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I think that Simon is starting to see the pig head as worse is coming. I think that it could also symbolize all the negativity and violence that has gotten into the boys since being on the island. I see Jack being the beast the most as of now because he always wants to hunt, kill, and gets angered very easily. Piggy has a little bit of violence by never helping and just letting everyone else do everything when he is needed. The evil in ralph is he always needs to be in control and everything going his way or nothing will be good ever.

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I think that Simon sees his conversation with the pig head as either foreshadowing or a warning of whats to come. I believe that you can see the beast showing the most in jack so far, his savage impulses are coming out. He kills his first pig then seems to be obsessed with hunting after that. Ralph s anger could be his form of the beast, he could learn how to control the beat but while being on the island hes becoming more and more angry without ways to control it.

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I feel like the conversation Simon had with the Lord of the Flies is his conscience telling him to be scared. He knows that the boys have now past the point of no return. He is telling himself to get away from them. If he doesn't leave now then he may end up like them or worse.

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when the story says "fancy thinking the beast was something you could hunt and kill," this symbolizes savagery. as seen, jacck was the first to embrace this, as he even stuck the head of his pig on a spearas an offer to the beast. -Areana F

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I believe that Simon sees the pig head as a warning that things are going to get much worse before their time is over. The evil in Jack is his inability to defer to recognizable authority and the thought that he can have whatever he wants. The evil in Ralph is the fact that he can't defer to people that have more knowledge about certain things when he should. The evil in Piggy is his unwillingness to truly apply himself when he is needed.

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I think that Simon sees the pig head as the violence and negativity that has grown in the boys since being on the island. The evil that is part of Jack is the need to be liked or the leader. He goes to crazy lengths to earn the respect of the others. The evil in Ralph is also the need to be respected but also the feeling that he needs to be the one in control. As hes lost some of his authority things have begun to fall apart and he is starting to worry that they may not get rescued. The evil in Piggy is probably his unwillingness to say what he needs to. When he is confident and says what he needs to he helps everyone out but when he lets himself get silenced it hurts everyone.

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Every boy on the island has a dark side. Especially Jack when jack suggested killing a littlun in chapter 7 comes to a grotesque fruition in chapter 8 during the vicious and bloody hunt following Jack's rise to power and formation of his new tribe. Jack's accent arises directly from the supposed confirmation of the beast's existence. Ralph is trying to just keep everybody safe, and piggy is the smart one.
Deven J.

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I think every boy on this island has some evil in them especially jack because he is mean and thinks he knows it all and has a bad attitude, Ralph is on both sides of evil and not evil because he has his times where he is just so mean and kinda takes advantage of being the leader but he also is just trying to make sure everyone stays in there own lane, piggy on the other had is sweet and just wants to help Ralph keep the island up and running and he just wants all the boys to be nice to each other. - Kayla.k

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I think evil is an unescapable even in piggy who is a sweet boy has his evil moments. You can look at anyone and find a piece of evil in them. No one's perfect and people make mistakes. In others it's more it less obvious. For example, jack's evil is more obvious than Ralphs. Jack has always bullied piggy and the other boys. He's more violent and thinks he's the top dog. Ralph however hides the evil. He's had his moments of questionable behavior. I have a feeling as we read on we'll see more evil in the boys come out. - Kary T

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Evil is everywhere if you like it or not. Jack has always been a violent character and shows the bad side of him like stealing Piggies glasses and just being a jerk/bully to his peers. Piggy and Ralph are not necessary evil but have there moments of being rude and sarcastic. But everyone has there "evil" moments some worse then others.

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Everyone has evil. Its just a matter of time until it shows. Jack always had the evil with him from the beginning. He was always like the bully in the story so going to the island it kind of isolated in on that I feel like. For Ralph and piggy i think its more of a different evil. From them its more that they just want things done they don't want to be messing around. christian Trevino

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It is about the dark heart of humans, and humanities inability to fully control dark emotions. The Lord of the Flies is the darker side of people, whether it is from a lack of logic, or anger, or even a lack of sympathy for the other kids, it often causes pain for people, and leads to conflict. Each of their follies are different, and the Lord of the Flies is simply a representation of those flaws, created by the kids trapped on the island, because of fear, and faith. Both of which themselves are often folly. This is what causes conflict, and divides the characters in the story of the Lord of the Flies. -Isaac P

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In chapter 8, the conversation between Simon and the Lord of the Flies reveals the true nature of the beast that has been haunting the boys. Contrary to their belief that the beast is an external creature they can hunt and kill, the Lord of the Flies tells Simon that the evil exists within each of them. This evil manifests differently in Jack, Piggy, and Ralph, reflecting the darker aspects of human nature.

The evil within Jack is manifested through his growing savagery, obsession with hunting, and his desire for power and control. As the story progresses, he becomes more brutal and ruthless, eventually leading a group of boys into violence and chaos. Piggy, on the other hand, represents a different kind of evil, one rooted in the limitations of rational thinking and a certain degree of emotional detachment. While he often provides valuable insights and serves as a voice of reason, his inability to fully connect with others on an emotional level can be seen as a flaw. Ralph's evil is subtler, as he represents a more balanced and well-intentioned character. However, his struggle to maintain order and his occasional moments of doubt and frustration reveal that even the most seemingly virtuous characters have their inner demons.

In conclusion, the evil that the Lord of the Flies speaks of is not an external monster that the boys can hunt and kill, but rather the inherent darkness that exists within each of them. This darkness, manifesting in different ways through Jack, Piggy, and Ralph, serves as a reminder of the potential for evil that resides within all people, and the importance of recognizing and combating these darker aspects of our nature.

Megan B.

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When the Lord of the Flies says "Fancy thinking the Beast was something you could hunt and kill," this symbolizes the savagery and killer instinct hidden within all of the boys on the island. As we have seen, Jack was definitely the first to embrace this savagery, as he even stuck the head of this pig on a spear as an offering towards the beast, almost like he is trying to ally with it. The beast in Piggy really hasn't come out yet, as he is very rational and intelligent, but his intelligence could symbolize his savagery. Ralph's inner beast is probably his confidence, as he doesn't back down to anybody, and remains a leader. The book is starting to get a very hostile feeling, and you can tell that conflict is looming. -Dylan D.

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The beast is the darkness and savagery everyone has inside of them. In Lord of the Flies, the Beast inside the boys gets stronger as the story goes along, and they get more savage and start embracing their darker qualities. Jack, for example, is a bully by the start of the book, but he becomes worse and starts getting more violent and arrogant. He embraces the savagery. Piggy's beast is his greed, he wants to get off the island, and have food and shelter, but he doesn't want to help. Ralphs beast is his pride. He wants the other boys to like him and obey him as Chief, and he will do dangerous things to prove that he deserves to be chief. He also snaps at Jack anytime his leadership is questioned. - Madison B.

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It says that everyone in one way or another has evil in them, and that it can be really bad sometimes and others it an be not super bad but just a little. It says that this person is controlling them and making them evil and making the beasts.

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Everyone has some form of evil inside of them. Whether it's greed, envy, or maybe someone acting on hate. Sometimes a situation we are in can bring out that "beast". For Jack it was easiest to bring out that evil because he was already somewhat of a bully before they can to the island. The island only enhanced those qualities making him wild and violent. The evil hasn't captured Ralph and Piggy as greatly as Jack but it is still there. For Piggy its he wants things to get done, as per Ralph's instructions, but isn't fully willing to help with those things. For Ralph its that he wants the others to know he is chief. He has the good of the group at heart but when ever Jack questions him he snaps back at him.

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