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I don't think it was really about being honorable. I feel like the tern honor is used ironically since here are all these senators hunting each other down and killing each other which accepting bribes and other things yet they wanna be honorable or consider themselves honorable

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I like how Tali and Alex used the same quote to represent different things in the story that supported different arguments.

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I agree with Alex that honor plays a big role in the play because it is honor that has driven people to extremes like Brutus who believed he had to prove his honor multiple times in the play. Antony uses Brutus's honor to help his cause of turning the crowd against the conspirators.

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Q6:

Tali made a great point about how evil acts cannot lead to a good outcome. She explained that throughout the play people were trying to justify their evil actions, but this did not lead to a good outcome for Rome.

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I agree with Tali that one message is that evil can never lead to a good outcome. Brutus tries his best to convince the public that his evil act was in good intentions, but it is just impossible to do that.

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I agree with Liliya that we never know when someone will stab us in the back.

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I really like the usage of Brutus' quote by Alex shows that honor was a really large scale thing throughout the play. Michael also chimed in stating that people that have honor in others eyes, will also have those peoples trust.

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I also agree with Tali that violence is never the only answer. Evil acts often just lead to more evil acts.

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I agree with Alex that being honorable one of the biggest parts in the play and being honorable pushes how you are seen and can impact you in many ways.

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I agree with Alex that honor is a major theme in this story

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Liliya makes good points on you need to be careful how you present yourself and how others might use that to their advantage and try to manipulate you.

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I agree with Lillya that we always have to watch our backs because we never know what someone is capable of.

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Q6-

Michael had a good answer with the loyalty part. He also stated the fact that Cinna and every other person in that play has a dark side. The fact that he could pull that out from the play was impressive

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Q6:

Luisa made a good point about how the problem of blame on others is present in current times and how it has led to many conflicts. Therefore, this is a lesson we need to learn.

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I agree with Micheal that loyalty is important and that loyalty to your country, your friends, whoever can lead to actions that seem too extreme like killing your best friend for the good of Rome

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I agree with Micheal that all the conspirators were loyal and inclusive to each other. I think that he was also correct that some of them were selfish at times but they were always loyal.

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I agree with Micheal that the message of the play is loyalty is everything. I think he is saying that being loyal decide your future.

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I agree with Michael that everyone has a dark side and this book dose a good job of showing how peoples dark sides can come out and that loyalty is very important

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Grace starts off with her idea of the theme, which I agree with. She says that people fall into the trap of desiring power and going as far as death to obtain it.

Luisa points out the flaw of scapegoating and how it connects to the play.

Michael brings up the good theme of loyalty throughout the play. He uses his position of Cinna effectively to show the meaning of inclusivness even when doing a seemingly evil act.

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I agree with Michael that loyalty is a message in the play, because many characters breaking their loyalty led to the tragedy of Caesar's and later Brutus's and Cassius's deaths.

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I agree with Luisa, if they weren't so eager to blame someone or scapegoat someone and that if they didn't do this then people could actually take time and correct themselves instead of saying someone else is the problem.

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I agree with michael that loyalty is very important and everyone has a side they prefer not to show but leaks out.

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I agree with Grace that Antony was trying to take power.

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I agree with Luisa on how she states that history somewhat can repeat itself.

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I agree with Graace that Antony tried to take advanatge of his power by taking money granted to citizens

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I agree with Graces point that power can be manipulative. The senate members all manipulated each other into joining their causes whether they were selfish or not.

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I agree with Grace's point that greed for power is prominent in this play and could be interpreted as a warning for how greed can negatively affect the actions of people who have strong friendships

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I agree with Grace that the selfish thirst for power was a big motive in this book. Why else would they worry so much about each others power when they weren't benefiting Rome all ready

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I agree with Grace that the want for power changed people and gave examples on how Antony completely changed as a character once he got the power he wanted and being greedy

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Q6-

I like Grace's interpretation as Caesar because she makes it known that Antony is not a good leader and emphasizes that he got way to ahead of himself when Caesar died.

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I agree with grace that the senate members manipulating each other and Cassius push Brutus to kill Caesar

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I agree with Grace when she says that power can be very manipulative. Due to power, Cassius was able to convince Brutus and also due to power, Antony was able to convince the plebeians that he was right and Brutus was wrong.

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I agree with grace that Antony became an unjust ruler and took money from the poor. And that we must control are greed with the increase of power

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Question 6: What is the message of this play for people of today? What should they learn from reading/ watching the tragedy?

