on other public schools because of this some of them have a stronger work ethic because they want to get out of the poverty that they are living in.

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I think that they had a really good idea extended school year because then it could also keep kids out of trouble. They could also benefit off of better reading scores because they wouldn't have lost reading skill in the

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KIPP students are very different from normal public school kids. Firstly, public school kids get the time to do activities and hobbies that they enjoy after a normal school day. Public school kids on the other hand are given hours upon hours of homework they need to complete everyday. Secondly, KIPP students learn 50 to 60% more than public school students because of the extra opportunities KIPP gives them to learn more. For example, KIPP students have to go to school at 7:25 AM and leave it at 5 PM, while students like us are here from 8 to 3. Thirdly, KIPP students are usually less wealthy. For example, in the text, it states that kids aren't learning anything over the summer because their family can't afford books or other reading material. Fourthly, the KIPP kids are taught differently in schools. The teacher that was interviewed (sort of) at KIPP told Gladwell that students were to be taught slowly and given time to do problems. They also have thinking classes before school and even classes on Saturday. One similarity between the public school students and the KIPP students is that they are both given extraordinary opportunities to become successful. Public school students have the privilege of going to a school and learning things, and the KIPP students have the privilege to get out of the poor places and go to college.

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I agree with the assertion than an extended school year could help students be more successful because in the book it talks about how the students in higher income families learn more over the summer and are set up to do better in school than kids from the lower income families who live a more carefree summer with little to no education outside of school. I don't know if Marita made the right decision because she is very stressed out all the time about how she has a ton of homework each night and doesn't get a lot sleep but it seems like she is okay with this and she is thriving in KIPP.

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At the end of the story, the author tells us that most school are giving kids "(...)acres of playing fields and gleaming facilities. She doesn't need a laptop, a smaller class, a teacher with a PhD, or a bigger apartment. She doesn't need a higher IQ." This showed us what schools think that kids need in order to improve but really all we need is a chance and someone who believes that we will do great things. We can only succeed knowing that we are going to get something out of it. I think the author kept repeating this was because he really wanted us to get that in our brains that we don't necessarily need all this extra money and effort put into us. Sure, it's nice when it does happen but we just want it, not need it. All we need is someone who is willing and patience enough to take the time out of their day(s) to help us.

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purple: I agree with Gladwells assertion that an extended school year helps kids become more successful. Most kids are under educated and extending the school year allows for more to be taught into more depth for a better understanding. Yes I do think  Marita made the right decision to sign up for the KIPP school because it gave her in opportunity to become successful and a better student to get her into the collage she wants with the right education.

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I agree with Gladwell's assertion that an extended school year would make students from urban schools more likely to succeed because in section 3 on page 257, it states, "Over the course of five years of elementary school, poor kids 'out -learn' the wealthiest kids 189 points to 184 points." This shows that the extended school year is beneficial to the students and improves their learning and education.
I think that Marita's bargain may be a little bit harsh, but she enjoys it and believes that it is advantageous towards her. For instance, on page 267 of section 6, the author writes, "She will get up at five-forty-five in the morning...In return, KIPP promises that it will take kids like her who are stuck in poverty and give them a chance to get out." I think that Marita made the right decision to sign up for the KIPP school as it gives her a chance to succeed in life and get out of the lower-income class.

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KIPP students are very different from normal kids. They excel in math more than any other subject and they enjoy it too. They are not as good in other subjects but very good in math. "What KIPP is most famous for is mathematics. In the South Bronx, only about 16 percent of all middle school students are performing at or above their grade level in math. But at KIPP, by the end of fifth grade, many of the students call math their favorite subject.... By the end of eight grade, 84 percent of the students are performing at or above their grade level,..." (Page 251) This quote explains that KIPP students are different from other students. They enjoy math and they are good at it too.

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KIPP students are different from other students because of the responsibilities they're given to manage. Kids in other public schools are not given as many, so (as stated on page 265) "Children, we like to believe, should have more time to play and dream and sleep." As for Marita, like many of her classmates at KIPP, she has more responsibilities that she, is well, responsible for. On page 266 it backs up this claim by saying, "Marita has responsibilities. What is being asked of her is the same thing that was asked of the Korean pilots. To become a success at what they did, they had to shed some part of their own identity, because the deep respect for authority that runs throughout Korean culture simply does not work in the cockpit." Explaining this piece of evidence would show how the responsibilities and days of KIPP students are completely different from the ones of average public schooled kids.

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( I used the purple Marita's Bargain Question )

Yes, I do agree with Gladwell's assertion involving an extended school year to help less privileged and urban kids because there has literally been scientific studies show that people who can't afford math clubs out of school and extracurricular math study sessions are most definitely fall behind people who are more fortunate. Studies have also shown that these less privileged kids/low level kids actually stay close to the mid level kids when they are learning in school. I do believe that Marita made the right bargain and choice to sign up and enter Kipp Academy because she is a student that always wants a challenge, and even though she no longer has as much time to do friend activities she believes that she will be more successful and have more opportunities than she would have had if she was still learning at a parochial school.

