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*If you are answering questions please label them as "Q1, Q2, Q3, etc."

What did you learn through chapters 11-22?

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Teach for America is more about corporate society then actually teaching and benefiting the students.
Corporations are the real murderers of good education!

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I was not aware that districts were actually implementing different strategies and programs to actually identify and "get rid of ineffective" teachers.

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well....when you reward the teachers and create a competitive system, you see scandal...cheating...and then you see flight of great teachers to "easier" schools

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I don't feel like firing all the "bad" teachers is a good idea because of the way in which we are evaluating teachers in order to categorize them as bad. How can student test scores really reflect a teacher's effectiveness? Students have some many variables that effect them and their scores and a teacher is just one of those variables. If we were going to evaluate teachers on their own performance and not by their students test scores, I think that would be something to consider.

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Q2: I think that there are very few truly "bad" teachers. The art of teaching well can be taught and learned. 

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Q2: I think that there are very few truly "bad" teachers. The art of teaching well can be taught and learned. 

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I do not feel a teacher should be labeled "bad" based off of test scores, just like we do not label kids not smart based off of a score.

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In a sense one would think that firing a bad teacher is th solution. Yes in thought if they are doing harm to a child they need to leave. However if they seem like they lack the knowledge or confidence to become a decent teacher, then we must not give up on those who want to teach. We are a rear breed these days so we must take care of our own.

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Personally I like having admin come in and do walkthroughs, I think peer reviews can be really one sided at times.

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Personally I like having admin come in and do walkthroughs, I think peer reviews can be really one sided at times.

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-Natalie

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The way good and bad is defined is based solely on test scores rather than on the teaching styles. As mentioned in the book, test scores are not valid enough to base such a decision off of. The teacher could have a particularly tough class or a particularly high group of students.

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i love the idea of teacher leaders and peer review...master teachers...learning from the best at your school...learning from eachother...you see this occurring in successful schools...

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In my opinion, we actually gain the most by watching skilled teachers teach. It would benefit teachers to sign up to go see each other in action. I'm not sure that it would be as meaningful if an evaluation was attached to it...

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Peer reviews are a great way for teachers to learn from one another and gain new insights and teaching styles. Im all for it!

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I do believe that a person should meet certification standards (as public school teachers do). Allowing people who are untrained into our profession is insulting, and it obviously isn't working well.

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Sometimes having several people give feedback and input is a good thing, however, I agree with the book that there could be power struggles.  Ain't nobody got time for that.
-Sarah Czar

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Teachers being peer  reveiwed is agreat  thing when it is done right. I have seen policies where a teacher on a conference period once a week sits in a level peer and sees a different approach in the lesson. Or they share ideas on their own lessons. When done wrong I can see it being an

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Peer reviewing is a great tool for feedback. It might be a little less scary than Admin reviewing.

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The standards should be proper training in the appropriate field and plenty of resources and assistance in the classroom with curriculum and teaching strategies.

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Teachers should certainly be highly qualified and have field experience. I think that school districts should allow alt. certified teachers to shadow other veteran teachers.

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Closing down a school and renaming it/cleaning up the staff is not going to help make a dramatic difference. Instead of doing that they should focus on improving the staff they currently have and reevaluate their teaching methods.

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"the law assumes that parents know best what is needed to reform their children's schools and should be empowered to turn them over to a private corporation to manage"...privilege

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that's like putting lipstick on a pig...you still have the same community, the same problems....deep systemic change and leadership are needed

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Q4 - Standards for entry to teaching... min of 30 hours of observation hours , student teach for a semester, attend a min of 18 hours of professional development, 

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Q4 - Standards for entry to teaching... min of 30 hours of observation hours , student teach for a semester, attend a min of 18 hours of professional development, 

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Q5: I do not think that schools "belong" to the parent's whose children are enrolled in them. The school belongs to the community and the future students/parents and they are the ones who should have a voice in the leadership, resources and personnel that it needs to provide a successful educational experience. 

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Q5: I do not think that schools "belong" to the parent's whose children are enrolled in them. The school belongs to the community and the future students/parents and they are the ones who should have a voice in the leadership, resources and personnel that it needs to provide a successful educational experience. 

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-Natalie

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Is it really school choice?

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Parent triggers are a little exaggerated

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I think that some teachers really should go but firing teachers who have low test scores is ridiculous. We know there are many variables!
-Sarah C

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Directer Jake Kasdan's "Bad Teacher" Starring Cameron Diaz Now In Theaters

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BAD TEACHER now in theaters, starring Cameron Diaz and Jason Segal. Photographed by Alar Kivilo, CSC, ASC. | BAD TEACHER now in theaters, starring Cameron Diaz and Jason Segal. Photographed by Alar Kivilo, CSC, ASC. Cinematographer of films like "The Blind Side", "Year One" and HBO's "Taking Chance" for which Alar won an ASC award in 2010 for Outstanding Achievement in Cinematography.

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Do you think firing all of the "bad" teachers and rewarding the "good" teachers is a good idea? Why or why not?

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How do you feel about teachers being peer reviewed?

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Do you think closing down schools and "Revamping" them with a new name and staff is the best way to reform a school?

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Do you think students who choose their schools will out perform students who do not?

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Parent trigger thoughts?
Chapter 18

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What should the standards be for entry into teaching?

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Q7 revamping a school with a new name is not the answer.... you need to hire an experience principal and provide support to the teachers. Districts need to stop trying to make cookie cutter schools .

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Q7 revamping a school with a new name is not the answer.... you need to hire an experience principal and provide support to the teachers. Districts need to stop trying to make cookie cutter schools .