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Why aren't students in middle school held accountable to increase learning?

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Kelli, James, Janice, Leigh Ann, and Andrea

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Kelli, James, Janice, Leigh Ann, and Andrea

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We noticed a huge decline from 5th to 6th grade and the success at the 3rd grade level.

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The English Only students flat lined while R-FEP and I-FEP perform better. Is it a matter of grit? Since those kids had to overcome a language barrier, did that experience give them more grit and willingness to persist when they encounter more of the difficult test questions?

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Discussed decline from elementary to middle school. Our language learners are testing better than our EO's. Not tested in 9th and 10 grade. The data makes it look like we need self-contained beginner class.

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PHMS - Marruffo, Pattison, Withers, Jensen, Mercer, Neyhart

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PHMS - Marruffo, Pattison, Withers, Jensen, Mercer, Neyhart

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We had a conversation about the possible reasons why the data has been stagnant in growth in recent years. We feel that the money spent on programs in ineffective. We would like to see the money be spent on providing resources such as bilingual aides that can assist with needs within the classroom and also look at going back to a modified classroom day. It would be great to see a bigger part of the instructional day to be spent in a primary language classroom.

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What is the new CELDT test going to be like? Will there be such a drastic dip from 5th to 6th grade still with the new format?
Why isn't DIBELS still utilized in grades beyond 3rd grade?

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Is DIBELS part of the reason for the success seen in 3rd grade? If so, why don't we use it in Middle School?

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What are we doing with our R-FEPs that is working so well?

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How does this compare to data which follows a specific cohort of students?

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We noticed as they get older, the scores seem to level out

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We noticed as they get older, the scores seem to level out

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Do not understand what it stands for

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Why do the scores continually go down. Obviously what we are doing is not working.

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RCMS Cool Kids Table: 11th grade dropoff

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RCMS Cool Kids Table: 11th grade dropoff

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Is it possible that the 11th grade dropoff is because last year's Juniors had never taken the SBAC??? They maaaaybe took the 8th grade SBAC in the Pilot year? But they had not taken it year-to-year as juniors, and the Math exam in particular is WEEEEEEIRD... good luck drawing that parabola or slope-intercept graph with a MOUSE!

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The steady percentage drop among ELs in both Math and ELA

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I noticed that from grade 3 onwards the results are mostly downhill in terms of achievement levels in ELA and math. Also, the gap between sub-groups is not narrowing significantly.

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I noticed that from grade 3 onwards the results are mostly downhill in terms of achievement levels in ELA and math. Also, the gap between sub-groups is not narrowing significantly.

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Why is there such a wide gap at the beginning of math and it is narrower in 11th grade

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I noticed that English Learner's scores consistently drop from 3rd to 11th grade. How are they regressing so much??

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We wonder if the state new assessment is affecting the data for EL's and EO's

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The English language is not practiced at home, therefore, their English language acquisition slows as they progress through school.  Sometimes, school is the only place they speak English.

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I wonder how we can  improve the drop in scores between 5th and 6th grade.

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Why is there such a significant drop from 5th to 6th?

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We noticed is that the "English only" students are not meeting or exceeding standards 

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We noticed is that the "English only" students are not meeting or exceeding standards 

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Why were the R-FEPS so high in 3rd grade and out performing all the way through 5th?

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Why were the R-FEPS so high in 3rd grade and out performing all the way through 5th?

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Why did English learners drop in 6th and stay stagnant all through Middle school in ELA?

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In briefly analyzing the data it is very clear that we need to do a better job at monitoring and supporting RFEP students in both ELA and Math.  We also think that we need bumper rails (like in bowling) for the transition from 5th to 6th grade instead of just letting student fall in the gutter.

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Our group noticed that there was an overall drop in scores between 5th to 6th grade. What is happening?

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That the achievement of ELs steadily decreases as they continue their education.

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I wonder what is happening between elementary and middle school from 5th to 6th grade that is causing our PSUSD Overall scores to drop significantly.

