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with that

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he was hopeless at that moment yes i agree

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If we dont forgive, we will never grow as a society

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AGREEEEEEEEED

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bye guys

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*closing thoughts*

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him hisself was hopeless though

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because in reality.. its not gonna be okay...things aren't gonna get better

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but i can say i got from that chunk he was a bit hopeless

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im not sure

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also he didnt comfort him

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he didnt baby him

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What emotion would you say he used?

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i believe he didn't want to feed his son with false hope

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how his son was crying , and he didnt comfort him

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he talks about

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He was being truthful with his son

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text

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In both text

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in Coates

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YES

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REPITIONNNNNNNNN

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both baldwin and coates want to get to their audience emotions to get them to listen and take in what they want them to understand about their reality in this world

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it does have an emotional appeal

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and in both texts

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they touched upon appealing to emotions

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yes

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as i just heard in the seminar

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Experience is another huge one

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so i believe his aggressive tone only comes naturally given the severity of the situation

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Why emotion does he use to explain his experience to inform the youth

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who? Baldwin or Coates or both?

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Explain why do you think tone is important

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right!

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because i would also feel frustrated and angry if my people are being killed day by day and fearing that me or my family are next

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Tone is a big one in this!!!

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yea since its been a long time that blacks were discriminated to

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so it makes sense that he is being slightly aggressive

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i agree!

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so by now whites should have gotten comfortable with blacks

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I agree

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but with coates its more like it's been years since a law was passed saying blacks are human beings

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so you think

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police brutality is contributed,black lives matter

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Can you clarify your question?

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on coates talking about the recent eventsśince

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Yea because like in the past it was like a time where it was normal to for most whites to discriminate blacks

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discussing about more of the history of racism and his experience would make a difference

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Baldwin what?

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DO you guys think Baldwin

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he can make it seem like it was such a horrible experince

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i have a discussion topic

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do you guys agree or no?

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he was being REAL

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and giving his son this type of tone

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Coates experienced a disturbed life as well

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you have to bring up his race in this as well, the letter and book was written a the black american audience in the united states and the timeline. right now black americans in this country are being murdered the people who are supposed to protect us.

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um for instance

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I agree, but I believe he uses an aggressive tone out of compassion for his younger youth to understand in reality no one isn't gonna speak to you with kindness

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he believes there probably wasn tanother way to inform  them

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Teach them what specifically ?

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teach them

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okay

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yea since with a tone

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AGREEEED

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and by publishing the letter in his book his son is forced to read it since its out for the world to see and it was written for him

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he was being real and blunt

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exactly

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Coates wasnt particularly mean

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between baldwin and coates

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i agree

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since when someone screams at you, its very likely you will pay attention to why they screaming

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oh

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What does Coates think he's gonna accomplish when you he speaks to the younger males with an aggressive tone?

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young males in today's day and age will not listen to you if you just come and speak in a soft tone

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explain that^

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i feel with an aggressive tone people are more likely to listen

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but in reality it was just dedicated to his son

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its not limited to only his son

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i totally agree with tha

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true true

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a book he wrote so EVERYONE can read them

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what do you guys think?

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the letter is part of a book

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creates this idea of males being the ones who should be tough

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because no females are talked about in the letters

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in this situation... both of them

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What do you think the younger males can incorporate with being informed with an aggressive tone?

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what about females?

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what makes you think its only males

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s

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that being his family or others who share the same ideas\

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so not only will his son read it because he wrote it for him but so will other people

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how would you describe doviety contribution to shaping males?

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but why only males?

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they adressed the males for a reason

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for a chance would they wrote to a female family member as well?

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i believe in this situation

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Because they both talk to a male family member