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Red Tornado VS Vision
They meet at an android convention. Vision was shoving C3PO around and Red Tornado didnt like it.... so they took it outside.
Win by KO only
No BFR
Morals on
No prep but they've had 30mins to search on wikipedia about the other persons powers
Fight takes place in central park
Start off 100m away from each other.

(sorry no pics, my laptops playing up and refuses to insert them)

Who wins?

If Vision goes intangible what can Red tornado do? And since they are both robots i guess they wouldn't have much morals about disabeling one another. So i guess Vision wins because he can Phase into RT but i don't know how RT can hurt Vision.

i've seen Red Tornado be destroyed too many times to put too much faith in him, Vision wins

Also leaning toward Vision due to his density control.

Don't really see what either could do to the other. RT is undoubtly more powerful but Vision has intangibity which would make his attacks pointless. RT could turn invisible to counter that, speedblitz Vision at the start of the match or catch a tangible Vision in his winds that even Power Girl couldnt break free of. Vision cant harm RT either he can currently reapir himself instantly, if RT choose to go invisible what could Vision do and Visions eye beams would be useless as Red Tornado's airshields have deflected Supermans heat vision, Martian Manhunter's force vision ect. Overall I say RT has a greater shot of taking this match...

I think it's a stalemate.

@Or35ti said:

I think it's a stalemate.

Whats to stop Vision from flying into his head and ripping out his brain?

You cant hit what you cant see plus Rt has greater reaction speed than Vision by a long shot...

I still don't see how Vision wins...The OP states that they get insight to the others powers, so an immediate counter to Visions intangiblity would be RT spinning fast enough to turn go invisible for as long as he desires. Then what would Vision do? Red Tornado can react(and move) alot faster than Vision and could potentially tag Vision before he became intangible or simply use his speed and the fact that he's freaking invisible to avoid all Visions attacks. The Vision is not invisible while intangible and in his intangible state Vision does not move very fast at all he isnt laying finger on RT. That could possibly lead to Vision being forced to fight tangible in which case he cant win either, his beams would be easily deflected(no diffrent than how Superman's heat vision was) and the OP states that win only by KO which RT is perfectly capable of doing while Visions two top offensive attacks would be completely ineffective. This either an Red Tornado win or stalemate according to if Vision would remain intangible the entire fight...

Red Tornado was on the JLA for a while. Don't underestimate him. he holds his own for sure, with the Big Guys. Batman has said that he has technology far beyond anything he has seen, he felt like "caveman pounding on a microchip". he has untapped power and technology. He has created winds that have ripped Solomon Grundy in half. I think RT takes it... but it would be an interesting fight.

@YoungGunna: Current Vision is a suit if armour made from tech from the 40th century. He is more powerful then he was before his death. He can also short out machinery by phasing through it. He can also scan the area to locate Red Tornado, even if RT did go invisible. What can RT do to Vision short of a speed blitz?

After reading both on wikipedia, I see they both have the same level of power and abilities, except The Vision has his solar ray and phasing. So i suppose The Vision may take this win... though the self repairing would make the battle last a long time.

@iamthewolf88: Vision can short out other technology when he phases through it (he did it to Iron Man in Civil War). Would RT's self-repairing cope with that?

"The Vision has the ability to alter his density at will. He can become light enough to fly and phase through objects and people or become extraordinarily heavy and make his body nearly impenetrable. The crystal on his forehead called a solar cell emits different levels of radiation. One of the Vision's signature moves is to phase into someone and then increase his density, a process he describes as "physical disruption." This causes the person under attack massive amounts of pain and can result in incapacitation. Vision is also capable of interfacing with outside technology and self-repair. The new Vision possesses all of these abilities, as well as the powers of Iron Lad's neurokinetic armor, such as holographic and energy manipulation, shape shifting, and time travel."

I really didn't know red tornado was that powerful... I def won't underestimate him like that anymore I initially came here thinking vision got this but now I think it's a draw good fight now that I know rt powers

Vision has a huge array of abilities to give him the upper hand- density contorl , intangibility, durability, his gem fires off some kind of energy beam (I'm not an expert but in the comics that I've read with them as supporting characters Vision Wins)

Red Torando whoops the vison yea

Vision wins. Only version of Red Tornado that is enough to take on Vision is Amazo Red Tornado.

The setup is hilarious - Vision takes this

Wind elemental or na

red tornado can win

Vision. Too versatile

Vision destroys

Vision annihilates

Vision

Just a bit too much

Vision is a bad match up for Tornado

When was it that Vision like soloed the avengers or something, and CV blew up for a week?

Good times

I suspect Red Tornado has faster reaction time than Vision; if so, it's possible he could buffet his android counterpart about, and eventually tear him apart before The Vision could mount any kind of counterattack...

However, that's highly speculative. If they both attack at around the same time, I'm not sure how either could affect the other...

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Moviegoers and TV lovers have gotten well-acquainted with both Marvel's Hawkeye and DC's Green Arrow. The former plays a supporting part in the MCU, often there to help his fellow Avengers while rarely taking the spotlight. The latter arrived on TV when Arrow premiered in 2013, paving the way for The CW's superhero line-up, which includes The Flash, Supergirl, Black Lightning and Legends of Tomorrow. But while these two archery-loving characters can seem a bit similar on the surface, they each carry their own histories and backstories.

But who is better, so to speak? It's an argument that has only grown in recent years with the public becoming more and more away of each arrow-loving character. There's a lot of support for both characters from both sides of the party. Until the day comes when Disney buys out DC (a prospect that seems slightly more possible with each day), we won't know for certain outside of fan-fiction who would win this hypothetical fight. Nevertheless, through what we know about the characters and their respective histories, we can take an educated guess to see who would win if they were forced to face off against each other.

DC's Green Arrow

Oliver Queen, the sometimes-secret identity of the Green Arrow, is a masked vigilante of the streets, loosely in the vein of Daredevil and Batman, who takes to fighting crime on a gritty, low-level playing field. Similar to Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne, he got his start in a privileged world as the son of a billionaire corporate dynasty who would rather spend his days partying than being productive. Oliver's father is ashamed of his son's behavior, and he's made to do clerical work in an oil rig. This results in Oliver finding an exotic place to party, where he soon faces a terrorist leader with only a bow and arrow.

Under his father's tutelage, Oliver Queen became adept with a bow and arrow at a young age, which led to few advantages up until that point in his life. Those early days were met with tragedy, though, as the terrorist he fought was armed with deadly explosives. One such explosive was attached to his girlfriend, Leena, and in Oliver's attempt to save his love, he accidentally activated the explosion, blowing up half the rig and killing his girlfriend in the process.

Oliver's life was saved, but it came at a grave cost. He was forced to live with only his bow and arrow as a means of survival after washing up on the shore of a deserted island, became a skilled expert in archery in the process. After coming back to the mainland, he found himself in Gotham, needing to save his mother. Oliver was able to get some assistance from Batman, but it was one of the first times Green Arrow was able to save the day. From there, Green Arrow started to build up his confidence, as well as his desire to save the people of Star City.

Additionally, Green Arrow continued building his skillset and arrow arsenal, fighting on a street level and defeating as many villains and henchmen as possible. While he is skilled in other fields, like martial arts, stealth, and acrobatics, Green Arrow wields no actual superpowers, though he sometimes surrounds himself by people who have them.

A varied take on Green Arrow's journey was chronicled in the hit CW series, Arrow, which premiered in 2013. It's set to conclude after its eighth season, which premieres this fall. (This season is part of a "Crisis on Infinite Earths" crossover events centered around the other DC superhero characters on The CW.)

