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God.

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Well, if you haven't, then remember this: The more you ignore your child's needs, the more she'll grow to resent and avoid you in the future. Take that as a warning before you start isolating her from everyone she cares about.

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So it seems you've left.

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I can't tell if you've gotten frustrated with my blatant logic and left or if you're still trying to conjure up a great rebuttal to my argument, but either way an argument that does not go on to be resolved is an argument that will eventually repeat itself.

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And even if you don't, do you realize how your actions will surely impact Isabelle in the future? The more you neglect her emotions and sweep her interests under the rug like dust, the more likely she's going to cut you off and forget you when she moves out.

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Do you not have any concern for the wellbeing of your own kid?

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You have the audacity to assume you can end this conversation without acknowledging that your child could be driven to the point of depression and anxiety (which she likely already suffers from) because you think you know what's best for her, when that doesn't seem to be the case in the slightest.

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Yours doesn't seem to be, either.

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BYE!

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Your brain is not fully developed!

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I'm also baffled at the fact you seem to only be worried about your child's grades rather than her mental health.

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Isabelle will NOT get better grades from this in the slightest. I'm baffled that you're continuously refusing to acknowledge a single thing I'm saying. Just because I'm not of your age does not mean I'm not qualified to speak rationally.

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You refuse to face blatant facts.

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I am done with you! BYE!

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Respect is not given, it is earned. And from what I can tell, you haven't earned that respect. I am speaking as politely as I possibly can, 'respect' is not blindly following what an adult tells you. I am not questioning your parenting skills, I'm questioning the logic in cutting Isabelle off from me. There is nothing good that will come from that. It will only leave YOUR child feeling upset and dismal now that she has nobody who respects her to talk to.

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Once again I am the parent!!

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I think you need to learn how to speak respectfully to adults!!! This conversation ends here! Once I am the parent!!

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So I will gladly say that if you can rethink your 'decision' of cutting off everyone Isabelle finds joy in talking to, I'd appreciate it and I'm certain she would to.

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Her grades will not improve from this. As much as you think it will, I can assure you it won't.

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She has nobody to share interests with because you shut her down when she tries to show you her work or the things she makes. This isn't an issue with her talking to people that 'distract' her. This is an issue with her feeling like she cannot talk to you without being shut down or picked on so she goes to others for those exchanges. And cutting her off from the only people she feels safe talking to is not going to do anything but make the situation worse.

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Again, making her miserable will not help her perform better in class or focus more efficiently.

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Cutting her off completely from the outside world isn't going to help with that. She can and will find more ways to make friends regardless of your approval, if you shut down her passions or needs then it's just going to give her more of a reason to lie to you. Yes, she shouldn't be completely zoned out in class, but that's a talk you have to have directly with her instead of assuming she should be cut off from everyone in order to solve that issue.

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It is when she is in class and teachers are aware that she is not paying attention.

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Yes, that's true, but it makes the conversation rather immature if you have to talk down to someone to prove a point. But that isn't my point right now, I'm trying to explain why she's failing. Because it certainly isn't the fault of her contact with friends.

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if you are 13 then technically you are still a kid

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I'm not trying to argue against your 'rules' nor do I appreciate being talked down to, so please don't call me 'kid'. Just because she is failing her classes doesn't mean her friends are at fault. If she is failing her classes then it's an issue with how effectively she's being taught. Not everyone learns the same way. Like I said, making her miserable without anyone to keep her company and share her interests when she needs someone to talk to isn't going to magically improve her grades.

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First of all kid I’m the parent and there are rules to be followed and she has not being doing so as well as she is failing all her classes

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What did she even lie about? From what I know, she was doing her school work while she talked with me. I don't understand why we have to cut contact when she's still trying her best to get her work done. Taking away her source of communication won't do anything to help her work faster, it'll simply make her miserable.

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What?

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So Isabelle will not be talking to you anymore for the fact of her lying

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((You there?))

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((I honestly think you're one of the sweetest people I've met.))

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((Well I don't think you're a bad person.

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hell adrien said it when i was most vulnerable.))

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but like the issue is im always told im the bad person.))

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((Alright, that's good-))

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yeah))

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((Alright- Does it work now?))

