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Developments in science and industry during the Victorian era created a vast array of styles and fabrics which women could coordinate with the rest of their out fits. Since pockets returned in the 1840s, women continued to carry purses and spend a lot of time making them show off for potential husbands. often putting the date and their own initials on their bags. in 1843, there were nearly 2000 miles of railway lines of bags in Great Britain. Many people traveled by train and may women became more mobile, and soon they term hand-bag emerged to describe thye these new hand-held luggage bags.

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Eighteen hundreds bags In the eighteen hundreds people where against under wears and pockets and they thought it was ridiculous.

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My mother found this bag at a garage sale, It looks art deco to me, but I haven't really dealt with accessories from this time period. Was thinking it was possibly 20s ? It came with a lot of paper work, checks, bank books, receipts, address book, poll tax receipt; some of the items are dated 1931 and 1932. Was hoping I could get help with description and dating. Many thanks !

oh, what a treasure!!

i think a purse similar to this was posted recently....those are Arts & Crafts/Art Nouveau era design elements

that is COOL. congratulations!

Thanks !
I don't know if the documents are of value but I think I'll include them.

It reminds me of a purse from that movie 'Ironweed', that movie makes me sob for days but its so beautiful !

Wanted to add the pull on the frame top is labeled ' TURNLOC '

What a wonderful find! I think it is very early '30's and the items you found in it are contemporaneous - probably from the original buyer. There are similar bags featured in the Sear's Everyday Fashions Book - and I'm pretty sure in "Collectible Fashions of the Turbulent Thirties" - but I'll have to get the book out and look.

At a garage sale no less! LOVELY!

I think the purse is older than the dates on the documents. I believe these are from about the 1910 period...very Arts & Crafts movement, tooled leather. Lovely and wonderful to get the added bonus of the old documents.

Thank you for sharing!

Lovely bag! Is there a maker's name imprinted on it anywhere? This with the green lining reminds me of a well-known maker of this style of bag (but I'm brain lapsing this a.m. because I can't remember the name!). I think it pre-dates the documents as well, but by how much I have little idea.

I also believe it to be earlier, though I don't know just how much earlier. Looks like it served right through the Depression years, admirably.

I have a somewhat similar one, (obtained via a swap) that has some markings inside. Can't recall at the moment; perhaps the name that Anne is thinking of. I will look and report back in.

Mine is Meeker, made in Joplin Missouri, of Genuine Steerhide.

Here is a neat page with a lot of these types of purses pictured:
http://www.morninggloryantiques.com/collectPursesAC.html

Yours is the cyclamen pattern one, scroll down a bit, to the right, and it is dated 1920 there.

And here is mine. I love it, and it has a lot of compartments, in a compact space:

Teens to very early 20s. These tooled leather purses with the frames were quite popular then with Arts and Crafts and Art Nouveau motifs. They held up well, as you still see them today in pretty good shape. A frugal gal in a smaller city would have carried this right on through the Depression.

Are you thinking Jemco? That was a maker name from the era.

Joules, your is lovely and with the nylon lining, I would guess 50s?

Hollis

Hollis, I don't know. This is not my area, but I do think it is older. The nylon thing throws me too, as Nylon was introduced in the late 30s.

In the link above, Jemco is named as a maker of the hardware, as is Turnloc.

I'm not sure what brand the bag under discussion is, but Meeker produced a lot of the purses! (They closed in 1987.)
http://www.bagladyemporium.com/blu/index.php?n=Main.MeekerCo

I read a little bit more about these bags this morning and learned that they continued to be popular into the 1930's - going out of fashion about 1935. The later bags were often machine tooled. I read that the patent number was often embossed on the frame of the purse. Looking through a few sources, I feel that the C. 1920's date is correct for your bag but this style - particularly in machine tooled versions could be found with Art Nouveau motifs well into the '30's.

Here's a 1928 ad for a hand-tooled leather bag with a suede lining and Turnloc clasp. Too bad we can't see the details of the design!

Fabulous find!

Linn is correct. It is a little confusing when the Art Nouveau style is usually referred to as ending c1918. The style elements of Art Nouveau however were used in the 1930's and I came across a reference online to a chapter in Evelyn Haertig's book 'More Beautiful Purses' - 'Art Nouveau Leather Bags, all American made, including photos of the bags being made by both men and women in American factories. Art Nouveau leather purses, the 'day purse' of choice, and popular for 15 years, 1915-1930.' There is also a Denver Jeweler's Buying Guide 1932 which shows Mastercraft Handbags. Just google either or both.

So, I think this handbag or purse is in keeping with the dated contents. Always nice to have that.

Yes, that is what I was saying, the bag in question appears to be from 1920.

It's obvious that my bag is of a later date, though I'm not sure just what year it is. My purpose was to speculate as to the maker, and thereby lead to further clues, which it did. The identical bag is pictured in the first link posted, above, I do believe.