Marvel's Hawkeye

Considered Earth's Mightiest Marksman, Clint Barton's Hawkeye is known not only for his mastery of archery, but also his devil-may-care personality mixed with an undying heroic spirit. He is also known for his ability to hit any target, which is certainly an admirable trait. Similar to Green Arrow, Clint's early days were painted by tragedy. Orphaned from a young age, Clint and his brother Barney escaped their oppressive orphanage by running away to the circus called The Carson Carnival of Traveling Wonders. It was while part of the circus that Clint learned his trade at bow and arrow, but upon discovering criminal activities happening there, Clint was beaten when he alerted the authorities.

From there, Clint Barton was separated from both his brother and his apprenticeship, but he continued to hone his skills in archery. Adopting the name of Hawkeye, he continued on the circus circuit in search of his purpose in life. Upon seeing Iron Man fighting in action, however, Hawkeye decided he would also become a superhero of a kind, using his archery skills to help people in need. But those heroic origins came with a rough start, as Hawkeye was accused of being a criminal. From there, Hawkeye found himself connecting with Black Widow, then clashing with Iron Man.

Similar to Green Arrow, Hawkeye is a very skilled marksman who knows how to handle himself in hand-to-hand combat without super powers, and can be considered a living weapon. Hawkeye doesn't have everything it takes to defeat the bigger foes. Through his eventful team up with The Avengers, however, Clint Barton finally found the family and stability that alluded him throughout his rough-and-tumble life in the comics.

The character has made several appearances in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, starting with his cameo in 2011's Thor. He made his first major role in the proceedings with The Avengers, then continued to be seen in future Avengers films, including Avengers: Age of Ultron and Avengers: Endgame. It was recently revealed that Hawkeye will finally get his time in the spotlight with his own Disney+ streaming series, Hawkeye, starring Jeremy Renner.

Green Arrow Vs. Hawkeye

When it comes to shooting arrows, it's hard to determine exactly who is the better of the two. They're both virtuosos with the weapons, and it's through their bows and arrows that Hawkeye and Green Arrow have been able to find their purposes in life while surviving under extreme conditions. But where archery is concerned, Hawkeye is perhaps the stronger of the two. It's not by any large stretch, of course, but Hawkeye likely boasts the more consistent accuracy. He's known as the man who doesn't miss, a distinction that wasn't given lightly to him. If a bow and arrow's in hand, Hawkeye's ready to go.

But when it comes to actual fisticuffs, Green Arrow might have the advantage. Through his martial arts skill and stealth fighting, Green Arrow knows how to handle himself, and he doesn't ever go down without a brutal fight. What he might lack in projectile consistency when compared to Hawkeye, he certainly makes up in agility and the ability to punch someone's face in. Hawkeye is a bit more singular in his fighting style, and that'll hurt more than it'll help in this hypothetical battle.

Additionally, Green Arrow might be more equipped to handle himself without any back-up, since he is known for his solo fighting skills. Hawkeye, meanwhile, is more often than not fighting alongside the Avengers and working as a team player. That is not to say that Hawkeye can't handle himself in a one-on-one. Plus, Green Arrow does sometimes work with a smaller team, as well with the Justice League. So, it's not as though Green Arrow is always by himself. But in the general scheme of things, we've gotten a better taste at what Green Arrow can do on his own compared to Hawkeye, giving him the advantage there.

Additionally, while Green Arrow arrow skills number more than just basic consistency. In Robin Hood fashion, Green Arrow can shoot upwards of 29 arrows at the same time, and that's a skill that can certainly produce excellent results, and often with flair. It should also be noted, however, that Hawkeye also uses a variety of arrows. So, while he might not be able to shoot as many as Green Arrow, it only takes one of his to really count. And if he has the right arrow with the right powers, he can do some serious damage with a lone projectile.

In the end, it is again hard to say which hero is better, because their shared sense of humanity and grounded perspectives are crucial in worlds filled with superhero musclemen like Superman and Captain America. In the end, however, the point might have to tip toward Green Arrow. While Hawkeye could possibly shoot the right arrow and defeat his opponent more times than not, the optics suggest that Green Arrow is more capable to handle any situation in a general sense. He's able to adapt to different fighting styles if he sees fit, and never allows failure to be an option. That determination and skill might just be enough to push him over the edge.

Do you agree or disagree with us? We're sure you have an opinion, one way or the other. You can let us know what you think in the poll and comments below.

Who Would Win: Hawkeye or Green Arrow?

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Who win's

The Punisher

or

The Red Hood/Jason Todd

Well Jason's got the whole ninja skills on his side, but Punisher... he's just quicker to end things. I think Punisher would take this.

Hmm, I never was into Batman but the idea of Jason Todd is intriguing. maybe it;s the fact that the same person who created Jason was the same person who created Frank Castle~Gerry Conway. I'd love to see Garth Ennis' take on the Jason Todd character, it's just the fact he was killed so gruesomely and blames Batman for keeping the Joker alive that I don't really want to see a Punisher fight. Maybe a slight skirmish, but I'd love to see how they would team up and work together. I think Ennis would really make Batman look bad if he was given a chance to write him. The concept of keeping Joker alive makes absolutely no sense\, but to continue the franchise. In real life the clown would have been sent to see Jesus Christ along time ago.

Jason would win if he had the element of surprise. But, in a straight fight, I see Frank winning. But it would be close.

As much as I love Frank, Jason Todd has Batman's skills and the will the to kill. A murderous Batman would be damn near unstoppable so you can imagine what murderous Batman-Lite will be like. Red Hood will kill the Punisher because he is not going to fall for any of Frank's feints or tricks.

Gun fight maybe Castle
Hand to hand Todd would take it

Jason wins this in my opinion because Batman's training. Batman has to deal with gun wielders all of the time, so he has trained to fight them. He trains Jason, who not only now can efficiently deal with gun toting foes, but also has guns of his own. His martial arts training included makes him too much for Frank to handle in my opinion

Jason Todd as the Hood when he was still cool? He takes it.

This Red Hood loses.

Jason slaughterhouse.

Frank wins this. While Jason and Frank are both equally screwed up in the head and not afraid to kill, Frank has more experience in combat as well as being a lot more well rounded. Frank is an expert h2h combatant, and i even think that he is now a meta-human now beyond peak human conditioning. So he could definitely AT THE LEAST hold his own against Jason in a close quarters fight, especially since he always carries a few edged weapons on him, and he is an excellent knife fighter as well. He is an expert as a sniper, demonlitions, and a tactical fighting genius.

@AworkofArt123:
The OP did not say that this is Frankencastle. Frank Castle is very much human.

@erik said:

" @AworkofArt123: The OP did not say that this is Frankencastle. Frank Castle is very much human. "
Even peak human Frank I think would take this.

@AworkofArt123 said:

" @erik said:

" @AworkofArt123: The OP did not say that this is Frankencastle. Frank Castle is very much human. "
Even peak human Frank I think would take this. "
I am almost certain Frank is olympic level, not peak. I need to see his bio again.

@erik said:

"Jason Todd as the Hood when he was still cool? He takes it.

This Red Hood loses.

"

That's an oddly shaped mask...

Punisher has the guns
Jason has the brains and fighting skills.

jason would win

FTW

If it becomes nothing more than a gunfight or a hunt. Punisher wins.
In H2H, Red Hood wins.