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ith all the effort we put into EL there seems to be a steady decline.

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ith all the effort we put into EL there seems to be a steady decline.

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I noticed that our math performance takes a big hit from elementary to middle school.  The middle school math program is relatively new so we'll see if we improve in the next few years...

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I noticed that our math performance takes a big hit from elementary to middle school.  The middle school math program is relatively new so we'll see if we improve in the next few years...

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RCMS Cool Kids Table: Apples to apples or apples to oranges?

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RCMS Cool Kids Table: Apples to apples or apples to oranges?

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I wonder what the numbers look like following the same cohort of students? (I.e. Instead of 2016 6th and 7th and 8th grades, how about comparing 2016 8th grade with their own 2015 7th grade and 2014 6th grade scores?

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What we are doing correct- with ELL we seen ti take care of their needs

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What we are doing correct- with ELL we seen ti take care of their needs

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Why is the drop-off so significant from 5th grade to 6th grade? Did 2015 SBAC results show a similar drop? Is it the transition from ES to MS? Was it just that year's kids?

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I-FEP and R-FEP have the higher percentages of meeting and exceeding

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I-FEP and R-FEP have the higher percentages of meeting and exceeding

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English only aren't scoring much higher. Are they being ignored because we assume they they will naturally learn because they know English?

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English only aren't scoring much higher. Are they being ignored because we assume they they will naturally learn because they know English?

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R-FEPs are scoring better than English only students.

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For Math I wonder why we have such a significant decline in exceeding our standards. 

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For Math I wonder why we have such a significant decline in exceeding our standards. 

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In both areas, IFEP and RFEP start out well ahead, but the gap between them and the English only tends to shrink over time.

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In both areas, IFEP and RFEP start out well ahead, but the gap between them and the English only tends to shrink over time.

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A math coach is available on site, After school and during school interventions are available.

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While PSUSD and English only have a slightly increasing trend, R-Fep, I-Fep and EL trend downward overall.

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We are engaging the younger ELLs  more effectively than the older ones.

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All seem to be going down except 8th grade for IFep.

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All seem to be going down except 8th grade for IFep.

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In Math I-FEP students rock it then drop off

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In Math I-FEP students rock it then drop off

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I wonder what would happen as we collect more data? I seems that EL's scores seem to dip as they move up grade levels. It becomes crucial for teachers in the higher grades to become adept at integrating ELD lessons into their content.

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I wonder what would happen as we collect more data? I seems that EL's scores seem to dip as they move up grade levels. It becomes crucial for teachers in the higher grades to become adept at integrating ELD lessons into their content.

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We are noticing that only one year of data is represented on the graph.  This makes us question how the graph may change over time.  Also, students who appear on the graph in elementary grades have had several years of CCSS transition during important formative years to support their SBAC performance. It makes sense that they would be able to achieve at higher levels, whereas older students are missing the foundation in CCSS during early years.

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How transitions between Elementary and Middle school culture affects how students learn.

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6th Grade is a pivotal time for upward or downward progress in ELA.  There is something that it causing a shift that is leading students toward or away from ELA  proficiency.  The question is, "What is going on in 6th grade and what as educators do we need to do better or what more do we need to do?

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6th Grade is a pivotal time for upward or downward progress in ELA.  There is something that it causing a shift that is leading students toward or away from ELA  proficiency.  The question is, "What is going on in 6th grade and what as educators do we need to do better or what more do we need to do?

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Is the fact that this is a new test effect the data?

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I noticed that when it comes to math, students struggle across the board.

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Overall has a district it looks like we are trending up as a district, but our EL students are still struggling and trending down. We need to continue to work together as a team and find the best way to help our EL students so they don't feel left out. Also parent help is also very important. Are the parents providing support?

Taylor

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In math, the ELD strategies being used in middle school seem to have a positive impact on the IFEP and RFEP students, but not the ELL students. Wonder why???

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In math, the ELD strategies being used in middle school seem to have a positive impact on the IFEP and RFEP students, but not the ELL students. Wonder why???

