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When they began to discuss freedom and the difference between Napoleon and Jones' control, it reminded me of "1984". In one of the passages, I can remember a character saying the quote "freedom is slavery" and asking "how can you have freedom when the concept of freedom has been abolished?" I feel that before the rebellion, or when Animalism was condensed into the seven commandments, the animals had an idea of what freedom was. However, after Napoleon took over, I feel the animals lost the concept of freedom, and actually have the idea that freedom is slavery.

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In 1984 and animal farm, the " freedom is slavery" quote kind of applys to the animals by, the animals were free right? But if you did work on the windmill your rations were increased, where as if you didn't your rations were small

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What happened to the animals courage after Old Major passed? Where did it go & why?

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Freedom to the animals I feel, means not having a ruler at all. To be able to do things on their own and have everyone be equal at the same time

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I feel that a rebellion forming in the farm again might not happen. Aside from the pigs, none of the other animals are fit or probably willing to change how it is. Most of them probably don't even know of the detail of the rebellion and the real purpose behind it, because they're a different generation of animals or were bought from other farms.

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there is a lot of irony in this book. in the beginning , animals want nothing to do with humans. but in the end , they become what they've hated. "the monster youve become ".

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I feel the reason no one protested against Napoleons choices was because they knew things were bad, but they could never be certain. They were lied to the entire time, because they would think that something was changed for the worse (Like the commandments) but then they were told by squealer that they had imagined that it was different before, not that it actually was.

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Is it possible that Snowball attempted to lead rebellions on other farms? These probably would've failed because it's just hard to kill humans, but it could have become his life work.

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What does freedom mean to the other animals?

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i think that the animals did not want a leader at all in the first place. But without one they would be clueless

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I feel that snowball probably ran away and is living alone. I feel like he couldn't handle what was going on in the farm so he just left

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The animals had stood up to Napoleon, while blaming Snowball. Then getting slaughtered afterwards. I think that the death trials was a message for future reference to anyone that decided to oppose his decisions.

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I think the statement about the condition of the animals before and after the rebellion is interesting.  If you think about it, the animals couldn't even remember the time of Jones, so could they really believe that life was better without him, all they knew as of present was that the current conditions were bad.

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I think Snowball lived a peaceful life after he ran away; Snowball dreamed of equality for all animals and wanted to run the farm for the animal's best interest. I think he might have died, but it was a peaceful death, away from Napoleon and away from his then-dormant tyranny. I don't think Snowball chose to live in another farm because it would have been under the control of a human.

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I think that if mayor was still alive everything would be at peace

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I think that the humans would take over the farm because of the fact that they're pigs. Since they're pigs, they don't have any rights or rights to property. If this took place in the real world, I think the police would help stop them.

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I think that the perspective from who told the story was from someone who wasn't really close to them but someone on the outside who knows everyone in the farm enough to tell the story in depth

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I feel that the animals just wanted to live a better life than what they were living so they followed Napoleon because they were treated a little better than before. They did not truly understand what was going on at times so they relied on Napoleon for most things.

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I don't think that napoleon would be able to take over the farm WITHOUT plans.

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Napoleon totally had a motive to take over animal farm. As his enemy was Snowball, and he always had a drive to have Snowball out of his sight!!

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I don't think the dogs were educated at all, they were indoctrinated to do whatever Napoleon said.

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The sheep were taught to say that for a week or so to say that, but the factthat  it didn't take much to get them to say four legs good two legs bad shows that they are just listening , most likely in fear to what they're told to do

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I feel like their faith in Napoleon wouldn't change at all, the sheep would just continue to blindly follow Napoleon

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If I were in the sheeps shoes, I would've felt betrayed. In the beginning Napoleons leadership was grand..but towards the end Napoleon was basically a dictator.

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I feel like the dogs were educated just enough to be the security/the police, but with the pigs, he needed a following or a group that was more intelligent than the rest of the animals. Running the farm by himself would have been too much work with paperwork and monitoring it.

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I feel like the sheep wouldn't care because it wouldn't affect them in any way.

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I feel that the sheep really did not have a good education so they just followed along no matter what anyone else said.

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do you think the other animals would rebel? yes but after they rebel they wouldn't have someone to run the farm and end up dead.

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i believe snowball might've died. all because of the fact that , in that generation , or in any generation really , an animal like him wouldn't be surviving alone for a while. he's a farm animal , and it's different then a wild animal.

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• I feel like the sheep wouldn't acknowledge what they were saying. Squealer brought them out back for multiple days to teach them one word to memorize.

If they had the choice to leave animal farm for being free, the animals that realized they were treated badly didn't see it as an option.

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I feel that the sheep were brainwashed to believe whatever Napoleon said; Squealer used propaganda to convince the animals that Napoleon was always right, and the sheep are almost mindless, so they listened to whatever Napoleon (and the pigs in general) told them.