From a 1927 Sears, Roebuck catalog - an almost identical bag, with Art Nouveau decoration and Turn-Loc frame:

I would have initially dated this earlier too, because of the distinctly Art Nouveau-style decoration, but this proves again that it was a style that remained popular - and in fashion - for some time.

Karin

Thank you Midge! Great ad - so these certainly went on well into the 20s.

Oh - here's a thought. Would it be most likely that in general, receipts, etc. date the last few times the bag was used, before it was put away rather than when it was bought?

Hollis

These bags were made into the '30's and were popular until about 1935 - according to "Collectible Fashions of the Turbulent '30's." I think this one is from the late '20's - it's very similar to the one in the ad that Midge showed and and that I found. (There's a whole page of them in the Everyday Fashions of the 1930's Sear's catalog on the 1930 page.)

I think it's possible that the things that were stored in it are from the last time it was used - or maybe someone put them there to preserve them at a latter date (?) Except for the lining the bag is in fabulous condition so it may have been used for 5+ years or more and then put away.

It's a wonderful find!

No doubt true Linn, and that's great to know.

The OP's bag is identical (aside from condition), to the one shown in the eighth row down, on the right:
http://www.morninggloryantiques.com/collectPursesAC.html

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My mother found this bag at a garage sale, It looks art deco to me, but I haven't really dealt with accessories from this time period. Was thinking it was possibly 20s ? It came with a lot of paper work, checks, bank books, receipts, address book, poll tax receipt; some of the items are dated 1931 and 1932.

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Bianca 1980s - 1990s Vera Bradley handbag 

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Bianca 1980s - 1990s Vera Bradley handbag 

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Sixteenth and seventeenth century Rather than wear girdle pouches outside on their belt, women began to wear their pouches under their skirts, and men would wear pockets (called “bagges”) made of leather inside their breeches. travelers might wear large satchel-like leathers or cloth bags diagonally across the body. Since hygiene was lacking during that time, aristocrats used sweet bagges, bags filled with sweet materials. Toward the end of the century, purses became increasingly sophisticated, moving from a simple drawstring design to more complex shapes and materials.

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Bianca: 1980s Prada black nylon knapsack

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Bianca: 1980s Prada black nylon knapsack

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Handbags in 1900 to 1920 became much more than just hand luggage. There different types of bags for women like, the Dorothy bags which are now called dotty or marriage bags. They were fitted leather bags that had a telescopic opera glasses and a folding fan attached. Usually women that worked wore larger handbags that could be worn around the should, such as the boulevard bag, leather shopping bags, and even briefcases. The most important development during this time period was the "pochette", which is a type bag without a handle. It is often decorated with dazzling geometric and jazz motifs. In this time period rules for color coordination grew lax and novelty bags, such as doll bags became popular. The discovery of King Tutankhamun’s tomb in 1923 inspired Egyptomania and purses began to reflect exotic motifs (Wilcox 1999).

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My mother found this bag at a garage sale, It looks art deco to me, but I haven't really dealt with accessories from this time period. Was thinking it was possibly 20s ? It came with a lot of paper work, checks, bank books, receipts, address book, poll tax receipt; some of the items are dated 1931 and 1932. Was hoping I could get help with description and dating. Many thanks !

oh, what a treasure!!

i think a purse similar to this was posted recently....those are Arts & Crafts/Art Nouveau era design elements

that is COOL. congratulations!

Thanks !
I don't know if the documents are of value but I think I'll include them.

It reminds me of a purse from that movie 'Ironweed', that movie makes me sob for days but its so beautiful !

Wanted to add the pull on the frame top is labeled ' TURNLOC '

What a wonderful find! I think it is very early '30's and the items you found in it are contemporaneous - probably from the original buyer. There are similar bags featured in the Sear's Everyday Fashions Book - and I'm pretty sure in "Collectible Fashions of the Turbulent Thirties" - but I'll have to get the book out and look.

At a garage sale no less! LOVELY!

I think the purse is older than the dates on the documents. I believe these are from about the 1910 period...very Arts & Crafts movement, tooled leather. Lovely and wonderful to get the added bonus of the old documents.

Thank you for sharing!

Lovely bag! Is there a maker's name imprinted on it anywhere? This with the green lining reminds me of a well-known maker of this style of bag (but I'm brain lapsing this a.m. because I can't remember the name!). I think it pre-dates the documents as well, but by how much I have little idea.

I also believe it to be earlier, though I don't know just how much earlier. Looks like it served right through the Depression years, admirably.

I have a somewhat similar one, (obtained via a swap) that has some markings inside. Can't recall at the moment; perhaps the name that Anne is thinking of. I will look and report back in.

Mine is Meeker, made in Joplin Missouri, of Genuine Steerhide.

Here is a neat page with a lot of these types of purses pictured:
http://www.morninggloryantiques.com/collectPursesAC.html

Yours is the cyclamen pattern one, scroll down a bit, to the right, and it is dated 1920 there.

And here is mine. I love it, and it has a lot of compartments, in a compact space:

Teens to very early 20s. These tooled leather purses with the frames were quite popular then with Arts and Crafts and Art Nouveau motifs. They held up well, as you still see them today in pretty good shape. A frugal gal in a smaller city would have carried this right on through the Depression.

