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The horses that blindly followed the pigs

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Old Major was the most important character in the first two chapters, and responsible for the entire plot happening. Moses hasn't done all that much yet, but I feel like he'll be relevant and I'm interested to see what kind of chaos he causes.

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The main manner in which this goes against communist principles is that the results of labor are being stolen by a single person, who did not do all of the work necessary in order to gain such benefits by themselves. Instead of everyone having the milk split between them, only one animal has the milk, making them unequal to the other animals.

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being able to read is knowledge so if the animals can read then they can learn about communism and how animals are oppressed. also if you can read and write you can make propaganda.

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old major and snowball because they are/were leaders and seem important

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Majority of the farm followed the swines unconditionally at first, especially the horses, but a few didn't such as moses and the rabbit

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Majority of the farm followed the swines unconditionally at first, especially the horses, but a few didn't such as moses and the rabbit

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also old major, napolean, and snowball

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they are the only ones who can read the commandments so they can change them and then say that they were always like that

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they are the only ones who can read the commandments so they can change them and then say that they were always like that

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snowball and old major

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reading

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That he knew that the humans could not keep controlling them. Also how he knew they were being treated unfairly.

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It stood out how he knew most things that were happening in such great detail.

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ghng its del id ont feel like signing in

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ghng its del id ont feel like signing in

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the horses reminded me of a certain party

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well, they can basically tell anyone what something say's, and they will believe it cause they cannot read

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well, they can basically tell anyone what something say's, and they will believe it cause they cannot read

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The first one states "If it walks on two legs its an enemy" wheras the second one states "If it walks on four legs or has wings it is a friend." This is completely contradictory as birds have two legs and wings so what is the priority of these two? Are birds friends or enemies?

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who probably are anarchists or something idk
gena your padlet is bad

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knowing that the animals could not control themselves

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They can spread misinformation because no one else can read or write

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well, in a perfect communistic society anyone's resources belong's to everyone else. and hoarding resources such as that, isn't exactly communistic

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well, in a perfect communistic society anyone's resources belong's to everyone else. and hoarding resources such as that, isn't exactly communistic

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The main advantage is the fact that the pigs are now much more educated, and can easily create plans in order to gain more power without the other animals knowing, as they cannot read. They also have an education, which reflects the power that those with access to knowledge have over those too poor to afford it. The animals will also have to follow what they say, as they do not have any knowledge themselves, which allows rules to be warped for the pigs' gain.

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how horribly the animals were treated. from their point of view, they're slaves

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The animal couldn’t control themselves

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the pigs know more then the rest of the animals and since they can read

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neither to cows or the community gets to benefit from the product of their labor

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No other animals can read, so they can effectively control what other people think things say to warp things in their favor; they can do this to "change" the rules, for example.

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No other animals can read, so they can effectively control what other people think things say to warp things in their favor; they can do this to "change" the rules, for example.

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old major because he made his big speech that started the whole rebellion

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old major because he made his big speech that started the whole rebellion

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in communism evry one gets what they need; or at least in true communism. in this there seems to be a sort of hierarchy which would make this socialism
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wondering if birds get along or not

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He literally stole it behind everybody's backs. Hoarding resources and not sharing equally isn't communist at all

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he knew that what the humans were doing to the animals and how they were controlling them was not ok

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he knew that what the humans were doing to the animals and how they were controlling them was not ok

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In theory they're fair, but there seem to be some pretty obvious loopholes and things that they miss, and I'm expecting the way they define humans and nonhumans (read: friends and enemies) to cause problems. They're chosen to reduce the ideology down to something more simple, but it seems like that may cause problems.

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In theory they're fair, but there seem to be some pretty obvious loopholes and things that they miss, and I'm expecting the way they define humans and nonhumans (read: friends and enemies) to cause problems. They're chosen to reduce the ideology down to something more simple, but it seems like that may cause problems.

