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this chapter talks about the love that Winston and Julia feel, their love is so important and pure that they are fighting against all borders and obstacles that they face. this is a really good romance story that since it started is getting well developed. they are fighting threw all obstacles because including the government this is a really high risk because they can get caught and they can go to jail. if that happens they are decided to give even their life in order to save their love, also they are decided to say everything that they have lived.

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This chapter talks about the love between Julia and Wiston. Here we can see that Wiston will give his life in order to protect their love and stay loyal to her. When there is true love, it does not matter the sacrifice that you have to do, the only thing that matters is that you love that person. Sometimes love does not go the way you want. In the book, their love is illegal. They can get caught in any moment. That is why Wiston tell Julia that if that happens, that they will need to sacrifice even their life. I think that Wiston trully loves her, BUT I don't think that she loves him. They will comfess everything that they have done to BB, if they get caught. But, if both of them don't open their mouths, nobody will found out. They can "Deny it al"

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Yes! I do think their thought process is childish. Julia and Winston seem to be very in love with each other and will do whatever they can to protect their love. I think it is stupid for them think this way. A government who kills whoever seems to have just a trace of "Thoughtcrime" will forgive your life from any offense committed against their regimen? I think they will be killed whether they tell the government or not. Sooner or later, their romance will be discovered and they will die. To be honest, I can't think of an easier plan than this. Yes, I think is childish and foolish but if they want to destroy the government, they should do whatever it takes. They should not risk their opportunity to destroy the government to confess their love for each other.

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NO… I don’t think their thought process is childish, I think it’s a proof of their love. I think if it is true love each partner will stay loyal and faithful until the end. Mostly, in Winston and Julia’s situation, since the beginning they both knew that going against the Party could get them killed or torture but they did it anyway. Their love is strong enough to bare the fact that even if they get caught they’ll know they loved and were loved. Of course, there are a lot things that could go wrong. One of them is, what if only Winston gets caught and BB tortures him until he breaks and tells the truth or with Julia. I think Julia, Winston and O’Brien should gather as much help as they can to at least try to escape from BB. I don’t think they can beat BB, they are too strong and the only way is to try to escape. Love will never be accepted by the Party and if their love is strong enough to handle getting killed and torture they can handle a get a way plan. 

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NO… I don’t think their thought process is childish, I think it’s a proof of their love. I think if it is true love each partner will stay loyal and faithful until the end. Mostly, in Winston and Julia’s situation, since the beginning they both knew that going against the Party could get them killed or torture but they did it anyway. Their love is strong enough to bare the fact that even if they get caught they’ll know they loved and were loved. Of course, there are a lot things that could go wrong. One of them is, what if only Winston gets caught and BB tortures him until he breaks and tells the truth or with Julia. I think Julia, Winston and O’Brien should gather as much help as they can to at least try to escape from BB. I don’t think they can beat BB, they are too strong and the only way is to try to escape. Love will never be accepted by the Party and if their love is strong enough to handle getting killed and torture they can handle a get a way plan. 

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·         At the very end of the chapter Winston and Julia agree that “only feelings matter… they can say anything, but they can’t make you believe it”...they believe that as long as they confess their sins to the government but keep their feelings true to each other, they’re really not sacrificing too much… even though they know the government can vaporize them, kill them, and torture them. Do you think they’re thought process is childish, or not? Can you find any fault in their plan, or in your mind? What should they do instead to make their plan less shaky and dangerous?

At the end of the chapter Winston and Julia was thinking about to confess but they want to have their feeling true to each other telling true to what they make. They want to rebel all the bad things that make with big brother the acts of rebellion. But they can have bad consequences they can vaporize or kill by the government. So Julia and Winston they think the love of them will still alive and don’t will vaporize or sacrifice too much. My opinion I think is bad that they confess all the things they done because it doesn’t matter if they confess so if the government find all the things they will have a consequence to be kill.

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At the very end of the chapter Winston and Julia agree that only feelings matter they can say anything, but they cant make you believe it...they believe that as long as they confess their sins to the government but keep their feelings true to each other, they are really not sacrificing too much even though they know the government can vaporize them, kill them, and torture them. Do you think they are thought process is childish, or not? Can you find any fault in their plan, or in your mind. What should they do instead to make their plan less shaky and dangerous?