Are you thinking Jemco? That was a maker name from the era.

Joules, your is lovely and with the nylon lining, I would guess 50s?

Hollis

Hollis, I don't know. This is not my area, but I do think it is older. The nylon thing throws me too, as Nylon was introduced in the late 30s.

In the link above, Jemco is named as a maker of the hardware, as is Turnloc.

I'm not sure what brand the bag under discussion is, but Meeker produced a lot of the purses! (They closed in 1987.)
http://www.bagladyemporium.com/blu/index.php?n=Main.MeekerCo

I read a little bit more about these bags this morning and learned that they continued to be popular into the 1930's - going out of fashion about 1935. The later bags were often machine tooled. I read that the patent number was often embossed on the frame of the purse. Looking through a few sources, I feel that the C. 1920's date is correct for your bag but this style - particularly in machine tooled versions could be found with Art Nouveau motifs well into the '30's.

Here's a 1928 ad for a hand-tooled leather bag with a suede lining and Turnloc clasp. Too bad we can't see the details of the design!

Fabulous find!

Linn is correct. It is a little confusing when the Art Nouveau style is usually referred to as ending c1918. The style elements of Art Nouveau however were used in the 1930's and I came across a reference online to a chapter in Evelyn Haertig's book 'More Beautiful Purses' - 'Art Nouveau Leather Bags, all American made, including photos of the bags being made by both men and women in American factories. Art Nouveau leather purses, the 'day purse' of choice, and popular for 15 years, 1915-1930.' There is also a Denver Jeweler's Buying Guide 1932 which shows Mastercraft Handbags. Just google either or both.

So, I think this handbag or purse is in keeping with the dated contents. Always nice to have that.

Yes, that is what I was saying, the bag in question appears to be from 1920.

It's obvious that my bag is of a later date, though I'm not sure just what year it is. My purpose was to speculate as to the maker, and thereby lead to further clues, which it did. The identical bag is pictured in the first link posted, above, I do believe.

From a 1927 Sears, Roebuck catalog - an almost identical bag, with Art Nouveau decoration and Turn-Loc frame:

I would have initially dated this earlier too, because of the distinctly Art Nouveau-style decoration, but this proves again that it was a style that remained popular - and in fashion - for some time.

Karin

Thank you Midge! Great ad - so these certainly went on well into the 20s.

Oh - here's a thought. Would it be most likely that in general, receipts, etc. date the last few times the bag was used, before it was put away rather than when it was bought?

Hollis

These bags were made into the '30's and were popular until about 1935 - according to "Collectible Fashions of the Turbulent '30's." I think this one is from the late '20's - it's very similar to the one in the ad that Midge showed and and that I found. (There's a whole page of them in the Everyday Fashions of the 1930's Sear's catalog on the 1930 page.)

I think it's possible that the things that were stored in it are from the last time it was used - or maybe someone put them there to preserve them at a latter date (?) Except for the lining the bag is in fabulous condition so it may have been used for 5+ years or more and then put away.

It's a wonderful find!

No doubt true Linn, and that's great to know.

The OP's bag is identical (aside from condition), to the one shown in the eighth row down, on the right:
http://www.morninggloryantiques.com/collectPursesAC.html

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My mother found this bag at a garage sale, It looks art deco to me, but I haven't really dealt with accessories from this time period. Was thinking it was possibly 20s ? It came with a lot of paper work, checks, bank books, receipts, address book, poll tax receipt; some of the items are dated 1931 and 1932.

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By the early 1990s, small designer bags with giant Hs and CCs were all over London & New York, and only

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By 1930s, most of the bags we now use in our ordinary life were already invented. The bags used in the 1930s were created in the Art Deco style which showed abstractions and new industrials materials such as plastic and zippers.

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1980s and 1990s

In the 1980s There was a big influence in the health and fitness sports bags because of the greater production of sportive accessories. Later on bags were designed for order and control when the technology introduced the calculator and Filofax.

In 1985 Miuccia Prada introduced the first unisex bag called black nylon knapsack.

In 1980 the sales reached over 1 million dollars in just three years for a classic handbag (Vera Bradley, one of the brightest starts in the 1980)

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21st century:

Nowadays, bags come in many shapes and styles with different colors and designs. Even men these days have purses known as "man-purses." You can get many customizations such as an over-the-shoulder, a clutch, a drawstring, a duffel, a wristlet, a crossbody, and a tote. Some bags have pockets inside and out. Designers these days have picked up the trend of transparent materials, which can show the contents of the bag. These days people keep wallets, their phones, makeup, credit cards, money, keys, tissues, notebooks, pens, and even food and drinks in their bags!

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The girdle is a belt that they used during the mediates. To carry their keys and rosaries book of hours, pomanders, chatelaine and daggers. It was practically a bag hanging of a belt

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1970 has a pit the same like what we have today they had

Zippers and pockets and we have more pockets zippers than them they only have one