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I agree that schools should extend the educational year to make assist in making urban schools more successful. I think it was a very fulfilling decision and really impacted any teenager's life positively. David Levin signed up beginning his words, "I find that the problem with math education is the sink-or-swim approach. Everything is rapid fire, and the kids who get it first are the ones who are rewarded."(page, 262). This shows how KIPP helps urban schools with their students finding where they fit in.
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I agree that an extended school year would make kids from urban areas more successful. The book showed us tests that were given to see how much improvement kids had over the course of the school year. It also showed us tests of how much knowledge was lost of the summer. The tests showed that the first class citizens excelled during the summer, because they had access to learning during the summer. The second or third class citizens didn't have that access, so they fell way behind.Having school in the summer would give equal opportunities to everybody, and would be beneficial to everybody.  I think Marita made a good bargain. She will go on to be successful, because she pushed herself and had to do hard work. If she didn't do that she definitely would not have the opportunities that she was given because of KIPP. Yes, she doesn't have a "fun" child hood that people dream of. But a priority to her was getting a good education, so she did what she had to do, to do well. In the end, that will help her for the rest of her life.

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KIPP students are  different and similar from other public school students. KIPP students have much longer hours in school. School for KIPP students seems to  take up most, if not all, their free time, with the start time at 7:25 to 5pm. This allows them to become very educated and focused into school. Public School students have less daily school hours, and have many more breaks than KIPP students. Public school kids sometimes forget what they learn when they come back to school after summer, while KIPP students dont forget anything because of their school year round schedule. The schools are both similar because anyone could attend.

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I do agree wth Gladwell's assertion that an extended school year would make students from urban schools more likely to succeed because they would have more time to digest the same information, or in some cases, digest more information. I do think that Marita made a good bargain because she had a very big work ethic and lived up to all expectations. I think that Martha did in fact make the right decision to sign up for KIPP because she knew what she had to do and knew what to do first, second, and so on. She had a good priorty because she knew how to do it and what might happen when she did it.

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Purple: I agree that longer school years make student more successful. Having a longer year takes away all of the breaks that set student behind. In Marita's situation I agree that the bargain she made was good. She made the choice to succeed but she needed to work hard and stay focused to reach this success.

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KIPP students are different then other public school students. They have longer hours work on weekends, summer and have more thing to do in school. This lets them get a better education even but it is very hard work. Also KIPP students are from poorer backgrounds and in the study that showed that they had the most growth during the school year but lost in the summer break. If there was no summer break like at KIPP they would constantly improve to be successful. They are different in background, time worked and how they get students via lottery. They are similar because it costs less money then private schools and anyone in the area can go there.

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Responding to purple..

I agree with Gladwell's assertion that an extended school year would make students more likely to succeed. However it did take away a part of the kids childhood, it made them more intelligent and more successful. Marita made a good decision signing up for KIPP because however she has lost her "play time" and some of her old friends she agreed that it sounds hard nut you get the hang of it and it makes you more successful overall. I agree with Gladwell's assertion because they showed statistics of how much people forget over break and the poor people were the biggest on forgetting and the best when in session. Therefore if there were extended school years the poorer students would be more successful.

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Responding the green.

KIPP students are different than regular public school students since they have more responsibility. This is outlined on page 265 and 256 when it starts section 6. It states "Marita's life is not the life of a typical twelve-year-old...To become successful at what they did, they had to shed some parts of there own identity." That means that KIPP students have to abandon things in order to make time for school. The Kipp student and public school student are the same because they both have schedules to follow. I know Marita's schedule and my schedule is completely different but we both have one. Her's is much more specific and packed than mine but, just like her I follow my schedule.

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I answered the purple question

I agree with Gladwell's assertion that an extended school year would make students from urban schools more likely to succeed  because if you give kids from lets say Chicago where most kids are under educated and have poor schooling more time to learn and less time out of school and more time practicing topics you make them focus for more of the year and ensure that they dont lose a lot of the skills they learn over the break. Which then results in more information sticking with them and them becoming better students. Also I do agree Marita made the right decision because it meant she had a chance to be a good student and get a good opportunity for college which most dont get from her area because people are poor.

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I think that KIPP students are somewhat different. They learn and have a normal day like us. But they are taught a different way. They have school uniforms and are required to take music and orchestra, as not like public school where you can have the option of music classes. They are taught to learn a different way, a way that we are not used too. Another way it is different is that they are underprivileged kids, they have less opportunities than us, but that doesn't mean that they don't work hard. They probably work harder than us, to get into a college and get a good job. We are given many things while they have to work for them. In the text on page 263 it states "We had a girl in this class," Corcoran said. "she was a horrible math student in fifth grade. She cried every Saturday when we did remedial stuff. Huge tears and tears." At the memory, Corcoran got a little emotional himself. He looked down."She just e-mailed us a couple weeks ago. She's in college now. She's an accounting major."