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i think they're fair for the time being, but they can be easily exploited

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i think they're fair for the time being, but they can be easily exploited

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this gives them power, and makes them more respected. they could use this power unfairly

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I think rule three is kind of unnecessarily controlling, but the rest seem like they are up to a lot of interpretation. if the animals have the same interpretation it seems fine. They will most likely cause unrest and fighting in the community.

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they can make things up and say it says one thing when it actually doesn't say that 

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they can make things up and say it says one thing when it actually doesn't say that 

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He seems cool I hope they bring him back and do more character devolpment

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For me, the main thing that stood out is how accurately Old Major is describing worker exploitation, despite not being human. In the book, he describes how the animals are worked to death, treated horribly, and have no rights, making it incredibly difficult to survive for more than a few years.

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i think the commandments seem fine at first, but someone will probably accidentally break an unimportant one and be exiled or something.

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it goes against communist principles because we know napoleon was the one who stole it because he was like "haha go back up to the farmhouse and leave me with this milk trust me i'll dispose of it and won't use it for myself" and that's hoarding resources for himself

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it goes against communist principles because we know napoleon was the one who stole it because he was like "haha go back up to the farmhouse and leave me with this milk trust me i'll dispose of it and won't use it for myself" and that's hoarding resources for himself

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the commandments are a little unfair because they making the animals do certain things  and allowing the pigs to do whatever they want

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They have the advantage to communicate with each other, and have more social power.

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they are pretty fair its nice they included the birds

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they are pretty fair its nice they included the birds

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old major because he was one of the most intelligent ones

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he mainly describes how that, there is no freedom for the animals, no rights, and that they have to only reach out and take it and live in a world governed and worked by animals

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Communist Principles entitle everyone to equal resources, and if the pigs stole the milk, they're already using their position of power to break the rules and get more resources than what any of the other animals have.  

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Communist Principles entitle everyone to equal resources, and if the pigs stole the milk, they're already using their position of power to break the rules and get more resources than what any of the other animals have.  

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now all of what was there is gone. It means one of the animals went behind the others back and stole it.

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now all of what was there is gone. It means one of the animals went behind the others back and stole it.

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there good in theory but there are some problems. snakes don't have legs and so by there commandments are friends.

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one of the pigs was the last one seen with the milk. they probably drank it. its hypocritical for them to preach communist principles and then steal goods from their community

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The Pigs being able to read would put them above everybody else, as they could easily use this power to change the commandments, and they're the only ones who can physically add new ones. With this power they might also claim they're over the other animals and take cotnrol.

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all of them are kind of relevant for establishing a perfect communist society. but a few can potentially stunt growth. such as no trade with the outside or no clothes can ever be worn. but again, all are either good or not that bad

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I believe that the pigs stood out the most, particularly Old Major, as they are the leaders of this new farm, and all have surprisingly interesting and often charismatic personalities. However, Mollie is particularly interesting, as she represents someone who benefits from capitalism and wishes to keep her privilege, which I feel as if could create some interesting satire about how capitalists react to communism.

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It goes against The rules of communism.

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I feel as if these commandments certainly had the right idea, however, the amount of clear and obvious loopholes only makes it inevitable that someone will exploit them. They are fair in theory, however, it is likely that these could easily become something else, especially as the pigs can so easily gaslight the other animals. These rules were all chosen in order to prevent the animals from becoming human, and thus similar to Mr. Jones, such as the fact that they are banned from drinking alcohol, so they will not transform into alcoholics, like him.

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napoleon

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the piggs who seem to be the smartest and the leaders.

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he says that humans have tormented the animals and they should rebell

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the way they killed the dogs bc i did not know that

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the way they killed the dogs bc i did not know that

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He knew what was happening and only mentioned it as he was about to die.

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He knew what was happening and only mentioned it as he was about to die.

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Having the ability to read can put them in charge of everything that requires brains and also lets them get extra of things for the use of keeping them alive so that they can rule over everyone else.

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They are fair rules other than the fact that there are lots of loopholes to exploit them

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It's a little suspicious because it gives somebody more than everyone else.