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During the book, Aza expresses how she feels like she is trapped in a body she doesn’t want. She expresses her discomfort about the bacteria that lives within and crawls around her body. Her body does things without her say so and on page 105, she uses the example of sweating, “...I start sweating and I can’t stop, and then I can’t think about anything else except for how I’m sweating. And if you can’t pick what you do or think about, then maybe you aren’t really real, you know?” She doesn’t feel like she's real or truely herself inside a body and mind she didn’t ask for. Then she reunited with Davis and in a text conversation from pages 170-171, Davis tells her how much he likes her body.
How do you think Aza felt in this moment when someone was expressing how much they liked her body when all she ever felt was disgust for it?

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post 3: One suggestion I would make would be to resolve daisy and Aza's argument differently. They just made up so quickly and forgot about the whole incident instantly it just doesn't feel right. Maybe after being friends for so long, people forgive each other easily, but emotions were spilled, they got into a car crash, then just made up through text. I think a more thoughtful conversation addressing what was said and solid reassurances would have been a better way to resolve their fight. Even though daisy said everything was good between them, she knows Aza has anxiety so the things Daisy said can still affect Aza, so I believe a heart-to-heart would have been better instead of brushing it off.

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post 2: the moment that stood out to me was the argument between aza and daisy. It was when I was able to learn about daisy's perspective on what it was like for her to be friends with someone who was mentally ill. All up until that point I only read about what it was like for aza and her struggles and what her unwanted thoughts sounded like. I never thought about how her anxiety impacted the people around her. It's not aza's fault that she's trapped in her head most of the time, but it was interesting to read daisy's pov.

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post 1: I learned that the struggles of those with mental illness are vastly different from someone who doesn't suffer from it. Having someone with mental illness is hard to live with because we don't truly understand the constant war they have with their mind. However, though mental illness is a fight with someone's own mind, it doesn't mean they have to face it alone. The author teaches me this lesson by how the other characters in the book still cares about aza even though her anxiety and absessive complusiveness can get in the way. Examples would be how Davis was so patient and understanding with aza when they were together and how he never pushed for more or complained when she wanted to stop, or how even though Daisy lashed out at Aza, they were still able to make up in the end and the fact that she could have left Aza for other friends, but stayed with her throughout the years.

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Post #4: Why do you think Davis felt the need to leave?

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If I was the editor of this book I would suggest having a mother perspective. Throughout the book Aza's mom wasn't talked about much, but she is a main factor in Aza's life. She went through her husband's death and is now seeing her daughter going through so many things. It would have been more informational to the reader to see how Aza's mom felt and her reactions told in her pov.

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Post #2: what stood out to me most was when Aza drunk the hand sanitizer. It stood out to me because in that moment, Aza had no control over her emotions and what was going through her head. Also because that was the moment when she realized she needed more help and finally talked to her therapist more. It was a final realization for her and it showed a lot.

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Post #1 the greatest lesson I learned was that you need someone to talk to about anything that you're going through. The author taught me this lesson because he showed that Daisy always had the door open for Aza to talk to her and that was always the first thing they did when seeing each other.

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Post #4: Discussion Question; "You think you're the painter, but you're the canvas" (2). Why do you think Aza feels this way? Do you ever feel like this? How much control do you think you have over your life?

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Post #4 Do you think Aza keeps the painting given to her by Davis because she likes it or because still misses Davis even when now she lives a better life?

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Post #3: While I think Turtles All The Way Down was a great book, I think it could have had more. If I were the editor of this book I would have suggested adding different character perspectives. I just think it would be cool to see exactly how Aza was affecting her loved ones and What they thought of her. Those closest to Aza all saw her in a different way, it would have been nice to see how everyone's mind differed when it came to Aza.

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Post #2: What stood out to me the most was when Aza was in the zone of her spiraling moments. When Aza wasn't herself, she would talk to her thoughts and during those moments, in the text we could see how different her dialogue was from the sprial. While her spiral was in Italics, Aza's thoughts tended to be in caps or just normal lettering. The spiral that hit the most was probably the one after kissing Davis. After Aza kissed Davis and let herself be kissed by him, she immediately started having regrets and in a sudden rush of emotions in which she felt like she couldn't control over, she gulped a couple globs of hand sanitizer.