Frank takes this
even if Jason manages to get close (where he gets the advantage),i can see Frank finding an oppening to shoot him in the head,last time he and Bucky engaged in close combat,Frank had a gun aiming at Bucky's head,plus he is good enough to match Jason for a while
i am not saying Frank is a better fighter than Jason,i am saying that Frank knows how to beat better fighters in close combat

@Matezoide said:

" Frank takes this even if Jason manages to get close (where he gets the advantage),i can see Frank finding an oppening to shoot him in the head,last time he and Bucky engaged in close combat,Frank had a gun aiming at Bucky's head,plus he is good enough to match Jason for a whilei am not saying Frank is a better fighter than Jason,i am saying that Frank knows how to beat better fighters in close combat "
since you metioned it, I didn`t want to do it but i enjoyed your Mario pic so much so i`m about to do it,

In other words this is what will happen : )

Frank, FTW

Jason Todd he has his training from Bruce, The League, and multiple ex military merc factions around the world he's got it all. And can bust Dick Grayson up some

Definitely Jason. His skills with a firearm are amazing, albeit not quite the level of Frank's, but who are we kidding? Jason would not win this fight with a bullet. He would get in close and end it there. Frank is an excellent H2H fighter as well, but he's not on Jason's level. Jason wins via Batman's training.

If Jason has the element of surprise, it's not even close.

@American Dragon said:

" @Matezoide said:

" Frank takes this even if Jason manages to get close (where he gets the advantage),i can see Frank finding an oppening to shoot him in the head,last time he and Bucky engaged in close combat,Frank had a gun aiming at Bucky's head,plus he is good enough to match Jason for a whilei am not saying Frank is a better fighter than Jason,i am saying that Frank knows how to beat better fighters in close combat "
since you metioned it, I didn`t want to do it but i enjoyed your Mario pic so much so i`m about to do it,

In other words this is what will happen : )

Frank, FTW "
This... He does what Joker should of did to this snot nose brat years ago

Ok stupid question is it true that Frank is the Avatar of Death or was Knoshu just talking crap?

@Matezoide said:

" Frank takes this even if Jason manages to get close (where he gets the advantage),i can see Frank finding an oppening to shoot him in the head,last time he and Bucky engaged in close combat,Frank had a gun aiming at Bucky's head,plus he is good enough to match Jason for a whilei am not saying Frank is a better fighter than Jason,i am saying that Frank knows how to beat better fighters in close combat "
I know it's an old post but Frank is a better fighter.

Gotta give it to Castle...He's more ruthless.

The Punisher.........

Frank's more of a gunfighter, Todd just seems to use guns for his particularly brutal methods. Still, i'd say due to his background and training, Todd would win.

@progenitor:
And Punisher's Background and training is nothing compared to Todd's?

@crmidnight:
its more, hes a war hero been round sence viatnam. hes got iny oficer an military training u can think og. give him anything he can use it make it a wepon an he will anhilate with it an Hood well he will play brutal but Frank simply is.

@614azrael:
Plus, he's fought powerful super heroes/ villians, ie: Spidey, Wolverine, Daken, Sentry, etc.

What background? being a failure and the second worse fighter of the Robins?

Frank has dodged bullets multiple times and has proven himself to be superior to Jason Todd.

punisher wins

@geraldthesloth said:

" @Matezoide said:

" Frank takes this even if Jason manages to get close (where he gets the advantage),i can see Frank finding an oppening to shoot him in the head,last time he and Bucky engaged in close combat,Frank had a gun aiming at Bucky's head,plus he is good enough to match Jason for a whilei am not saying Frank is a better fighter than Jason,i am saying that Frank knows how to beat better fighters in close combat "
I know it's an old post but Frank is a better fighter. "
really? i always thought Jason was better.....damn,i need to read more DC :P

Gear? Location?

@Matezoide: He isn't, Jason is at least on par with Nightwing and close to Batman in terms of H2H he's top tier, I would give it to Frank in a gun fight but in fist cuffs Jason would beat Franks @ss all over the place. The most skilled fighter I have ever seen Frank beat was US Agent and he's been written as a joke for most of his career.

@FinalStar86:
Do you have scans of Todd VS Grayson? I'm very behind in Batman and I'm currently at the "Under the Red Hood" time period, lol. So, I have a lot to read before I "catch up".

@FinalStar86:
Because so far, I've only seen them "encounter" once. They basically had one-counter and then it ended (so the quickest stalemate ever)

@k4tzm4n said:

" @FinalStar86: Do you have scans of Todd VS Grayson? I'm very behind in Batman and I'm currently at the "Under the Red Hood" time period, lol. So, I have a lot to read before I "catch up". "
The only scans I can come up with today are from BFTC, there was another fight in the TItans series which I will have to check my stash for. Also by scans I mean choppy cell phone pics but you can make out what is going on.

@FinalStar86:
I'd appreciate anything you have. I'm new to the character, but so far I like him.

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Who win's The Punisher or The Red Hood/Jason Todd Well Jason's got the whole ninja skills on his side, but Punisher... he's just quicker to end things. I think Punisher would take this. Hmm, I never was into Batman but the idea of Jason Todd is intriguing.

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the two smallest members of the marvel and dc comics duke it out

me i think that ant-man would win because he could get whole colony of ants to help and gang up on the atom

Atome simple changes size and squashes the ants

i think ant man cause when he was ant man he could also be giant man

Atom can become smaller than Ant man in vade his anatomy and stop his heart or urst his brain or any number of things.

Can I update this to Ryan Choi vs Scott Lang?
Random, mistaken I.D.

Bump, I think Atom.

I would have said Atom years ago but I now say Hank Pym. since his power upgrade.

antman, he's cooler

the atom ... ant man can shrink , grow and call upon insects ... if he grows atom shrinks to a size he can't be stomped , if ant man calls ants or bees or any thing... same thing would happen (but i think the atom would be cornerd ... it all comes down to who can shrink more . i'm positive that Atom can shrink to the size of ... well ... atoms (duh ) but i am not sure how small hank can go (i think less (or more .. IDK)(he can't shrink to the size of atoms that is for sure) if he can please tell me ! Atom FTW

He's called The Atom for a reason.

Look at their names. Of course the atom wins lol

The atom wins because as far as I know he can go a lot smaller than Pym.

Pym has became subatomic as well. hes been in the microverse numerous times. he also has a much greater power set and better equipment

Is this a shrinking contest? or a battle? I'm confused here.

Atom was once a warrior on one planet so hes got the experience. Plus anything he touches explodes so basically the worlds his grenade

Definitely The Atom

That wasn't some alien planet. IIRC he was just in the Amazon Rain Forest.

Ant Man + Atom = Atom Ant

By saying one planet, it kinda imply a non earth planet.

Can't Antman grow infinitely small or infinitely large? So much so,not just to enter different universes,but different planes of existence? Plus,he has shrunken gadgets and weapons that he usually has,which he created using his intellect (you know...being the 3rd smartest hero on Marvel earth).

Ant-Man bumps his head to atom with his helmet.

The Atom ftw. Morals off he shrinks to atomic size crawls up Ant Mans nose and reverts to normal size and bursts his head like a watermelon.

Like the other thread Hank Pym wins.

Depends on the incarnations, but presuming it's Ray Palmer vs Hank Pym, Pym wins because he can send him to the realm of abstract entities for a few secs like he did with Absorbing Man. I believe he is subatomic now as well.

Ant Man + Atom = Atom Ant

lol

this

Atom would win after a ausome battle

Atom wins in an awesome battle we couldn't even see.

Ant-Man would win, not only is he smarter with more degrees, but he can also bring in more high-grade weaponry with him.

Actually, it seems like they may have been friends due to the fact they were in a comic book together.

Scott Lang can actually shrink to microscopic sizes. Some comicshes able to enter subatomic universes.

The winner of this contest of miniature, super smart scientist super-heroes is: THE ATOM.

Atom eats him.

I think the Atom would win due to being able to grow smaller than ant-man but covers less distance while running and stuff.