I agree with Winston and Julia, they will be fine if they keep their secretes and sins to their selves, I don't think that they are being childish . I think that they are risking a lot because they have real feelings to each other. Things will be harder for BB and government if they don't say anything about each other. I think that in order for them to make their plan less dangerous they need to find more people that wants to rebel against government to. cause it is  easier to defeat a person itself than a group. When talking about what Julia and Winston agreed on I think that that is true also for real life stories. I think that if you feel something for someone there is not a person that can make you change your opinion about him or her. Love is a strong word full of power and if they keep loving each other as hard they will have the power to remain strong and brave. It is easier to do thing when you know that you have someone by your side and it is important not to betray that person.

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Winston and Julia were thinking about confessing the government all the things they have done. They think that it will be better to them if they confess the BB all the rebellion acts, instead of getting caught. Winston and Julia beleive each other and the love they have. They believe each other and think that the real betray is not what hey have done to the government, the real betrayal will be if they turn each other. Personally, I think that they need a better plan to beat BB, they are giving up to easy. They maybe should ask O'Brien for a new strategy, or for a opinion/advice about the thing they were about to do.

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The quote at the end is very true. It does not matter what happens if you love someone, you will do anything for that person. It does not matter anything just the fact that they love each other. This chapter is about Winston telling Julia that if they get caught, they can be tortured, killed and vaporized, but they must remain loyal to each other. Winston might keep that word, but Julia, I do not think so. I think that Julia is in love with Winston, but she won’t die for him. I think that she will be the one betraying Winston at the end if they get caught.  I think that instead of doing that, they should be starting to convince people to rebel against BB. Also, they should try to be discrete.

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Winston and Julia are thinking about confessing there acts and are willing to accept the. Consequences they think that if they confess they won't be sacrificing that much because they will keep loving themselves. I think this is a very childish thought because they should never confess, they know that if they do they can get vaporized or killed but they think that if they still love each other they won't be sacrificing that much 🤡

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Since Julia and Winston meet, we know that they have something. At first they only were together because they want to, but now they are together because of true love. They know that the things that they made have big consequences and government can vaporized or torture them. For them don't matter what the government know they want is to demonstrate real love. they knew that something can happen to them but to be together make them feel strong. maybe if they have more people they can rebel against government, they need more help of other people. O'Brien can be a lot of help for them, he can help them rebel.-Hector

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We know that Julia and Winston have had something since the beginning of book 2. Winston knew that Julia wanted to rebel but they started playing checkers. However they both discussed about a rebellion and finally, they started rebelling with small actions. In my opinion their relation is a good one, because both are seeking to take down the government. They both know that what government has done is bad. One thing I think they are doing wrong is to take rebellion to far, risking their lives for love. It is ok that they love each other bout not risking their lives. What I think they should do, is to play less shaky, because the government can do something before they decide to finally rebel. Love is good for human health, but to risk your life, I dont think is a good idea, and also they want to take down the government they shall be alive.

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Chapter7 book 2 Discussion Prompt: At the very end of the  chapter Winston and Julia agree that “only feelings matter… they can say anything, but they can’t make you believe it”...they believe that as long as they confess their sins to the government but keep their feelings true to eachother, they’re really not sacrificing too much… even though they know the government can vaporize them, kill them, and torture them. Do you think they’re thought process is childish, or not? Can you find any fault in their plan, or in your mind. What should they do instead to make their plan less shaky and dangerous?

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Chapter7 book 2 Discussion Prompt: At the very end of the  chapter Winston and Julia agree that “only feelings matter… they can say anything, but they can’t make you believe it”...they believe that as long as they confess their sins to the government but keep their feelings true to eachother, they’re really not sacrificing too much… even though they know the government can vaporize them, kill them, and torture them. Do you think they’re thought process is childish, or not? Can you find any fault in their plan, or in your mind. What should they do instead to make their plan less shaky and dangerous?

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What Julia and Winston are doing is an act of rebellion they are loving each other and they feel satisfied of what they are doing but this is not enough because they are just a couple and big brother won't notice at all. They are sacrificing too much and maybe this will cost the life for them and they won't be able to rebel and get ride of the rules of big brother. What they are doing now is good start but it is too dangerous. I think that O'Brien can help them and if Winston trust and follow him it will get better. maybe O'Brien has a better plan and remember that the union makes the force. O'Brien has a better plan Winston should trust on him and ask him for help.