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I agree with the fact the Napolean planned out taking over the farm because Napolean noticed that he was having problems with Snowball on political issues so he planned to take over the farm by teaching the dogs to respect and listen to him as their master.

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I believe that the sheep weren't that educated,they didn't really care because they thought that Nepolean was always right

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Yes, Snowball would have been a greater leader, but where exactly did he go? What if the farmers decided to come back and rebel, what exactly would snowball do? In all honestly I don't think he would fight back as well napoleon did. I mean yes he was a really bad leader, but he did keep the farm safe.

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i like how he said that pig created an allusion that they did something great to the farm by wearing a medal. which is true cause they wanted to make them selves feel better than the other farm animals

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i personally feel if snowball was the leader things would have turned out better for the animals, in a way i feel since the beginning Naoplean wanted to be a dictator and rule the farm , while snowball main goal was the animal to be treated well

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I believe snowball would be a better leader because he treated the animals equal. Napoleon treated his leadership like it was a dictatership. Snowball treated himself like he was just a reguler animal like the rest of them.

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If snowball was the leader everything would probaly be fair and they would be treated equal

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i think it is there fault because the animals coulve stopped them from doingn that stuff they shoudve spoken up

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I agree with Emily when she says everything Squealer said was propaganda because he was the one to always say something when the worse came upon the animals. He always had something to say, most was fairly negative.

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I think if Snowball was leader, things would have been more fair and equal. I believe the animals would have all followed the 10 commandments.

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I don't think the animals would ever rebel against the pigs because they are either uneducated, unaware of the amendments being changed because they were fooled,  or they just were scared of the dogs and getting killed like the other animals that got prosecuted by Napoleon's dogs

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how did they change the amendments? the pigs change the amendments behind the animals back

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I agree with Luis when he said that the medals are a form of propaganda because it makes the animals believe that he did something great for the farm so the animals dont rebel against him. Although the animals know what he is doing wrong, they still wonder who is going to be their "leader" through this all.

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I want to answer Kim's question, which was how did the commandments connect to the story. It connected because it proved that half of the animals didn't care and the others were being betrayed and since they're uneducated they wouldn't realize. That given, that could change everything up without anyone knowing.

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The pigs are too smart to let another rebellion happen, on top of that, they have far to much power for the other animals to even think about rebelling again.

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I agree with Luis because if Nepoloen wouldnt have worn those badges it would seem like hes not important

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i think the animals would rebel agiants the pigs cause they broke the amendmets which are the laws

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I feel like if they tried to rebel against the pigs the dogs would attack the animals rebelling and there would be huge bloodshed

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I beleive they were better off with Jones because I wouldn't want napoleon taking advantage of the animals even though Mr Jones treated them bad.

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I think that now that they see that the pigs are more like humans, they'll just continue working, they wouldn't have rebelled against jones without the pigs, and without that brain power I don't think they would have the mind capacity to rebel

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i think the animals will rebeal against the pigs such as they did to the humans

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I feel it would be better without jones because yhey can run it the way that wanted to whoch might make them behave and run it right

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I agree with Bri that the animals should rebel against the pigs because the pigs did "everything" they could to "get rid of the humans" but now they are acting like them

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I feel like after the book, what would happen next would be a rebellion. Reason being, is because Orwell ends the novel with the pigs and humans looking into a mirror, not knowing who is who. Honestly, I think that the whole animal farm would change. The way they are being ruled(at least the pigs)

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I believe they were better without Jones, because he mistreated them a lot. Which made the animals rebell on him and become something better. Mr.Jones didn't give the animals a reason to live because he didn't care for them enough.

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I believe they we're better off wittout Jones because if they ran it right it could have turned out way better

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I really liked what Luis said about how the animals had the choice to stay in Animal Farm because they put up with what the pigs ordered but never spoke or chose leave somewhere where they feel more comforable

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I believe that in some ways it was better without jones (ei. Being fed) but I also believe in some ways it wasn't as good without him (ei. Being used simply for what the pigs wanted, to benefit the pigs

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I completely agree with Emily. Mr. Jones did not give the animals a reason to live. Without him they had lives with meaning.

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I feel that the animals probably decided to stay in the farm because it's what they're used to and not all the were very smart so they felt that they might as well just stay at the farm

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i kind of agree with the table in some ways they were better because they learn to control themselves and just be more mentally stable they learned that they are their own bosses ,but at the same time its was kind of like another forms of mr.jones appeared just in a animal like form but having Napolean act more as of a dictor then a leader

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They weren't really better or worse, most of the animals felt that an improvement had been made on the farm, but most of them weren't smart enough to realize that if there were any change at all, it was for the worse.

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