Lol I remember that guy! I used to watch him on TV so long ago...

Ant Man. He is atom except he has control of ants so he wins simply because of that.

nonnonooon Wasp is smaller than both of em

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Rules

Round One
Hal: Only Has A Day Charged Left On His Ring Richard: His Normal Portion Of The Nova Force No Prep/Sudden Encounter In Character Win By Death, K.O or Surrender\
Round Two
Hal: Has His Lantern For Unlimited Charges Richard: Nova-Prime Level One Day Prep Bloodlusted Win By Death
Round Three
Hal: Leader/All Of Corps Richard: Leader/All Of Corps (Before Annihilation) Win By Total Conquest Of The Other Corp In Character One Month Prep
Location

Opponent

Nova Prime One and Two, Green Lantern for Three.

@Pwok21 said:

Nova Prime One and Two, Green Lantern for Three.

@Pwok21: Doesn't Nova have his normal power level in round one? (Before he went Nova Prime)

1: Lantern

2: Nova

2: Lanterns

@ndm5 said:

@Pwok21: Doesn't Nova have his normal power level in round one? (Before he went Nova Prime)

1: Lantern

2: Nova

2: Lanterns

This.

@Pwok21 said:

Nova Prime One and Two, Green Lantern for Three.

so it's hal in the fight?

yeah he wins all three

@ndm5:

Regular Nova has enough utilities to stop Hal.

Not to mention he could outlast Hal with only a days ring charge.

@Pwok21: No he doesn't, I think you are under estimating GL here.

Gl's power level is pretty high, I mean I'm pretty sure he could end a fight with nova in under a day. Idk how powerful nova prime is though. And the gl corps would crush nova corps

From what I hear, Nova Prime is essentially the surfer in a gold helmet as far as power levels go.

Ok well round one gl two nova three gls

@ndm5:

I think that you are understating Nova and overstating Hal, but whatever dude.

Nova all rounds. His powers are on par with Silver Surfer, who can wreck any Green Lantern easily.

Nova wins all rounds. No way in hell Hal Jordan would beat Nova. Whoever disagrees is a huge GL fanboy.

Nova all rounds

Hal all rounds

Nova wins all rounds. END OF TOPIC

Noone is really providing any explanation as to why whoever would win. I believe we are supposed to debate.

Personally, I think Green Lantern would win except for maybe the second one. Green Lantern ring is the strongest weapon in the DC universe and Hal is extremely talented with it. I find it hard to believe that Nova will be able to stop Green Lantern.

Green lantern wins

Nova all rounds

Hal all rounds

Exactly how strong is Nova cause I'm thinkin GL all rounds?

Green Lantern all rounds

Does anyone know of Post-Crises Hal Jordan feats?

Nova ftw on the 1st 2. GL on the last. Only because of the sheer numbers of the lanterns. If u wanna even the numbers I can't see how the lanterns win.

First Fight: Hal Jordan.

Why: Richard Rider is one of the more skilled Nova Centurions. He has shown great skill and determination in the face of stronger opponents and make no mistake Hal Jordan is FAR stronger than a regular Centurion. So I can see Rider outlasting Kyle Rayner or Guy Gardner and most of the GLC members if they are this low on energy.

That said, Hal is the most skilled GL. He took on all the GLC at once. Its possible that Rider outlasts him, his brother, Robert Rider, showed what a regular can do at his best. I just think it won't work on Hal.

Second Fight: Richard Rider.

Everything has limits, even Hal's force of will. All the Nova Force combined puts Rider on the level of Galactus heralds such as Firelord, Terrax or Air-walker (note that I think that SS and Stardust are more powerful). As such he should be able to take any GL even Hal or Sodom Yat, provided there is no Ion involved. The stated rules make this a power vs power slugfest and I believe Nova comes out well ahead when fully powered.

Third Fight: Green Lantern Corps

This one is not even close. The Nova Corps are both VASTLY outnumbered and outpowered. Note that Rider has a chance in the first fight because Hal is low on energy and because Rider is rather good at what he does.

There are far more Lanters and even if not, the average Lantern outpowers the average Centurion by quite a margin. Only the best Centurions could give the Lanterns even something like a fight. And even the best Centurions would loose against any fully powered Lantern.

1 green lantern 2 nova 3 green lantern

lantern wont have sufficient will deliver and finishing blow on nova to be honest... besides the nova force can be yellow.... and he doesn't need to focus.... nova barely wins nova prime curbsomps him

You do know that doesn't matter anymore right?

@sirnicktheepic: I'm pretty sure the yellow weakness was retconned away or something. For round 1, there is no way that Richard would win. Hal with one days charge is still as strong as he is normally. I don't even think a Nova at centurion level has any means of hurting him. The only way Rich could win is if he somehow lasted until the charge ran out which is unlikely since Hal is way faster than he is and can pretty much one shot him.

For round 2 it's pretty much a curbstomp in Richard's favor.

Round 3 goes to the Lanterns. Like mentioned above, the Nova corps are heavily outnumbered and outgunned. They'd probably have a hard time taking out Nova Prime but with one months prep and the entire corps against him I don't think his chances are great.

R1 - Not sure. I could make an equal argument either way.

R2 - Nova Prime - Dude's a beast.

R3 - Lanterns - I think the average Lantern is more powerful than the average Nova Corpsman.

R3 w/ a twist - If the Nova Corps also had Quasar with them, I'd give it to the Nova Corps.

How is Nova Prime stomping Hal, he's not that powerful

Hal all rounds.

Anybody have feats for Nova Prime?

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. Your own scans state that he's EMITTING radiation.

That's what radioactive means.

Furthermore, the closer Stark gets to him, the higher the levels climb.

proof that Hulk is weak against radioactive attacks, I guess.

My scan states that the radiation is increasing (and it happened AFTER the Avengers attacked him). Hulk is also getting weaker just by being close to Abomination and it appears the same thing is happening to Carol while again....Abomination radiation is increasing.

Where did it state that the closer Stark got to him the more Radiation he began emitting? He said the radiation is CLIMBING/INCREASING.

Lol at Hulk getting weakened by radiation. The same Hulk was hit by a nuke radiation bomb and was turned to this.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot9_zps4082ff04.jpg.html?sort=9&o=153

SMH.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85 Lol. Your own scans state that he's EMITTING radiation. That's what radioactive means. Furthermore, the closer Stark gets to him, the higher the levels climb. proof that Hulk is weak against radioactive attacks, I guess. My scan states that the radiation is increasing (and it happened AFTER the Avengers attacked him).

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Vs

clown or goblin who wins ?

Okay this one is esaier then Bullseye VS Joker. I totally think the Clown Prince of Crime would kick Green Goblin's @$$ =P

the goblin wins

joker too insane would let his anger get the best of him green goblin would use his mind as well as his skills

Well, they both have some dangerous weapons and gadgets. I think it might be a tie, but GG has his glider, while Joker has that poison of his that makes people laugh to death.

Forever says:

"Nighthunter says:
"goblin is also (if I'm not wrong) a metahuman "

That would be correct."

OK, add that to his advantages. But what exactly is a metahuman? My comic vocabulary is not terribly high.

Forever says:

"White Phantom says:
"OK, add that to his advantages. But what exactly is a metahuman? My comic vocabulary is not terribly high. "

That just means he is superhuman or beyond human. Anyone with powers is considered metahuman in DC."

OK, thanks. But isn't Joker a bit beyond human too?

White Phantom says:

"Forever says:
"White Phantom says:
"OK, add that to his advantages. But what exactly is a metahuman? My comic vocabulary is not terribly high. "

That just means he is superhuman or beyond human. Anyone with powers is considered metahuman in DC."

