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In Malaysia responsibility is split between changing set of ministries and no consistency in definition or data gathering

The data that there is has many problems

So there is no 'numbers story' to tell to government

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For example, benefits for young people and women

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Help CE practitioners to measure their impact

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Help CE practitioners to measure their impact

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Lack of data and lack of tools to use to collect Data.

A sector not organized with a national framework / strategy / laws ( still operated either under general arts law or commercial industries).

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Case studies of success in competitor neighbour countries can motivate governments

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For eg Indonesia more useful in terms of applicability to have case studies from similar neighbouring countries than from the UK where there are many differences of context

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Place of CE in environmentalism, eg traditional crafts

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Local partners to add locally specific content and have a knowledge of the interests of the local audience and other aspects of local context such as legal structures for enterprises. Add a country-specific 'flavour'

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In some countries relationships with CE policymakers are less developed, or have reduced because of changes in government. In these countries, policy-wise the goal is more likely to be equipping CE entrepreneurs to engage with policymakers rather than policymakers being part of the program.

In some places, there may be new policymakers who can be invited to join the programme

In other places there are well established policymakers who will play a full part in the programme alongside CE practitioners

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I also want to add a case study of taiwan and how the policy was driven from the bottum up by grassroot and practitioners. This kind of case study would be very interesting for us [Malaysia]

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Having attended the programme the next step for policymakers is to create a strategy.

Also for entrepreneurs the next step after the programme will often be to create a strategy

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UK experience of making use of data to demonstrate the impact of the CE. Lots to learn from UK approach

But need to recognise that data skills and data presentation skills may not be so high in other places

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Across MENA need a cadre of people who can localise and deliver the programme - and mentoring scheme for trainers

Local trainers have the role of 'translating' the Uk content for the local audience

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Can small competitive seed grants incentivise participants to apply or develop what they learned on the programme

possibly in groups, actually doing something

possibly around collecting data or producing local case studies to enrich the programme

possibly around developing local trainers to deliver the programme in future

around grass roots contribution to policy development

Small follow up grants are being piloted in Ukraine, to give capacity to build on the programme especially to small grass roots organisations

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In Ukraine, put national-level policy people in one group, regional people in another and another group for others

Now think there is a demand from beginners with a lower level of knowledge. For them they need language translation, and we have uploaded Ukrainian case studies.

But there is a great demand for local speakers

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To continue the discussions

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Participants to become future faculty members

Particiapants given grants to deliver local case studies / and speakers as programme grows and grows

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Creat closer links with HE community