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Post 4: In the book Turtles All the Way Down, what do you think were the positives and negatives of how characters dealt with loss? Which way can you relate to if any?

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Post #1: The greatest lesson I have learned from reading Turtles All The Way Down is that problems that seem small are actually a lot harder to control. For instance, take Aza, she is someone who can't control her spiraling thoughts. To someone that doesn't have Obsessive Compulsion Disorder or anxiety might say that's it's quite easy to stop them but for Aza it was more like someone took over her body and she just couldn't get free. The author taught me this lesson by setting up a conversation between Davis and Aza and having Aza try to explain what was going on inside her head. During that conversation, Davis actually said that Aza could simply stop thinking about them in a matter of seconds if she really tried but deep down she knew she really couldn't and it was much more complicated.

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Post #3: If I were the editor for Turtles All the Way Down I would change how Aza found Davis's father. I think it was a bit too convenient that Daisy and Aza were going to an art show write near where he was hiding. I am not sure how I would get to the ending that Aza found the dead body. I would however change it up a bit, to make it more believable.

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Post #4 - ¨Anybody can look at you. It's quite rare to find someone who sees the same world you see¨ pg.9. From Aza's perspective, what do you believe she meant and how does it pertain towards her?

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Post #3: If I was the editor of this book I would suggested that Aza should keep a journal of how shes feeling at the end of every chapter so we could clearly understand whats shes feeling or thinking after an event has happened.

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post #3- If I were the editor of this reading a suggestion I would make would be to get the story from different perspectives, other than Aza. I read tons of stories where their would be chapters that was told from a different characters view and it would be fascinating. I make this suggestion because even though we still knew some of their thought through Aza , it would bring the characters to life knowing how they were thinking through- out the entire book.

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Post #4: How would the outcome be different if Aza didn’t associate herself with the investigation of Russell Pickett?

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Post #2: The moments that stood out to me in the book were the ones that had the internal battle between Aza and her inner self. This happened a couple of times throughout the major ones in my option were any that involved hand sanitizer and C. diff. Part of why these moments stood out was the emotional ties and how John Green would use a lot of full caps to empathize the different parts of Aza.

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Post #3: One suggestion that I would give the editor of this book is to give us an idea of what Aza's father was like. For example, have certain scenes representing what he was like when he was still alive. I feel this way because Aza's dad had such an impact on her growth and overall development. But we didn't get to see what kind of person he was aside from Aza's brief descriptions of him. So it's only befitting to have a better understanding of his character.

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Post 4: In what other ways do you think that Daisy could have expressed her feelings toward Aza in a way that wasn't through Ayala?

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Post #2 One moment that stood out in me in the text was when Aza just put a mouthful of hand sanitizer in her mouth because she thought she wasn't clean enough and needed more. And the fact that she didn't even do it by herself in the room but her mother was there with her, so I was more surprised that she did it with her mother in the room.

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post #2- The moment that stood out to me the most in the reading was when Aza finally deemed her self worthy to love. Because I believe everybody in fact is but Aza mind made her believe she wasn´t good enough to be loved and that her OCD would cause her to have an un-normal relationship. Also, how she said her first love; Davis taught her that she was capable of being loved.

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Post #4: In the book, Davis hands Aza money that he had pulled out of a cereal box. The money was a large sum and he had mentioned that this kind of rolled up money was everywhere. What do you think could he money indicate? What were the intentions that Mr.Pickett could have had to put all the money in ordinary items?

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Post 3: If I was an editor for this book, one suggestion that I would make would be to give us even more looks into Aza's head as she goes through her thought spirals, because it would allow us to understand her as a character even more.

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Post #2: The moment where Aza demonstrated to Daisy what it was like being in her shoes and having this mental disorder stood out to me the most. This is the case because Daisy didn't quite understand what Aza was going through, and even implied that her mental illness was a part of their friendship deteriorating back during their altercation. So giving Daisy a sense of what that was like gave me an odd feeling of satisfaction. Aza going into depth as to what her inner demon looks like also helped me as a reader to further understand where she was coming from.