OK, thanks. But isn't Joker a bit beyond human too?

"

hmm no, joker isn't

Alright then

Nighthunter says:

"White Phantom says:
"Well, they both have some dangerous weapons and gadgets. I think it might be a tie, but GG has his glider, while Joker has that poison of his that makes people laugh to death."
goblin is also (if I'm not wrong) a metahuman "

he is super strong and has a healing factor

Goblin take this. I cant remember for sure but I think Goblins mask even has a filter that would protect him from gasses now. That might of been a one case thing though so not sure.

I'd have to say Goblin because Joker has no way of escaping those tiny bombs that Goblin throws,and to top it off Goblin has extrordinary acuracy skills.

joker would lose badly to Goblin, Goblin has the hoverboard....with technecally knives on the front of his board.

joker would lose badly to Goblin, Goblin has the hoverboard....with technecally knives on the front of his board.

Just the board gives it to Goblin, Joker can't get to him.

I can not see anyway for Joker to win this. It's like brining knife to a gun fight.

goblin takes the clown easy
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Green Goblin is faster, stronger, and probably smarter than the Joker (Green Goblin is a genius who went insane.....Joker.....is insane), he also has superior equipment and could probably just carpet bomb the entire area that Joker is in.

Norman can easily break every bone in the Joker's body with his bare hands. Giving him his glider and other lethal gear is just overkill.

I agree with this is like bringing a knive to a gun fight analogy. Let me further add it''s like bringing a Mini Van to race against a sports car. A complete mismatch. Green Goblin bombs Joker before Joker can every say a joke, or get out one of his trick weapons.

goblins stronger and faster so i'll go with goblin

No glider, no bombs, and Green Goblin still takes the Joker and skins him alive, literally.

He beats Joker in every category except being insane.

Lunacyde said:
"No glider, no bombs, and Green Goblin still takes the Joker and skins him alive, literally.

He beats Joker in every category except being insane."

I strongly agree. Green Goblin's insanity is treatable, and can still remain Green Goblin while in order for Joker to non insane it would require surgrey.

Goblin

The Joker battles Batman on a regular basis, going h2h and occassionaly winning. He has just as many bombs and tactical devices as the The GG and he doesn't need to fly-by's around the city to kill someone. He stays for the assault and savors the moment. Joker all the way.

I think that Goblin will win.

Yeah, even without bombs and such the Goblin would pull Joker apart with ease.
The only thing they have in common is insanity to varying degrees, other then that Joker is pretty normal.

Windgrace said:
"Yeah, even without bombs and such the Goblin would pull Joker apart with ease.
The only thing they have in common is insanity to varying degrees, other then that Joker is pretty normal."
Yup.

Windgrace said:
"Yeah, even without bombs and such the Goblin would pull Joker apart with ease.
The only thing they have in common is insanity to varying degrees, other then that Joker is pretty normal."

I agree. The Green Goblin has a healing factor, superhuman strength, superhuman speed, and is a deadly hand to hand combatant. Anything that Joker throws at Green Goblin would just annoy him, and Green Goblin would pound till he's dead.

Green Goblin wins..very easily.

is his healing factor?Firestormnuclerman said:
"Windgrace said:
"Yeah, even without bombs and such the Goblin would pull Joker apart with ease.
The only thing they have in common is insanity to varying degrees, other then that Joker is pretty normal."

I agree. The Green Goblin has a healing factor, superhuman strength, superhuman speed, and is a deadly hand to hand combatant. Anything that Joker throws at Green Goblin would just annoy him, and Green Goblin would pound till he's dead."
How efficient

mira said:
" is his healing factor?Firestormnuclerman said:
"Windgrace said:
"Yeah, even without bombs and such the Goblin would pull Joker apart with ease.
The only thing they have in common is insanity to varying degrees, other then that Joker is pretty normal."

I agree. The Green Goblin has a healing factor, superhuman strength, superhuman speed, and is a deadly hand to hand combatant. Anything that Joker throws at Green Goblin would just annoy him, and Green Goblin would pound till he's dead."
How efficient
"
SO efficient he was able to recover from being supposedly killed from his own glider, and allowing him to fake his own death. Also recovered from having a dozen of his own bombs explode that were webbed to his chest.

Firestormnuclerman said:
"mira said:
" is his healing factor?Firestormnuclerman said:
"Windgrace said:
"Yeah, even without bombs and such the Goblin would pull Joker apart with ease.
The only thing they have in common is insanity to varying degrees, other then that Joker is pretty normal."

I agree. The Green Goblin has a healing factor, superhuman strength, superhuman speed, and is a deadly hand to hand combatant. Anything that Joker throws at Green Goblin would just annoy him, and Green Goblin would pound till he's dead."
How efficient
"
SO efficient he was able to recover from being supposedly killed from his own glider, and allowing him to fake his own death. Also recovered from having a dozen of his own bombs explode that were webbed to his chest."
Really? Hmm... Then I think that Goblin will win. (But he was without healing factor in Spiderman movie? Why?)

mira said:
"Firestormnuclerman said:
"mira said:
" is his healing factor?Firestormnuclerman said:
"Windgrace said:
"Yeah, even without bombs and such the Goblin would pull Joker apart with ease.
The only thing they have in common is insanity to varying degrees, other then that Joker is pretty normal."

I agree. The Green Goblin has a healing factor, superhuman strength, superhuman speed, and is a deadly hand to hand combatant. Anything that Joker throws at Green Goblin would just annoy him, and Green Goblin would pound till he's dead."
How efficient
"
SO efficient he was able to recover from being supposedly killed from his own glider, and allowing him to fake his own death. Also recovered from having a dozen of his own bombs explode that were webbed to his chest."
Really? Hmm... Then I think that Goblin will win. (But he was without healing factor in Spiderman movie? Why?)"

I didn't make the Spider Man movie so you should ask the director. I think it was because they wanted to allow for other super villains so that's why Green Goblin (Norman Osborne) died.

goblin takes this. he has superior weapons and strength&reflexes equal to spiderman... joker is more insane ill give him that but he is outclassed in this battle

I would go with the goblin, he has more gear and lots of explosives.

This us hardly fair I really can't see any scenario in which the joker takes this. Goblin is smarter, faster, stronger and better equip than Joker. Joker is a Villain but the Green Goblin is a Super-Villain

inteligence: joker is unpredictable and is able to mess around with batman.goblin is a genius one of the most inteligent characters in marvel universe.edge: dont know
resources: norman osbourne in spades
strength: goblin is around spiderman's lvl takes this in spades
agility durability: same plus goblin wears a bullet proof armor.he could literally go to sleep as joker tries to hurt him
not to mention the lasser gloves of gg that he used to cut daily bugle building in half
by the way doesnt gg has a mask that protects him from gases?i mean he must have since he has gas weapons to.

Green Goblin wins .

Green goblin wins as he has powers and joker is only human.

Okay. The Joker tangles with batman, with successes against his arch-nemesis as well as many other nifty devices and talents in his repertoire. Joker primarily fights batman with his mind, utilizing clever tactics and all manner of perplexing theatrics to throw off his foes. He may not be a particularly talented scientist or inventor, but in my book you'd have to be a strategic genius to tangle with the likes of batman (who, from the literary perspective, is nothing more than a highly advanced version of sherlock holmes), also a genius in his own right, and definately smarter than spiderman except in specific areas.

The green goblin is also insane, suffering from split personality disorder. Because the Joker is primarily a psychological combatant, and a complete sociopath (don't let the grin fool you), I give joker the upper hand in any battle of the wits. Besides, anyone who spends so much timein arkham asylum ought to know how to diagnose a crazy person when he sees one, and who knows crazy better than the original psycho clown?