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It appears the district is improving over all slowly in both ELA and Math with EL students in middle school. Teachers are working hard on implementing several different types of EL strategies in their classroom. 7th grade I-FEP students are showing an increase in ELA and Math testing as well.

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It appears the district is improving over all slowly in both ELA and Math with EL students in middle school. Teachers are working hard on implementing several different types of EL strategies in their classroom. 7th grade I-FEP students are showing an increase in ELA and Math testing as well.

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The ELA scores are at least staying level and not falling as they progress through grades

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There is a big drop between 8th and 11th grade for the R-FEPs.

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There is a big drop between 8th and 11th grade for the R-FEPs.

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We noticed that the math scores are very low.

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We noticed that the math scores are very low.

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It was sad to see the English only lower than iFEP,etc. English only should be higher - what is happening to make this so low!!!

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ELA is declining for most students.  This impacts our work by needing to increase the use of our EL strategies overall with all students.

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ELA is declining for most students.  This impacts our work by needing to increase the use of our EL strategies overall with all students.

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What are we doing right with SBAC Math Gap?

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What are we doing right with SBAC Math Gap?

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Middle School teachers ROCK with I-Fep !!!

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why are the R-Fep kids scores so high?

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I think we need to look at where students are increasing and growing then implement more of these strategies. 

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I think we need to look at where students are increasing and growing then implement more of these strategies. 

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Many of the ELD students have DNQed for SPEd and we are not doing what we need to be doing to meet the needs of these students. 

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Many of the ELD students have DNQed for SPEd and we are not doing what we need to be doing to meet the needs of these students. 

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There is a lot of work to be done across the board!

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How significant our role at the middle school level is? In staring at the graphs, it appears to me that how students perform at the 6th grade level heavily indicates how they will perform for the rest of their academic career.

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3rd grade is our hope.  These students started in 1st grade with CC so we hope that they will be able to show stronger growth since they have a strong foundation in the thinking that is expected from the beginning of their educational experience. 

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3rd grade is our hope.  These students started in 1st grade with CC so we hope that they will be able to show stronger growth since they have a strong foundation in the thinking that is expected from the beginning of their educational experience. 

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I am not seeing anything to be jazzed about in language arts

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I am not seeing anything to be jazzed about in language arts

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I wonder why students are not improving, just in general. It doesn't seem to matter too much whether you are EP or not.

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Doing Right: Teachers are incorporating more collaborative discussions into the lessons and activities.

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Doing Right: Teachers are incorporating more collaborative discussions into the lessons and activities.

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All students are having difficulty in math and according to the data, not showing great progress, with the exception of our IFEPS.

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All students are having difficulty in math and according to the data, not showing great progress, with the exception of our IFEPS.

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We are NOT giving the ELD kids what they need- conversation English to feel more comfortable to be able to keep up with the others in class.

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We are NOT giving the ELD kids what they need- conversation English to feel more comfortable to be able to keep up with the others in class.

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There is definitely a drop between 5th and 6th grade.  I wonder what factors contribute to this?  Attendance might be a factor as well as the material becoming tougher and tougher...

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There is definitely a drop between 5th and 6th grade.  I wonder what factors contribute to this?  Attendance might be a factor as well as the material becoming tougher and tougher...

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We are not meeting the needs of the English Lamguage Learners.  What difference does it matter what language you learn something in?  As long as you are also learning English at the same time. 

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We are not meeting the needs of the English Lamguage Learners.  What difference does it matter what language you learn something in?  As long as you are also learning English at the same time. 

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I noticed a fascinating insight, that students really regress from 5th to 6th grade.

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I noticed a fascinating insight, that students really regress from 5th to 6th grade.

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Collaborative discussions are important. Those students that find a way to pass the test do well.

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Collaborative discussions are important. Those students that find a way to pass the test do well.

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Math results drop in all categories from 5th to 6th grade. It this because students failed to learn the necessary skills, or transition issues from elementary to middle school?