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Question 6: What is the message of this play for people of today? What should they learn from reading/ watching the tragedy?

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I understand Petar's opinion that Calphurnia might have reasoning behind keeping Caesar home, but I don't think it is strong enough to overpower the glory of being queen.

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I disagree with Peter because Caesar was already expanding Rome and he had already gone off and fought in wars, like when he fought against Pompey so when Caesar was crowned king it would not affect her.

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I like Alex's responses because he speaks clearly and makes good solid points stating his ground as Brutus.

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I think that petars and Tali rebuttal to alex about Portia not passing the test that the stabbing was a sort of measure because Portia had asked before and Brutus never really payed attention and was very focused on himself

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I agree that if Calphurnia lied about the dream, that is not ethical.

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I agree with Alex that Portia used unethical ways to persuade Brutus into telling her the truth.

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Although Brutus should have told Portia what he was up to, the way Portia convinced Brutus to tell her was manipulative.

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I disagree with Alex's point that Portia stabbing herself in the leg is manipulative because although it was extreme, she was trying to prove that she could endure Brutus's secrets since she could endure the wound she inflicted onto herself.

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I like Alex's rebuttal towards Portia, was quite impressive

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I agree with Alex that Portia stabbing herself in the leg is a form of manipulation, because that puts Brutus into a guilt trip.

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Q5-

Though Michael answered with the wrong person, he made really solid quotes stating that the real Cinna didn't do anything better than any of the people within the play that he is up there with.

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Luisa did a good job of making sure everyone  was included in the conversation by addressing Peter as Portia and asking him what he thought about Portia passing the test or not

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I agree with Alex's point that Brutus did have to lie in order to kill Caesar (for the general good) which is dishonest, so he wouldn't pass that section of the T.A.R.E.S test. But does that mean that he didn't pass the test because being somewhat dishonest means that one's persuasion is entirely unethical? Could he have passed other parts of the test and still have passed?

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I agree with Grace and Liliya that Calphurnia would pass the TARES test because she shows all aspects needed to pass.

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I agree with Lillya that Calphurnia would pass the TARES test. I agree with her because Calphurnia did not manipulate anyone. In every action, she did it was to protect rather than gain for herself.

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Michael has the wrong guy

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Q5-

I like Tali's usage of the quote by Calphurnia because it shows that she is a good person. She still shouldn't be qualified to partake in the TARES test.

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I agree with Grace when she says Calphurnia would pass the test, since she told the truth and explained it in a caring way.

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Q5:
Tali brings up a good point about how Calphurnia was authentic with Caesar because she was willing to take the blame and she would not have been doing this for her benefit.

Luisa brings up a good point about Portia passing the T.A.R.E.S test, but however she had some manipulation in her persuasion by making Brutus feeling bad about himself as a husband.

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I agree with Grace that Calphurnia is the only character to pass the test, because her argument is so personal and authentic. She is begging him because she want this, not convincing him that he wants it.

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I agree with Grace that Caplurnia would pass since she only tells the truth an if Caesar listened a lot could have been prevented.

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While Luisa talks slowly to get to her point, she is effectively using quotes to show how Antony's methods of persuasion were unethical.

Alex shows how Brutus would not pass the test for betraying Caesar. He also showed how Antony was not ethical, which I agree with.

Calphurnia goes through the different sections of T.A.R.E.S by showing how her character was the most ethical

Grace adds to her point as Caesar to show how Calphurnia cared for Caesar.

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i agree with liliya that she is the only one to pass the test

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I agree with Liliya and Grace that Calphurnia would pass the test because she was reasonable when persuading Caesar to stay home and she had good reasons in doing so.

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I agree with alex that no one besides the minor charters like the wives would pass the TARES test, each character has has lied for their benefit(besides Calpurnia and Portia)

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I agree with Alex that betraying Caesar and lying for the good of Rome, I also agree with Lilia that Calphernia would pass the test because of her concerns for Caesar

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Q5:
I agree with Alex that none of the characters really pass the T.A.R.E.S test. Everyone did something in their persuasion to fail this test.

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I would agree with Luisa that Antony does not pass the TARES test

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I agree Luisa that Antony would not pass there TARES test because he has used manipulation and tactics agents people that would make him fail the test.

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I agree with Alex about how Octavius and Antony did not past the test because both betrayed and used manipulation

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I agree with Alex that all of the major characters wouldn't pass the TARES test, simply because this whole play is about manipulation and persuasion.