Now, norman is no idiot either. Batshit-crazy, yes, but not an idiot. He may have the joker outclassed in many ways, but superhuman powers and better technology isn't everything. Remember, we're talking about a the JOKER... the same villain who stole reality warping powers from Mr. Mytzlplk and created his own world. The same guy who continually cheats death and escapes from a maximum security prison for the criminally insane on a FREQUENT BASIS. The same guy who killed jason todd. The same guy who throws Lex Luthor for a loop every time all of his evil buddies show up to fight the super friends.

Green Goblin killed gwen, yeah... inadvertantly. He makes parker's life horrible... he renamed shield something that only a self-hating, overcompensating man would name it... HAMMER. Hell, he was even inadvertantly responsible for Harry Osbourne's death... but directly murdering innocents? I can't remember that EVER happening.

Sorry, without a doubt in my mind I can say that joker is not only more evil and more insane, but also much smarter. What better way to torture your nemesis for the rest of his life than to kill his sidekick and convince him it was his fault? PRICELESS.

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Vs clown or goblin who wins ? Okay this one is esaier then Bullseye VS Joker. I totally think the Clown Prince of Crime would kick Green Goblin's @$$ =P the goblin wins joker too insane would let his anger get the best of him green goblin would use his mind as well as his skills Well, they both have some dangerous weapons and gadgets.

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Marvel and DC Comics are the two most famous publishers in this comic industry and no doubt, each has their own superheroes favored by many fans. As always, fans want to see who's the stronger: superheroes from Marvel? Or superheroes from DC Comics? Of course comparing these heroes is mostly suggestive, but still, doing these comparisons is fun. And so this time, we have a battle between the world's smartest men: Batman vs Iron Man! Who Would Win?

vs has always been a debate for years. Definitely we want to see them in combat and see who would emerge victorious. But before that, first let's take a look at their profile and their abilities shall we?

Everyone knows Batman, the world's greatest detective, the Dark Knight, and of course, one of the main pillars in Justice League. Batman made his first appearance in Detective Comics #567 in 1986 and gradually, he has become one of the most famous superheroes nowadays.

Batman's real name is Bruce Wayne, a billionaire industrialist and a playboy who controls the enormous Wayne Enterprises. When he was a young child, he had to witness his parents killed by the criminal Joe Chill. Ever since, he shared a deep vendetta against criminals and he swore to protect Gotham City with hope to prevent citizens from suffering the same thing as him.

Despite being a mortal, Bruce Wayne/ Batman has reached the limit of humankind. He possesses the peak-human conditions and as a seasoned fighter, Bruce has also mastered all the martial arts in the world, including even ninjutsu.

Finally, which is also the most important; Bruce 's intelligence is in genius level. His intelligent level is so astounding that he has learned tons of knowledge from Biology, Technology, Mathematics, and Physics to Forensic Sciences, Medical Sciences, and Computer Sciences. And with all of these feats, Bruce Wayne is indeed the world's greatest mortal to date.

Bruce Wayne is exceptional in analyzing and planning for different situations. That said; he also had problem with trust as he often thinks of various potential threats, including even his own friends. The most typical example for both his intelligence and his trust issue is the Towel of Babel event in Justice League of America. In this event, it showed that Batman has even planned detail ways to defeat every single member of Justice League in case these superheroes would turn to evil.

Batman Statistics

Strengths:

Peak-Human Conditions in all aspects from strength, agility to endurance.

Master Martial Artist: He learned and mastered all the martial arts in the world, including ninjutsu.

Genius Intellect Level: Bruce Wayne's genius intelligence allows him to pretty much learn any new knowledge at ease. He has tons of degrees in many fields, including Forensic Sciences. Throughout many events, Bruce has proved his fearsome analytic and planning skill. He can come up with various situations and how to deal with them, including his own friends.

Indomitable Will: Bruce has extremely strong willpower, allowing him to withstand damages and in dire situations. His willpower also allows him to wield the Green Lantern Ring if necessary.

Weaknesses:

Stubbornness: While Batman's strong willpower makes him a dangerous foe to deal with, this strong willpower also bring him various problems. He won't easily listen to the others and this can bring disturbance to his allies when he forces his ideas on them.

The man in advanced robot suit and also the man who is famous with the " Take that off and what are you?" meme, let's welcome: Anthony Stark, or Tony Stark! Tony Stark is one of the most famous Marvel characters to date. And of course, this character is even more famous in the world by Robert Downey Jr.

Tony is the owner of Stark Industries and unlike many superheroes; Tony doesn't have any problem in showing his true identity. Of course, he is also a genius industrialist millionaire, and a famous playboy. Before taking the name Iron Man, he got a heart injury and he had to live with Core Reactor within him. He was captured by terrorists and forced to build a super weapon. Yet instead, he built the very first Iron Man model to escape and eventually, becomes a superhero.

Without Iron Man suit, Tony is pretty much a mere mortal with average mortal physical strength. However, his genius intelligence is what matters most as he can invent various machines, especially the infamous Iron Man suits. Tony Stark has created various powerful suits that he can even defeat the Phoenix Force.

Iron Man Statistics

Strengths:

Genius Intellect Level: Tony Stark is a brilliant inventor who invented various arsenals and equipment for H.I.E.L.D and his allies. And of course, we cannot forget the power Iron Man suits including the Hulkbuster, Bleeding Edge Armor, Endo-Sym Armor, and recently the All-New, All-Different Iron Man.

Genius Inventor: Tony Stark is no doubt a genius, especially in inventing new technologies. He has invented various arsenals and tools for himself, his fellow heroes, and H.I.E.L.D. Even if he didn't work as Iron Man, his invention capability would still be an extremely valuable asset for S.H.I.E.L.D and the Avengers.

Superhuman Capabilities: With different Iron Man suits, Tony can adapt to almost all environments and conditions. They also give Tony immense power to deal various opponents like Hulk, Thor, and even the Phoenix Force.

Weaknesses:

Depression: Tony has a so-called Major Depressive Disorder which often pushes him to the state of extremely down mood. Even though he looks arrogant at many occasions, he looks extremely bad when he gets depressed. Robert Downey Jr. probably did the best illustration of this depression issue in Iron Man 2 when he learned that the Core Reactor is poisoning him.

Many fans have analyzed this battle and so far, the "win rate" between Batman and Iron Man is pretty close. That said; currently it seems the winning side is leaning towards Batman. Here we will sum up the most popular analysis and why do they think their favorite heroes will win. In this case, we will consider these two characters in their peak power, including the parallel Universes and all the storylines.

So based on the various debates, we will decide to split this battle into 2 scenerios: Batman and Iron Man fight without knowing each other beforehand, and their battle after knowing each other for a certain time.

Batman vs Iron Man, a Sudden Fight

In most debates, it seems even Batman fans have to agree that Iron Man will win in an unexpected fight. The main argument from Iron Man side is that Iron Man's suit already gives Tony superpower. On the other hand, Batman normally wears the regular Batsuit and equipment. The standard Bat-equipment and Bruce's martial arts are surely not enough to give Iron Man a scratch. And of course, Iron Man easily wins the day.

Batman vs Iron Man, a Battle of Armors

In another circumstances, what if Batman fought Iron Man with his most powerful suit in the comic: Hellbat Suit? According to the comic, Hellbat Suit is created by the Justice League for Batman so that Batman can fight in extreme condition (he even fought Darkseid). Basically, Hellbat Suit tremendously increases Batman's physical conditions to Superman's level. But such a powerful suit also comes with a major drawback: it drains Batman's metabolism. If Bruce used this suit for too long, high chance Bruce's life will be drained to death. So how fair if it fights with other powerful Iron Man suits?