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Post #1 The greatest lesson I learned from reading the book is that it is okay for you to not be mentally okay and you can still have people love you. How the author showed me this lesson was how there were many situations Aza got into and was still loved, for example like how her and daisy were arguing in the car about how her disorder is messing up their friendship and that she doesn't seem to know anything about her situation or her life. But after the life threatening situation they both realized their mistake and forgave each other.

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Post #1: One of the greater lessons I expanded from reading this book is to do with how people with mental illness will not all have the same problems and deal with the problems differently. John Green showcased this by having Aza not just have one set problem and mindset but evolving and giving deeper insight into different parts of her personality and identity.

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Post #3: If I was the editor for this book I would recommend adding different perspectives of the different characters and how they see Aza. I say this because we only can see from Aza's point of view but, I would like to see Daisy's, Davis's and Aza's Mom point of view because they all have contrasting mindsets.

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Post #3: If I was the editor for this book I would recommend adding different perspectives of the different characters and how they see Aza. I say this because we only can see from Aza's point of view but, I would like to see Daisy's, Davis's and Aza's Mom point of view because they all have contrasting mindsets.

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Post #1- The greatest lesson I learned from the reading is that, everyone struggles with a hardship that they don´t go around and share. And it is quite often that their struggles are presented on them by the actions they preform and interpreted different from others; assumptions. The author taught me this lesson by telling me the stories of the characters and assumptions the people around them had. For instance, Aza´s mom assumptions about Davis.

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Post 2: The moment that stood out most to me in the text was argument Daisy and Aza were having before they crashed. To me, this scene made it clear that Daisy just couldn't understand what it was like to be living with a mental illness.

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Post #2: The moment in the text that stood out to me the most was when Aza had ate hand sanitizer because I think the text did a good job of showing that a battle within yourself is something that many people go through and sometimes you can lose but, they've tried their best and gave it their all.

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Post #1: I learned that communication is key whether in a friendship or other relationships. Knowing how to express yourself and your problems are important when building upon relationships and maintaining them. The author taught me this through Aza and Daisy's argument that lead to them getting into a car accident.

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Post 1 : The greatest lesson I learned from this book is that having OCD is way deeper than just being a neat-freak. It is more about being flooded with a tsunami of thoughts, or being trapped in a spiral of them. The author taught this lesson by showing us Aza's thought spirals throughout the book.

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Post #1: The greatest lesson I have learned from reading this book is to understand that if you don't voice your opinions, people around you won't always be able to guess what you are thinking.  I learned this from every character and their misunderstandings between relationships together like Aza and Daisy.

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Post #4: “Of course, you pretend to be the author.” This the quote in which Aza ended the last sentence of the first page with. Because you have now read the full book, what do you think Aza meant with this comment she made?

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Post #3: If I were the editor of this book, I would mention Noah's name more. It would go from him losing motivation at the beginning of the story to Aza helping him find a way to cope with his sadness towards the end. Would you have wanted Noah to be brought up more in the book?

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Post #2: The moment in the text that stood out to me the most was when Aza was going to see Davis for the first time. During that visit, her intentions were to find any clues concerning where Davis's father went so that she could receive the $100,000 reward. After that visit, her visits were to watch movies, hang out, and more. Why do you think her reason to go to Davis's house changed?

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1) Aza’s mom is very protective of her.  Before Aza goes out with Davis, Aza’s mom insists on speaking with him.  She tells him ‘“Aza is not some girl from the other side of the river… And I know you can have anything the moment you want it, and that can make a person think the world belongs to them, that people belong to them.  But I hope you understand you are not entitled to--”’ (143).  Here Aza interjects.  Both Aza and her mom realize that Davis has started to cry.  After they leave the house, Davis says, ‘“She’s wrong that I can have anything I want whenever I want it.”’  Aza asks, “‘What do you want that you don’t have?”’  Davis replies, ‘“A mother for starters”’  (144).
a) What assumptions does Aza’s mom make about Davis?  What are these assumptions based on?  Is it fair for her to make these assumptions?  Why or why not?
b) Tell the story of a time when you made an incorrect assumption about someone else.  What was it based on?  How did you realize you were wrong?  How did this impact you?

