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A small note, I appreciated that the paper mentioned the confusion about how many variables in theoretical works have the same symbols - one frustration I have with theory is the lack of standardization in variable names 

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A small note, I appreciated that the paper mentioned the confusion about how many variables in theoretical works have the same symbols - one frustration I have with theory is the lack of standardization in variable names 

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Helping to make the heavier math more accessible

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Helping to make the heavier math more accessible

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I almost unconsciously skip equations in papers - this was a good reminder to stop and give them a chance!

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I've thought about how modeling is desperately needed for some of the topics I am most interested, but some never get around to actually doing it/having enough support and guidance. My interests are spatial/temporal stuff and I struggle to see how to simplify it enough/end up focusing my time on "easier" empirical stuff.

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Using [ ] to change pronouns in old quote from Elton 

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Using [ ] to change pronouns in old quote from Elton 

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How does one test theory? Everything in ecology is so context dependent and overdetermined. 

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How does one test theory? Everything in ecology is so context dependent and overdetermined. 

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(side note: this should be required reading before Pop+Com)

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extending/building off of existing models instead of starting from "scratch" makes theory more accessible for "beginners"

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bridging the communication gap between theorists and empiricists 

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bridging the communication gap between theorists and empiricists 

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Why does math make me lose interest in papers?

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Should advanced math be a requirement for ecology majors? SECONDED

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I thought it was cool that they mentioned that the lack of diversity in theoreticians has limited the range of theoretical frameworks represented in the field

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I thought it was cool that they mentioned that the lack of diversity in theoreticians has limited the range of theoretical frameworks represented in the field

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With the expectation/pressure that scientists often feel to become experts in everything (advanced math for modeling, analytical chemistry, molecular biology, etc.), it's almost like we're coming full circle back to the 1800's when every scientist was, like, a doctor, paleontologist, and botanist, or some similar combination.

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Which of the 4 approaches have we used without thinking about it?

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Which of the 4 approaches have we used without thinking about it?

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(also or with thinking about it)

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How do we find the balance between phenomenon and mechanical models during systemic studies?

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Shocking: less than 10% of ecologists/biologists agree that theoretical findings drive empirical work

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Shocking: less than 10% of ecologists/biologists agree that theoretical findings drive empirical work

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We need to talk about what empiricism means. It sounds like the authors are narrowly defining them in most places as people who runs simulations.

empirical adjective

/ɪmˈpɪrɪkl/

[usually before noun]

based on experiments or experience rather than ideas or theories
That's from OALD.

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Should advanced math be a requirement for ecology majors?

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Should advanced math be a requirement for ecology majors?

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What is a good target for the balance of theory/empiricism? The paper says that 55% of ecology papers already discuss theory in some capacity, but that is presented as low.

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What is a good target for the balance of theory/empiricism? The paper says that 55% of ecology papers already discuss theory in some capacity, but that is presented as low.

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If multiple models produce the same prediction, how do we know which one is the "correct" one?

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If multiple models produce the same prediction, how do we know which one is the "correct" one?

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Reading math is hard for many people

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Acknowledgement that ecologists come from a wide range of backgrounds, many of which are not heavy on formal math training.

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For "true empiricists" it might be very vague and abstract

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For "true empiricists" it might be very vague and abstract

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Assumptions of models - when to accept them and when to test them

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How does one decide the proper balance between realism and generalizability?

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How does one decide the proper balance between realism and generalizability?

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Using 'she/her' pronouns to describe the theoretician instead of 'they/them'.

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The importance of thinking through the extremes in a model

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The importance of thinking through the extremes in a model