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In the 2nd problem there is a visual representation. It does not explicitly tells what his commission will be in problem number 2.

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2 rates

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Group #17-problem 2 is more open-ended. It might naturally lead to additional (much bigger) discussions

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Group #17-problem 2 is more open-ended. It might naturally lead to additional (much bigger) discussions

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The 2nd problem has a table with values, the first has a picture to provide a visual

2nd did not give costs of houses

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Home Selling gives most of the information needed while Math Task challenges the student to do some investigating to find more information to answer the question.

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Task 1 gives students the info need and requires them to complete two math problems, with some comparison. Task 2 requires students to do some research and complete multiple math problems. Task 1 is Procedures with Connections, Task 2 is doing math.

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2nd problem is more open-ended. The 2nd problem brings in different communities. New vocabulary that students haven't seen before. #2 is more open ended and allowed for more connections.

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2nd problem is more open-ended. The 2nd problem brings in different communities. New vocabulary that students haven't seen before. #2 is more open ended and allowed for more connections.

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With the before and the after, how will this effect the way students will solve the problem?

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zillow reference and a fairly accurate real life question that a realtor would be asking about their work.

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The before is more appealing visually. There are pictures and the after only has a table. The first part has a challenge aspect. There are no questions asking to calculate in the second task.

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Task 2 really pushes the students to critically think about the average cost of the homes in each community. Then they would have to decide what community would give the most commission based on the percentages.

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There is more opportunity for discourse because of the lack of information.

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Visual & Zillow reference

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How we can use task 1 to do procedures with connections and the 2nd one would be doing the math.

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Number 1 is procedural and number 2 is more open ended/exploratory. Students have to look at specific areas and compare the cost of homes in each area.

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In the 2nd problem, it does not give the value of the house. We feel that the 2nd problem doesn't give you enough information.

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The first one is more descriptive. The second one doesn't have enough information to determine

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Different percents for commissions. The first problem has a specific selling price and the second problem does not. The second problem needs more information about how many houses are being sold, selling prices for each area. Students may have to look things up

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Visual representation and more direct path.

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the first problem shows visual representations and the 2nd problem shows the data on tables

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More details are provided to result in students getting to the answer. For students who are not very confident in math the first problem will seem more appealing.

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Would students be allowed to use AI for their research?

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The first question is straight forward, whereas the second one does not straight forward.

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There are two communities that have the same percentage commission in the second problem which leaves the question more open ended. Questions such as why are they the same? Why are the other two communities different, what are the factors that make them different? The possibility for further exploration is present.

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Gives opportunities for interpretation

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Table to organize and more gathering of necessary informaiton done by the students.

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Problem #2 is more connectable and accessible to the students.

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Can be specified to localities, have students look up houses on Zillow and compare real prices in their area

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The 2nd one has them looking into the housing market that is more relatable and gives them a chance to see what it is look if they wanted to buy a house in the future. 

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The 2nd one has them looking into the housing market that is more relatable and gives them a chance to see what it is look if they wanted to buy a house in the future. 

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The visuals and the information provided and the background information provided.

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my kids will use AI instead of researching on their own

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This one is more accessible to all students, more straight forward. The focus would be on finding the dollar amount for the commission

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We like the Home selling as a hook to get them thinking and as a scaffold to get to completing task 2

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Task 1 is procedures with connections, Task 2 was more inclusive. You can apply this to real-world situations. Task 1 has a defined answer, Task 2 requires research and justifying your answer.

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Visually interesting and inviting, grabbed our attention

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B: The first has photos with research. The second, it has no visual and less information.

C: The first one is more of a word problem.

AW: The second is easier to read, less busy.

DM: The table has the data readily available.

AG: The second one is more challenging.

AW: The second one is more open-ended and challenging.

DS: The first one calls for one right answer. The second one more cognitively demanding.

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Task 2 would require students to do research about average costs of house in different areas.

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Adding visuals to make the problem seem less complicated and stressful.