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If I was the editor of the book I would have told the author to including more of a backstory on Russell Pickett. I would’ve said this to the author because I really wanted to see Russell Pickett’s journey before he became a billionaire and also detailed events on what led to his death. I’m pretty sure this would’ve also been amusing to every other reader of this book.

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Something that stood out to me was when I first saw the book talking about how Aza would drink hand sanitizer. This stands out to me because she’s so worried about the bacteria in her body that she thinks drinking hand sanitizer can make it better, when in reality it is extremely dangerous to drink hand sanitizer and it also led to her vomiting.

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Post #1: The lesson that I immediately thought of while reading this book is don't make assume people's character while only looking at them from an external point of view. For example, from looking at Aza as one of her classmates, you might think that she is just a student, yet Daisy, her best friend knows that she has constant "battles" with her own thoughts everyday.

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The greatest lesson I learned from reading this book is that everyone has their own sort of problems that are different. Everyone is going through something that’s hard. The author taught me this lesson through the characters. Aza, has a problem where she’s scared about the bacteria in her body and that causes her to act different from everyone else. Davis, is facing hard times after the loss of his father and he is confused. Russel Pickett was found dead and he was a billionaire which means even he had something that was giving him hard times as well. Daisy, was having a hard time being Aza’s friend as she states it’s hard because Aza is selfish.

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Post 4- “I’ve got a theory about uniforms. I think they design them so that you become, like, a nonperson, so that you’re not Daisy Ramirez, a Human Being, but instead a thing that brings people pizza and exchanges their tickets for plastic dinosaurs. It’s like the uniform is designed to hide me.” Do you agree or disagree with Daisy? why or why not? Do you think this statement can relate to anything else?

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Post 3 - If I was the editor for this book, I would suggest to see Aza win the dispute against the voice in her head more often. I say this because we are shown that whatever the voice in her head tells her to do she does it. I would like to see her overcome this problem to help show us that we are in control and not some voice in our head.

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Post #4: "Dr. Singh placed her feet on the floor and leaned forward, her hands on her knees. 'That’s very interesting,' she said. 'Very interesting.' I felt briefly proud to be, for a moment anyway, not not uncommon. “It must be very scary, to feel that your self might not be yours. Almost a kind of . . . imprisonment?"(107). Why does Aza feel imprisoned in her own head? Explain. Use textual evidence to support your answer.

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Post #2: I think the one moment in this book that stood out to me the most was when we found out that Davis and Noah were the ones who told the cops where their father was. I was surprised by this because if they did not tell the cops where Mr. Pickett was then they would have had a mansion and lots of money for at least seven years. Instead Davis and Noah tell the cops on where their dead dad was because they thought it would would sit easier for them.

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Post #2 - A moment that stood out to me the most was when Aza and Daisy got into a car crash. This stood out to me most because in this moment of time we see many things. The sadness of Aza losing her father's belongings after the crash, we see the anger and frustration of Daisy before the crash, and we see the concern they had for each other during the crash.

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Post #1: The biggest lesson I learned from reading Turtles All the Way Down was some people don't have control of their actions and mind. The author gives an example in chapter 18 when Daisy is yelling at Aza for being selfish, Aza then tells Daisy "but imagine being actually stuck inside my head with no way out". This shows that Aza is not in control of her mind all the time and can't be alone from her mind telling her what to do.

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Post #1- The greatest lesson I learned was probably from Aza. All throughout the book she would psych herself out with anxiety and fears of something she didn't even have. I also noticed how she tried to do everything by herself and didn't want any help even though the help of people like her mother or Daisy would've help her greatly.

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Post #1 - The greatest lesson from this book is that knowing our problems will be with us and we have to get through this together rather than us doing it by ourselves. The author taught us this lesson by writing this book and using Aza. Aza has anxiety and obsessive-compulsive disorder. She struggles through her life with the loss of her father.

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Post #3: If I was an editor for this book I would suggest keeping Davis and Noah's conversation about deciding to tell the cops where their dad was in the story. We would be able to see the real reason they told the cops and why they did not just stay rich for seven more years.

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Post 1 -The greatest lesson I learned from this book was how to not  put all the pressure on yourself. I learned this from when Aza kept trying struggling to get over things her self. Although they would be easier when someone was there to help.