Hellbat vs Bleeding Edge Armor: There is an acknowledgement that Hellbat's power is far more powerful than the Bleeding Edge due to its Superman's strength and The Flash's speed. Some fans even claim that Hellbat can one-shot the Bleeding Edge before it can do anything. Yet other fans think that Tony Stark still have higher winning chance due to his vast knowledge of hacking and cybernetic technologies. Another possibility is if the Bleeding Edge can prolong the battle long enough, Batman is likely dead due to the Hellbat's metabolism draining. Still, the question is: can Bleeding Edge survive the insane strength and speed from Hellbat?

Hellbat vs Endo-Sym Armor: Endo-Sym Armor is an interesting Iron Man suit as it is a full liquid smart-metal which can self-generate. This suit is based on symbiotic biology and it connects with user via psionic bond. So, what if Endo-Sym fights against Hellbat? Again, the win votes for Endo-Sym and win votes for Hellbat are quite equal. Those who vote for Endo-Sym claim that the Endo-Sym can increase Tony's endurance drastically and it is more versatile than the Hellbat. On the other hand, Hellbat fans argue that it defeated the Parademon army and even 2 gods. Such a feat could not be achieved with Endo-Sym and therefore, the Endo-Sym would be destroyed by Hellbat unless Batman got his life drained dry.

Hellbat vs Uru Armor: This is quite an equal battle among fans since both armors are capable of god-killing. The Hellbat was forged from the efforts of all Justice League members, while the Uru Armor was forged from the Uru metal - the very same metal used to create the infamous Destroyer and Mjölnir. This Uru Armor was also enchanted by Odin, making it an extremely powerful armor Tony ever created. Frankly speaking it is impossible to compare these two armors, unless in a faithful day we have a special issue featuring Hellbat fighting Uru Armor.

Bruce Wayne vs Tony Stark, Brawl without Armors

Well... there is no debate about this matter. If Tony Stark has to fight without his Iron Man suits, he will 100% get beaten by Bruce Wayne. While Tony is a master of armors, he is pretty much a mortal in term of mortal strength. On the contrary, Bruce Wayne is a master martial artist and of course, how can a normal human can defeat an experienced martial artist?

Bruce Wayne vs Tony Stark, a Battle of Minds

Now this is an interesting scenario. Let's suppose that Batman and Iron Man have already known each other. Who will win?

In equal terms, both Bruce Wayne and Tony Stark possess genius intellect level. Bruce Wayne is known to be versatile in almost all subjects, while Tony Stark is adept at computers, technologies, and cybernetic inventions.

Fans who vote for Bruce Wayne often takes the " I'm Batman" factor as the main reason why Bruce will win given that he has time to prepare. Batman has always been known as the man of extreme cautious. He always plans far ahead in order to prevent any possible disasters. In JLA Tower of Babel, it revealed that Batman even planned detail plan to defeat every single member of Justice League in case they are corrupted. With such a "feat", Batman fans believe that he can easily come up with plan to defeat Tony Stark.

On the other hand, Iron Man fans also believe that Tony Stark is also a genius like Bruce. Surely, Tony would also research about Bruce Wayne and forge an armor suitable for defeating Batman.

Of course, it is still hard to say who will win given time to know each other. However, it seems the number of people voting for Bruce is higher than Tony 's.
And that's it folk! What do you think? Batman vs Iron Man, who would be the winner? Feel free to share with us and for now, thank you and stay tune for more news in the future! You may also like:

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give me your idea's

Spider-man curbstomp.

this will most likely be closed soon.

NIGHTWING. DUH.

Emoman would run and cry to MJ in point 5.

Vance Astro said:
"Spider-man curbstomp.

this will most likely be closed soon.

"

Vance Astro said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Spider-man curbstomp.

this will most likely be closed soon.

"

"
Negative Balance.

BatgirlBabs said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Spider-man curbstomp.

this will most likely be closed soon.

"

"
Negative Balance."
Positive Balance.

No, Negative.

Batman sends Nightwing on a death mission in volume 4 of A Darker Shade of Justice. He survives, and he kicks ass, and he takes Blackgate prison. Nightwing is severely underrated.

I agree. Unfortunately, Nightwing is underrated. Both will definitely need medical attention when this is over. Its definitly not curbstomp. I say Spidey wins but not easily.

spidey wins nightwing is a hell of a agile man but spidey is more agile and has more advantage... but i agreed whit valor not a curbstomp

G'bandit said:
"spidey wins nightwing is a hell of a agile man but spidey is more agile and has more advantage... but i agreed whit valor not a curbstomp"

Valor said:
"I agree. Unfortunately, Nightwing is underrated. Both will definitely need medical attention when this is over. Its definitly not curbstomp. I say Spidey wins but not easily. "
Nightwing is overrated.

You all need to read Nightwing and stop jumping on the Vance bandwagon :)

Ahhh, babe I love u but Spiderman would own Nightwing. He's faster, stronger, more agile and his spider sense all but gare-un-tees Nightwing wouldn't land a shot :(

Once again, I bring up Blackgate prison. Read Nightwing, all of you, then come and talk to me.

Vance Astro said:
"Valor said:
"I agree. Unfortunately, Nightwing is underrated. Both will definitely need medical attention when this is over. Its definitly not curbstomp. I say Spidey wins but not easily. "
Nightwing is overrated."
LMAO I cant belive I read that when your talking about spiderman LMFFAO.

Nightiwng has this in the bank it wont be easy but I got to back the man, Read war games and the All mobbed up series and then read renagde and tell me how great Spidey is. NW has this in the bag.

Luncin Arrow said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Valor said:
"I agree. Unfortunately, Nightwing is underrated. Both will definitely need medical attention when this is over. Its definitly not curbstomp. I say Spidey wins but not easily. "
Nightwing is overrated."
LMAO I cant belive I read that when your talking about spiderman LMFFAO.

Nightiwng has this in the bank it wont be easy but I got to back the man, Read war games and the All mobbed up series and then read renagde and tell me how great Spidey is. NW has this in the bag.
"
What? Stop talking stupid.

JUMP ON THE VANCE BANDWAGON...OR I WILL BREAK YOUR FEET!!!!

Gambler said:
"Spiderman would own Nightwing. He's faster, stronger, more agile and his spider sense all but gare-un-tees Nightwing wouldn't land a shot :(
"
... agreed *grinds teeth*

Spider-Man is faster, more agile, and has super-strength. Add the webs and spider-sense and Nightwing has pretty much zero chance here. If Pete didn't pull his punches, he would one-shot kill NW.

Vance Astro said:
"Luncin Arrow said: What? Stop talking stupid."

Your talking to Final Arrow, Vance.

Vance Astro said:
"Luncin Arrow said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Valor said:
"I agree. Unfortunately, Nightwing is underrated. Both will definitely need medical attention when this is over. Its definitly not curbstomp. I say Spidey wins but not easily. "
Nightwing is overrated."
LMAO I cant belive I read that when your talking about spiderman LMFFAO.

Nightiwng has this in the bank it wont be easy but I got to back the man, Read war games and the All mobbed up series and then read renagde and tell me how great Spidey is. NW has this in the bag.
"
What? Stop talking stupid."
Come on you said Nightwing is over rated pick your brain up at the door on your way out and look at Spiderman.

Luncin Arrow said: I said Nightwing is overrated because Valor said he's underrated which is false.If anything people believe he can do more than he actually can.

TheDrifter said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Luncin Arrow said: What? Stop talking stupid."

Your talking to Final Arrow, Vance."
So...