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I agree with Gladwell's assertion that an extended school year would make students from urban schools mroe likely to succeed. I think that many wealthy students do receive opportunities over the summer, allowing them to stay ahead of the school year. I think that less wealthy neighborhoods, just like all of the other middle-class and high-end schools, should receive the equal opportunities.
I think that Marita did make a good bargain. She sacrificed many things in order to get a good education, but in my opinion, the good outweighs the bad. As Gladwell inserts an interview of Marita, she says that, "She would never have any homework. And she would say, 'Oh, my god, you stay there late.' Then she said she wanted to go to KIPP, but then she would say that KIPP is too hard and she didn't want to do it." (Gladwell 266) Marita is explaining how intense the school year is at KIPP, but how much it does pay off to go there. If Marita were not to go to KIPP, she would have received another working-class job with a poor education. On the contrary, if she were to go to the regular public schooling, she would likely receive a poor laborious job which doesn't earn a lot of money to support families or others.

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KIPP students are not actually that different from public school students, they both go to school, day to day and get their work done. The only difference is, was that the KIPP students go the the KIPP academy to get pushed to do their best which is what public school kids dont do. For example, you always see the PA kids walking the hall talking about how their day has been going with their other PA friends. The typical middle school-er will think the PA kids have a lot of homework, that they dont have lives outside of school, they study 24/7 and cant do anything. You might not see the relation at this moment but give me a minute. Now the kids looking up into the KIPP academy and think the same things, no lives, alot of homework, studying all the time. What they really dont see is that the workload might seem alot to you but its the SAME AMOUNT that we get, its normal to them. Certain people say i want a challenge which is ok but those people never imagine what happens WHEN YOU ACCOMPLISH THE CHALLANGE. Those PA kids or KIPP academy kids that say that there workload is easy and they're "used to it" means that they wanted a challenge and they have beat the challenge, this doesn't always mean that you going to succeed.

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Yes, KIPP students are very different than other public school students because KIPP treats all students the way they are meant to be treated. For example, the text said they give extra help to people with only one parent, and give some of them free lunch. Some public schools do not do this. KIPP students get special treatment based on their situations. KIPP is also very focused on giving kids the time to do what they want, and makes sure they have time after school to do so. KIPP students also have longer days than most public schools. Students said in the text that they don't get home until 5pm, which is way later than regular public schools.

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I agree with Gladwell about the extended school year because most students do not do anything school related during breaks. This is why we do not improve that much because breaks hold us down from learning or reading.

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I believe KIPP students are different from other public school students, because they have such a long day, for more days in the year. Some wake up really early and go to bed late doing nothing but school work all day. In the book it states, "A 5:45 wake up is fairly typical of KIPP students." Their normal wake up is different than most, not all. Also they get taught in an more explained way, like in math how they spent 20 minutes on one problem. They really want to get their students to fully understand what they are learning and don't care how long it takes.

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I agree with Gladwell's assertion that an extended school year would make students from urban schools more likely to succeed because in the chart they showed the wealthier kids were starting to get ahead of the poorer kids because they had lots of access to things such as books and they could go to summer camps where they would learn. The poorer kids didn't have access to these things so the wealthier kids would get ahead of the other kids. If we had longer school years then this would make it so the wealthier kids wouldn't get ahead as much and the poorer kids wouldn't forget as much. I think Marita did make the right decision because the chart showed that the poorer kids would fall behind the other kids and if she didn't go to the KIPP school then she may have been one of those kids that would have fell behind due to the fact that she was one of the poorer kids.

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KIPP students are different in a way that they have belief in those who are less fortunate than others. Other public schools prefer to focus on higher class as they think they have a better chance at succeeding. On page 257, the author includes, "Over the course of five years of elementary school, poor kids "out-learn" the wealthiest kids 189 points to 184 points. They lag behind the middle-class kids by only a modest amount, and, in fact, in one year, second grade, they learn more than the middle- or upper-class kids." Enforcing the fact that KIPP allows students to learn no matter their social standing, to have a chance at becoming successful.

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Do you agree or disagree with Gladwell’s assertion that an extended school year would make students from urban schools more likely to succeed? Also, Gladwell states that Marita made a bargain, and that it was a good bargain. Do you think Marita made the right decision to sign up for the KIPP school?

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(green) I think that KIPP students are somewhat similar to public school students. KIPP students learn more and have a longer school year, while public school students have a shorter year. KIPP students will probably be more educated because of the fact that they learn more and have more time to learn. KIPP students do learn at the same learning level as public school students, but they take it a lot more seriously.

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Are KIPP students different from other public school students? Being specific outline the differences and similarities. Support your answer

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In lines 95-‐115, from the details given, what conclusion does the author want you to draw about the Asian work ethic?

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In lines 387-‐395 the author repeats objections he has

voiced earlier to the measures often proposed to fix the American education system.

How does this repetition help the reader understand what the author believes is

important?