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Better transitioning from elementary to Jr. High is needed, this could improve the drop off in 6th grade. 

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Better transitioning from elementary to Jr. High is needed, this could improve the drop off in 6th grade. 

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I wonder if the English learner scores are going down as they get older is because these while the higher achieving students are reclassified, those that are left might be students with undiagnosed learning disabilities. 

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I wonder if the English learner scores are going down as they get older is because these while the higher achieving students are reclassified, those that are left might be students with undiagnosed learning disabilities. 

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The minimal change in EL results during the middle school years effects the degree to which I am able to modify my instruction to support EL's.

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The minimal change in EL results during the middle school years effects the degree to which I am able to modify my instruction to support EL's.

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What are we doing right for ELA- Have Teacher like Overbo and Cuevas who are checking in and giving these students the extra help they need .

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What are we doing right for ELA- Have Teacher like Overbo and Cuevas who are checking in and giving these students the extra help they need .

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I noticed he ELs proficient are not improving over the years.  In fact, they seem to flat line from 6th grade on to high school.

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I noticed he ELs proficient are not improving over the years.  In fact, they seem to flat line from 6th grade on to high school.

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Why are students who are considered R-FEP performing at a higher percentage than PSUSD overall or even the English only students? Is there more of a motivati

on for those classified students, or is there another factor involved?

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The I-FEP's and R-FEP's score higher than the English only students.

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The I-FEP and R-FEP seem to be more proficient than the English only speakers .

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Why the drastic drop in middle  Grades? related to schedule shift? larger classes? more independence in the middle grades?

or is it just that education doesn't seem to be a priority until they are closer to the job market & graduation?

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I noticed that the reclassified students and the bilingual students were more proficient for ELA standards then the english only students. I also noticed that the english learners go down in proficiency and somewhat bottom out by 11th grade.

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I noticed that the reclassified students and the bilingual students were more proficient for ELA standards then the english only students. I also noticed that the english learners go down in proficiency and somewhat bottom out by 11th grade.

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I noticed there is a drop in ELA and Math with our English learners between elementary and middle school.  That drop never recovers either.

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I noticed there is a drop in ELA and Math with our English learners between elementary and middle school.  That drop never recovers either.

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Why does the I-FEP and R-FEP separate during 8th grade? They seem to shadow each other in the other grades but then are significantly different in 8th.

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It seems that they are all going down and by 6th grade they bottom out and very few go up

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It seems that they are all going down and by 6th grade they bottom out and very few go up

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I'm wondering why all categories go down after 3rd grade and then by 6th grade it the students just bottom that is how they will be until 11th grade.

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I'm wondering why all categories go down after 3rd grade and then by 6th grade it the students just bottom that is how they will be until 11th grade.

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I wonder if it would be more effective to have special bridge classes for the ELs/ LTELs who do not qualify for EL classes, but are not ready for mainstream classes. It is much easier for teachers to meet the needs of all students in a class when they are at a similar learning level. When you have high performing students and low performing students in the same class, where do you teach? If you teach in the middle, your high kids are bored and you are still, potentially, losing your low kids. This would not be in place of an elective, this would be their English class, just leveled to meet their needs.

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Our I-FEP and R-FEP students are outperforming the average for the district, indicating success in our support for these levels of English Language Learners. Students who have not been reclassified are underperforming, highlighting the need for both integrated and designated ELD support to this particular group to close the gap.

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This impacts teachers work load immensely. 

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This impacts teachers work load immensely. 

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In order to have the biggest impact for our students, students should be pulled out for targeted instruction based upon their needs. There is a big drop from 5th to 6th grade because pull out intervention is not occuring.  There should also be a designated time or class for ELs who are needing that extra support.

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R-FEP students are out performing I-FEP students.

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We are wondering why there is such a drop off from elementary to middle school, some ideas we had are change in curriculum increase in rigor and the change in environment
having multiple teachers et. may make it moee difficult for an EL.