Why does everyone keep saying, "Read this, or read that?" Those are stories and plot devices. Spiderman beat Firelord once but you dont see anyone saying read whatever issue that bs happened in. How does Nightwing even land a punch in this fight? He's slower, weaker, and outclassed in agility.

Read Batman RIP 378. And get back to me

Vance Astro said:
"TheDrifter said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Luncin Arrow said: What? Stop talking stupid."

Your talking to Final Arrow, Vance."
So..."
Agreed.

On the front of Nightwing I belive people think he can do more because of the whole batman thing as soon as you tie batman to something then it instanly make him meta or something. But I honestly think he could take this I have seen him fight simular people and win.

Luncin Arrow said: This is almost as bad as SeSaw saying Abomination can beat Superman....

Luncin Arrow said: Like who?

Gambler said: Well one he has beat Salde wilson hand to hand. He has beat raptor a man who had flight and super aglity and was able to shot bull whips from his arms, He also has beat numuerous freaks with super stregnth and diffrent powers I just dont think your under estimating him I just dont think you really know him.

Vance come on now your going to far . Vance Astro said:

"Luncin Arrow said:
"Vance Astro said:
"TheDrifter said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Luncin Arrow said: What? Stop talking stupid."

Your talking to Final Arrow, Vance."
So..."
Agreed.

On the front of Nightwing I belive people think he can do more because of the whole batman thing as soon as you tie batman to something then it instanly make him meta or something. But I honestly think he could take this I have seen him fight simular people and win.
"
This is almost as bad as SeSaw saying Abomination can beat Superman...."
Vance now your going to far I have actually come back and started a debate with you and all you can say is that you really need to try harder .

Luncin Arrow said:
"LMAO I cant belive I read that when your talking about spiderman LMFFAO.

Nightiwng has this in the bank it wont be easy but I got to back the man, Read war games and the All mobbed up series and then read renagde and tell me how great Spidey is. NW has this in the bag.
"

Nightwing is the sh!t, but face it. He can't do anything on Spidey's level. Nightwing is completely outclassed here.

Luncin Arrow said:

"....I have seen him fight simular people and win."

Who has Nightwing fought that is readily comparable to Spider-Man?

Static Shock said:
"Luncin Arrow said:
"LMAO I cant belive I read that when your talking about spiderman LMFFAO.

Nightiwng has this in the bank it wont be easy but I got to back the man, Read war games and the All mobbed up series and then read renagde and tell me how great Spidey is. NW has this in the bag.
"

Nightwing is the sh!t, but face it. He can't do anything on Spidey's level. Nightwing is completely outclassed here.

Luncin Arrow said:

"....I have seen him fight simular people and win."

Who has Nightwing fought that is readily comparable to Spider-Man?

"
Wow real smart are'nt you so glad you came into this with that one brain cell.

Spiderman throws cars, Nightwing is dead end of story.

Luncin Arrow said:
"Wow real smart are'nt you so glad you came into this with that one brain cell."
Alarm bells are ringing, Lucin...

This is like Deadpool vs Nightwing. Who wins? If it's Deadpool then Spidy takes the win against Nightwing.

Voidheart said:
"Spiderman throws cars, Nightwing is dead end of story.
"
LMAO now thats a statment I cant Argue with and look he did it with out insults how clever of him.

Bows to Voidheart respect to the respectful my friend.

Luncin Arrow said:
"Well one he has beat Salde wilson hand to hand. He has beat raptor a man who had flight and super aglity and was able to shot bull whips from his arms, He also has beat numuerous freaks with super stregnth and diffrent powers I just dont think your under estimating him I just dont think you really know him."

Do any of these people have a strength level of 10 tons, a clairvoyant spider-sense, superhuman agility that hasn't been matched, and a reaction time 15 times greater than humans?

Luncin Arrow said: I NEED TO TRY HARDER? At what? I can debate with someone if we are debating over a battle that is actually close...your arguing for a fight that Spider-man clearly wins.

Static Shock said:
"Luncin Arrow said:
"Well one he has beat Salde wilson hand to hand. He has beat raptor a man who had flight and super aglity and was able to shot bull whips from his arms, He also has beat numuerous freaks with super stregnth and diffrent powers I just dont think your under estimating him I just dont think you really know him."

Do any of these people have a strength level of 10 tons, a clairvoyant spider-sense, superhuman agility that hasn't been matched, and a reaction time 15 times greater than humans?"
And a mouth that could piss off anyone to the point of pure hatred.

Static Shock said:
"Luncin Arrow said:
"Well one he has beat Salde wilson hand to hand. He has beat raptor a man who had flight and super aglity and was able to shot bull whips from his arms, He also has beat numuerous freaks with super stregnth and diffrent powers I just dont think your under estimating him I just dont think you really know him."

Do any of these people have a strength level of 10 tons, a clairvoyant spider-sense, superhuman agility that hasn't been matched, and a reaction time 15 times greater than humans?"
Yes in fact they do, this is what cracks me up static. I know both Spiderman and Nightwing what have you actually read of nightwing.

Luncin Arrow said:
"Voidheart said:
"Spiderman throws cars, Nightwing is dead end of story.
"
LMAO now thats a statment I cant Argue with and look he did it with out insults how clever of him.

Bows to Voidheart respect to the respectful my friend.
"
than again i dont see spiderman being angry enough, depends what happened.

Luncin Arrow said:

Well one he has beat Salde wilson hand to hand. He has beat raptor a man who had flight and super aglity and was able to shot bull whips from his arms, He also has beat numuerous freaks with super stregnth and diffrent powers I just dont think your under estimating him I just dont think you really know him.
"
He's beaten Slade? I mean really beaten him? Cause the times I remeber him defeating Slade it was because Slade had alterer motives. When he wasn't plotting anything other then kicking the $#@! outta Nightwing, there wasnt anything Nightwing could do about it. Slade's owned him and the Teen Titans six ways from Sunday on several occasions. Raptor? Really? Some C-Rate villain from the DCU doesn't compare to Spiderman. Not to mention neither one of these characters have Spider Sense and Slade I know for a fact isn't as fast as Spdierman. He's also quite a bit weaker in terms of strength.

I know enough about Nightwing to know he's Peek Human at best. With no plot lines/story, theres no way a character of his caliber would be able to touch Spiderman. I haven't even gotten into the webs but I don't really think I have to. Its not underestimating Nightwing to say he looses to an opponent that outclasses him in every aspect.

Luncin Arrow said:
"Wow real smart are'nt you so glad you came into this with that one brain cell."
I don't know who you are. But, how about you stay on topic, and have friendly debate at least? I asked you a simple question and you answered it with an insult. Not a very intelligent response.

Static Shock said:
"Luncin Arrow said:
"Wow real smart are'nt you so glad you came into this with that one brain cell."
I don't know who you are. But, how about you stay on topic, and have friendly debate at least? I asked you a simple question and you answered it with an insult. Not a very intelligent response.
"
Um you called me Butface :p .

Luncin Arrow said:
"Yes in fact they do, this is what cracks me up static. I know both Spiderman and Nightwing what have you actually read of nightwing.
"

Then, provide evidence. And, I started reading Nightwing after issue 140. Why would any of the matter, though?

Luncin Arrow said:
"Um you called me Butface eye for an eye static."
No comment.

Static Shock said:
"Luncin Arrow said:
"Wow real smart are'nt you so glad you came into this with that one brain cell."
I don't know who you are. But, how about you stay on topic, and have friendly debate at least? I asked you a simple question and you answered it with an insult. Not a very intelligent response.
"

LOL.

This thread disgusts Vance Astro...

Its all good. Lets just keep the trash talkin to a minimum fellas

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