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Alex makes a solid point because stating that Calphurnia doesn't really deserve a spot within the TARES test. ]

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I agree with alex that most of the characters would defiantly not pass the TARES test.

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I agree with Luisa that Antony would not pass the test because he manipulated all of Rome into doing his dirty work of killing the conspirators.

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I agree with Luisa that Anthony's methods of persuasion were unethical. It resulted in the death of Cinna the Poet, who was an innocent man.

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I with Luisa that Antony would not pass the test because he used unethical ways to get what he wanted and giving an example of his manipulation of Anton's quote about letting it work

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I think luisa is right when she says that Antony would not pass the test

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I agree with Luisa's point on how Antony would not pass the TARES test due to him being a bit shady after his funeral speech.

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I agree with Luisa that Antony would not pass the TARES test because he is manipulative, dishonest, and unethical especially in his persuasion

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I agree with Luisa that her character was unethical when using manipulation especially in the funeral speech by talking about Caesars will and other parts of the speech

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I agree with Luisa that Antony would not pass the TARES test due to his mass manipulation of the public

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Luisa makes up a solid point because Antony really made it a statement to show his true colors and really didn't show how he was a good man.

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i agree with charlie that true friendship would not change over one argument

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Question 5: Would you or any other character pass the T.A.R.E.S. test for ethical persuasion?

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Question 5: Would you or any other character pass the T.A.R.E.S. test for ethical persuasion?

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Charlie keeps bringing up good points about the meaning of death and the thoughts of Brutus and his intentions when running into the sword

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The point that Charlotte made was interesting, bringing about the fact that Brutus made someone hold the knife that he ran into instead of stabbing himself. It brings up whether Brutus did die honorably.

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I agree with Lena that a true friend wouldn't have gone behind the other's back to help the common good. If they were true friends Brutus would've trusted Caesar to have a conversation on that.

I also feel that a true friend would at least try to find a way for their friend to survive, while still getting what they want.

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Charlotte, as Portia, uses the good example of how Brutus lied to her and led her to kill herself

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I also agree with maggie that true friends should trust each other and be able to talk disagreements out.

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Jack-

I agree with Charlie again that even in their rough times when they are not loyal they still feel for each other at their time of death.

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I agree with Charlie that you can mess up in a relationships but deep down you will still care about that person and true friends do exist

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2. I agree with Lena that friendships are not as they seem. She had used a great example of how Antony had used this death for a reason to kill others, and steal money from the plebeians. The death of Caesar had really changed Antony.

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Charlie continues to use quotes effectively to show how Brutus feels bad about killing Caesar. He is also speaking loud enough so I can actually hear him

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1. I agree with Charlie that he true friendship would not die over an argument and that Cassius and Brutus weren't true friends because their friendship had changed after that first argument.

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I agree with Lena that friendships are not what they seem at first. Antony does use Caesar's death to his advantage and uses it to get power that he never had before.

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Jack-

I agree with Charlie that none of the men are very loyal to each other. Even if they figured a disagreement.

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I agree with Lena and Maggie that the friendships were not perfect and often inconsistent.

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I agree with Lena that Brutus's relationship with Caesar wasn't very strong, because he just tried to rise to power right after killing him, without any mourning or sadness.

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I agree with Lena when she says that Antony used his will as leverage for himself and saying that she doesn't believe Antony was a true friend and you some friendships aren't what they seem

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- I agree with Owen that none of the main characters are truly trustworthy, and that they're all in unhealthy "friendships" with eachother.
- I thought that Lena made some interesting points as Caesar, and I really liked her argument that Antony wasn't a true friend to Caesar because once Caesar died, Antony immediatly got power hungry and began ruling in a way Caesar would not agree with

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I agree with Lena that friendships and relationships are often not as perfect as they may look.

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I agree with Charlie, I think that Brutus and Cassius friendship was real.

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I somewhat agree with Charlie, but I don't think any of the men were really that loyal to each other regardless of if they figured out one argument that they had

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I agree with Charlie's point that when Cassius and Brutus did argue, it was because Brutus is dealing with the death of Portia which he explains to Cassius. They reconcile. It does seem like they are true friends, but previous interactions could contradict that.

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Owen used a good point as the character of Antony and criticizes Antony's character as not a good friend to Lepidus

Charlie uses the example of Cassius's and Brutus's dispute which is a perfect example of what friendship means in the end

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I disagree with charlie. I don't believe that Brutus and cassius friendship is real.