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At the very end of the  chapter Winston and Julia agree that “only feelings matter… they can say anything, but they can’t make you believe it”...they believe that as long as they confess their sins to the government but keep their feelings true to eachother, they’re really not sacrificing too much… even though they know the government can vaporize them, kill them, and torture them. Do you think they’re thought process is childish, or not? Can you find any fault in their plan, or in your mind. What should they do instead to make their plan less shaky and dangerous?

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At the very end of the  chapter Winston and Julia agree that “only feelings matter… they can say anything, but they can’t make you believe it”...they believe that as long as they confess their sins to the government but keep their feelings true to eachother, they’re really not sacrificing too much… even though they know the government can vaporize them, kill them, and torture them. Do you think they’re thought process is childish, or not? Can you find any fault in their plan, or in your mind. What should they do instead to make their plan less shaky and dangerous?

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I think that this quote is very true. When we love someone or when we feel something for someone or something (but real feelings) we don't care what other people say about that person or thing, we do not let someone's opinion change how we feel. This is how we should think in real life too. This thought they had is not childish at all. I think that what they are feeling is true love because they are willing to be vaporized, killed or tortured by the government in order to keep their feelings to each other untouched. I think that the fact that they know that they can be catchd and tortured or killed and thinking what would they do shows us that they are mature enough to think all thinks that may happen. Sometimes we feel that nobody can get to us, we feel unbeatable and that is when we are vulnerable to be defeated by others. I think that Winston and Julia should find a way of getting together with other people who want to rebel against BB, this would give them more chances. Maybe O'Brien can be a big help to them. What if O'Brien is part of a group of people that want to rebel against the government? The Brotherhood, maybe?

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The process is childish, because with the emotion you can not change anything. I think it is childish because they know what can happen to them, but they still want to continue with the pan rolling. The real betrayal is that they will stop loving one and other. They don't know how big the risk can be in the future. They will be only base on sentiment, and it is difficult just to base on sentiments, because they are unstable. To do the plan less shaky they can make a meeting with O'Brien, because he can have better plans. I think this can help, because O'Brien can make them attack in group and not individual as the plan is going right now.

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Winston and Julia thinks that the confession is not a betrayal. The government didn't care about their acts of rebellion. If they love each other there will be more communication and trust.  Whatever," they say (roughly speaking,) "as long as we stay true to each other." Whatever," they say (roughly speaking,) "as long as we stay true to each'''. They both know that if they caught them they will torture. Winston has always believe that he kills his mother but his dreams prove other wise. I think Winston should talk to O'Brien listen to his plan.

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Winston and Julia think that the real betrayal is not the one where the government realizes that they have been rebelling, but it is the one where they turn on each other. They think that if they keep their love towards each other they are not sacrificing too much. Maybe they think that their love will protect them from the government or make them feel safer. I think that they feel like this because they don’t care if the government knows what they have been doing because they both feel satisfied with it and do not regret it. We all know that if both are loving and seeing each other they are already rebelling, but that plan is too childish and not enough to defeat BB. They need a better plan and maybe they should look for help. A good idea might be to start with O’Brien (maybe he has a better plan), he could do the first move and then all of them act together. If they work together, then they would get more people and feel safer and finally try to defeat BB.

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Pasion (including emotions such as love and hate) is what makes us human. Whatever supresses our passion becomes a god for us and makes us less human; and Yes, this can be harmful for anyone. In Winton´s case for example, placing his emotions before anything is a refuse to accept the government as a god: it counterattacks the government´s efforts to control and hurt him. Evidently, this process might look childish, but it is the best Winston and Julia can do to give their fight some meaning. Yes, this way of acting has led to shaky and dangerous plans. A solution for his plans is to learn from others, find out what they have done wrong and avoid that. The first step to this solution is to talk with O´Brien. This could definetely encourage their faith in such a hopeless world as theirs.
I can´t imagine myself as Winston or pretend his situation is less complex, but if I could advice him, I would say this: ¨Unless you die, keep going.¨

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They think that no matter what, their love will protect them from the party. I think this way of thinking is childish and will end up in them getting arrested by the party. Their spirit can be broken by torture and I believe it will happen later on the book. Saying that, I believe they are right on something, the party can't control their feelings for now. By loving each other they are already rebelling against Big Brother but that's not enough. They should make a plan to find other like them, maybe start with O'Brien. The more people they can get the better, and if possible or even real they should find the Brotherhood, they might have a safe house or some other way to protect each other and try to go against the government.