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1. More engaging visually

2. There are more questions

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The second option can allow the teacher to assign 4 different areas (or have the students choose) in which the students must research 4 houses and figure out the commission on each. Students then can explain how they decided on which house the seller would have the most commission. They can also provide a picture of each listing house.

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The first problem gives you the information that you need.

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Visuals, realistic visuals. Feels less stressful.

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Visualing the way the home looks

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2nd problem organized in a way that made more sense, less wordy.

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The differences between the two is that the second problem is more open ended they have to look at the different counties to see the prices and how much commission he gets.

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There are time constraints for the teacher, do we have enough time to do problem #2.

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It requires the students to do some research on the area of the houses.

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Visual, included a challenge, lower floor

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Gives them the opportunity to look up more information. They must find real data or estimate

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The visual representation of the problem. This first problem would show teachers if students have a good understanding of converting percentages. Gives us clues how to scaffold for number 2.

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Group 7 -Procedure with connections and can be calculated mathematically

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Group 7 -Procedure with connections and can be calculated mathematically

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Second task need a algorithm to calculate the answers for different cities and percent and since no connection

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We like to openness of the question.

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The students in our group were divided-one student would rather attempt the 1st and the other student likes the open-ended style of the 2nd one.

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More opportunity for math talk, more diverse, requires research.

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Our students are smarter than us... MIC DROP

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1. More open ended

2. Table is a better representation from an organizational stand point

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For problem 2, you would have to have a strategy for students who do not know how to get started.

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I like that there are visuals, thinking of my EL's. I like that there is a challenge and they can go up to another level. The extension allows for students to move on if I am helping other students.

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I like that there are visuals, thinking of my EL's. I like that there is a challenge and they can go up to another level. The extension allows for students to move on if I am helping other students.

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task 1 has more specific information, seems easier to get started. task 2 is more open ended and would require more information to determine max profit for Juan.

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The first one is more straightforward. We liked the visual.

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I think the second one would be more culturally responsive.

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We like the 2nd task because it said of just giving the information you need, it is more open ended and therefore rigorous.

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We liked the table and that the task is more open-ended.

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Real-world application, culturally diverse, engaging problem, picture, Zillow advertisement.

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Problem 1 has all the information very direct, Problem 2 is open ended opportunity to research.

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I like that it gives you everything you need making it easier allowing us to understand it better with little steps.

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it's first, specific information,

down side it the volume of words

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The first one is a case study. The second puts the question of selling a house in cultural context. 

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The first one is a case study. The second puts the question of selling a house in cultural context. 

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How a problem looks when you first see it can bring on stress. Visuals help to reduce the anxiety. All text brings on stress.

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Real life application and gives different opportunities for application. Multiple pathways to the answer.

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Depending on the grade level, there may be some homophobic comments about James and his husband

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I like the way the tables show all the data

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Problem 1 needs less flash and Probem 2 might want to offer tools.

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The students in our group said they'd rather solve task 2 because they see Math differently and can pull the numbers from the table easier.

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The student in our group said she would have been more drawn to the one with a picture more so than the one without.

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More open allows for students' input. How many rooms do they need? What apps allow them this info?

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Our student stated that she liked the second question better because of the visual (chart).

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Defining vocab like commission is vital. Lots of assumed understanding

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In task one, they are asking about a specific property. As opposed to task two, they are asking about a specific area.

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There is a lot of research needed when it goes into the pricing and purchasing of the home and students may not have prior knowledge of how much actually goes into looking for a house.

Both tasks can be useful for students who are thinking of going into real estate.

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Problem 2 has one of our students encouraged to check out. The culture needed to be developed before taking this task on, and deserved some encouragement before taking this task on.

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Task 2 was more open ended and may lead to more higher level thinking

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I feel like the 2nd problem was the most confusing in my opinion and didn't explain much but the 1st problem felt like it explained more and went more into detail and felt more easier and less stressful.

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between the two problems the first one look and feels better to solve and work thought. although the second could be used as a more open ended question the wording of the problem feels like there should be more context and direction. And visually the first looks better with the webpage image.

The first feels better as a student and when you solve the problem.