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ok so i signed out of the chromebook))

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((Zac?))

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((Can you read my messages?))

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((I don't think so))

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did padlet die?))

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((You're not a monster.))

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i just want to go back to when things were okay, when i was okay when I didn't become this monster.))

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((It's okay, you don't have to apologize. I honestly wanna help you, so if there's anything I can do to make you feel better, please ask. Anything at all, I'll try my best.))

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i try and i try im a positive person but I guess I just seem sort of broken.))

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sorry if that statement was kind of shocking. I don't want it to feel like a guilt trip.))

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((Also alright))

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((Well.. Is there anything I can do to help or at least ease the guilt? Anything at all. I'll try my best, just ask.))

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im gonna delete this vent just in case my mom sees.))

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but yeah thats all I have to say.))

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and speaking of him he still hasnt got on my padlet oh fucking well.))

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((Well, I don't know how much this'll help, but I know I'll never leave you. And I feel like you should start taking advantage of the fact you have a therapist, or, I really feel you should cut Adrien off. That's what I did (or, that's what im in the process of doing). He's a bad influence and he's not worth keeping around.))

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adriens self harm and suicide references are fake and bug me, faked shit triggers me.))

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now I can say I haven't done anything bad recently but I'd lie saying I haven't cut or thought of it.))

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but another thing unlike how adrien pulls suicide and self harm references for attention I really think about that shit and its the issue. I mean my mom hates me because I'm such an insensitive asshole, I have barely any irl friends because I'm so unliked. I used to be an attention seeker like adrien last fucking year but I changed, I dont even know what to do. Guilt hurts I feel like I don't really care and that I'm lying to myself. I can't even fucking read my emotions at this point. I fear losing everyone close because of this person I am.

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((Well if you'd still like to keep talking, then go on. I'm all ears.))

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id hug you back I really want one))

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yeah.))

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((I really hope you at least get a hug, if I could hug you through the screen I would))

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yeah.))

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((Oh, that's only three days. Not too long. It is a really good idea to tell Ronda though, hopefully she can help out with your situation.))

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friday.))

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((When are you going over to Ronda's this week?))

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((That's a really good idea. Hopefully she'll help you out, or at minimum you'd be able to get your feelings out instead of not having many people to talk to.))

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((Have you ever tried asking your mom what you can do to get some of your old privileges back?))

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((well  i know you're better than adrien and you dont guilt trip, whether intentionally or not. i trust you.))

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the issue is i feel like its guilt tripping.))

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((well if you need to vent to me, go right ahead. i may not be able to comfort you but i'm still willing to listen if you need it))

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also i must say ive been keeping some vents in because they might sound like guilt trips, adriens probably ruined venting truthfully))

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((alright))

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im deleting my vent on it.))

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((it wouldnt be your fault. and i'll tell him to get on your padlet.))

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i just want to talk to him now about this but I cant.))

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im keeping things inside maybe thats my issue the vents arent really helping at this point. I just feel like if adrien actually died it would be partially my fault for not being there.))

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Im still so stressed and I don't even know why))

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((he's fucking lying, because he made a 'vent' about it and made it sound like a fucking aesthetic or something quirky))

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but what if it was a tiny cut mark?))

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slitting your throat causes you to internally bleed and sufficate you))

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What if he made a little slash?))

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((because i told him to tell his mom and he said he 'pUt a sHiRt oVeR iT' and that it supposedly stopped the bleeding))

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How do you know??))

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((he's fucking lying))

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((no he isn't.))

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hes going to die. I cant do shit to help this situation, zeek fucking won. I'm panicking.))

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but im shaking because I cant fucking help))

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I dont even know what to say))

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jesus fucking christ))

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((im already sick and this fucking message didnt help))

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((i literally just fucking threw up))

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((i just threw up))

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can you tell him to get on the padlet))

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yeah))

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((Honestly keep doing it, idrc if he's triggered either. But you don't have to say sorry to him, he's a fucking ass, just not as bad as Zeek (or whoever has zeek's account right now)))

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Im probably doing one of adriens triggers by venting on his padlet but idrc))

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yeah))

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((Just contacted PA about it, sent links to every single post he made about this shit. So yeah, I don't doubt he's getting banned soon.))