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I agree with Wilson, I think his points about the creature are very true and his perspective shapes its truth.

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I believe that truth is a matter of perspective.  In Fences Troys past perspective of racial discrimination in baseball shapes his truth that the times have not changed at that sports are still discriminatory towards colored athletes.

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I believe that truth is based on facts; however, perception is based on our experience. Troy believes that he did not get into the MLB because of his race, which is his perceptions. But in reality, it was his age that prohibited him from playing in the league.

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I believe that truth is a matter of perspective. I think that our life experiences define what our truth is. In The Things They Carried there was many examples of stories that were true but because of stories and things that he felt in battle the truth was distorted in order to give a better understanding to what the truth was to him.

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I believe that there is a difference between truth and perspective and it's that truth is typically founded with factual information and statistics, while perspective is based on development of experience and instigation.

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I think that truth is a matter of perspective, from different viewpoints, there are different "truth" for everyone.  I agree with Ethan's point that truth can be personal truth and happening truth, and it affect how people perceive things that is true.

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I think that truth is a matter of perspective. I agree that truth can be based of our beliefs, for example when it comes to the creature and how he feels about himself.

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i think that truth is a matter of perspective because ex

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I think truth is defined by perspective because everything you believe becomes your truth. In fences when the son wanted to try out for the baseball team, if he got in or not it would have changed his perspective which changes his truth.
I also agree with Ethan's point on how everyone has different truths depending on how they perceive thing, but there is only one actual truth which is fats. But facts is not the truth, facts are facts. Therefore Truth is shaped by our own Perspectives.

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I believe that from the monster perspective he isn't a monster or a creature that is scary and I believe with Wilson that the truth comes from the  matter of perspective

I also agree with Kate that truth can be whatever you believe in

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I agree with Wilson that the truth is  a matter of perspective and opinions. The monster does not think he is a monster.

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I agree with Wilson in his saying that what you believe of yourself comes to be, just as in Frankenstein with the creature when he abandoned his kind ways after having been rejected so many times. Being a monster became his truth as soon as he believed he innately was due to the surface perception of others.

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I agree with Zoe, truth is a matter perspective people can have a different viewpoint on what is true because they can interpret things differently, even if they are given the same information. In The Things They Carried, O'Brien tells the audience that even if they witness something with their own eyes, they can never get the full truth to what happened, "It's difficult to separate what happened from what seems to happen", you can blink and miss something important but you wouldn't know that you missed it so your truth can be different from someone who witnessed the same thing.

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I think this can also connect with Macbeth and his beliefs as his perspective on the witches shaped his truth. He believed the prophecies were the truth so he made sure to fulfill them.

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Our experiences influence and define the way we see things, and thus our truth. This is why no two people have the exact same opinion on any given matter, humans are infinitely complex and have infinitely different truths.

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I agree with Kate because throughout "The Things They Carried" the author talks a lot about truth. He says that "the thing about a story is that you dream it as you tell it, hoping that others might dream along with you". This shows that one person might believe something to be true, but others will not because of their own beliefs, experiences, and perspectives.

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I agree with Wilson and Nonso. The creature's perspective of the people in the village leads him to believe that he is a cruel monster.

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I agree with Kate when she suggested the author of the things they carried because everyone in that war had different experiences that made their truths different than others

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Ethan has a good overall positioning on the idealism within the topic, as he proves he understands what is integrated and invested when truth is based of an individuals perspective.

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I feel like there is a difference between truth and personal truth. I feel like out perception of truth is skewed by our experience or beliefs. Factual truth is based solely on facts.

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I think The Things They Carried was that the truth was all of the story but somethings were fake but we don't know because its his way of telling the story in his own perspective

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I like what Ethan added to the conversation because it is important to consider that there is a personal truth and factual truth and how this affects a persons beliefs and opinions.

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I also think that perception can allow one to change their reality. The way that they see things is their own truth and others may see things differently.

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Ethan looks at truth as something based off facts while the rest of the group believes truth is based off perceptions. I think this is solely two different opinions on what truth is.

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Ethan's question is good because it asks about whether things are only true to an individual or true to a group of people.

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In The Things They Carried they soldiers have many different perspectives. This leads to soldiers making decisions that others may not believe in. "A thing may happen and be a total lie; another thing may not happen and be truer than the truth." (O'Brien 77).

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I agree with wilson when he said that facts are what actually happened but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's the truth because the truth can mean different things to people

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I agree with Wilson, "That's what fiction is for. It's for getting at the truth when the truth isn't sufficient for the truth" (O'Brian)

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Courtney's point about TTTC being O'Brien's truth and not others truths is good. She explains how it is only his truth because of his perspective and he thinks what he saw was true

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Wilson developed a good set of follow up questions that interlocked perspective with the Frankenstein novel.

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I don't think authenticity make the story valuable. I believe that the emotions that the readers feel when they read the story makes it valuable. TTTC talks about how a true war story is never real, but it still has an impact on the reader. That makes it a valuable story.

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Ethan talking about the authenticity of a story helps the group understand if a story is truthful. He claims that the story has to have emotion.

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I don't think that authenticity/originality completely define the value of a story.

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Courtney brought up a good point. Truth as a perspective seems to be brought up a lot in "How To Tell A True War Story," yet, how is it shown as a perspective during other parts of the book?

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I agree with Wilson because Troy was blinded by his personal truth of his ability to play and then not make it into the major leagues. Even though the situation to others might have been different

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I believe that authenticity is the originality in a story, something that comes strait from the author and as long as emotions are conveyed then that is the value of the story.

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The group applied a lump-some of varied points to interpret their point, which is that truth is in fact a matter of perspective.

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I feel that the group is missing a large emotional aspect of this discussion so far. Human behavior is not driven by past experiences alone, it is driven by the emotional growth ocurring from these events. And at the core of every struggle in the books we have read is the innate desire to be loved. The need for love of any kind from another is what has driven each character to act in morally questionable ways every time. The creature from Frankenstein is the most glaring example of this in its desperate vying for Victor's slightest affection that eventually pushes him off the brink. Fences has a similar struggling paternal bond between Corey and Troy in which Troy acts as a sort of father figure with questionable methods. The Things They Carried exhibited that need to be loved as the soldiers went off to battle instead of draft dodging, which they felt was right, in order to avoid losing the love of their families. Macbeth does everything he does to please Lady Macbeth at first, and only after does he consider his own wants. Every story is just the same.

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I think that human behavior is defined by each individuals life experiences. Our perception on certain experiences can influences how someone sees the world. I also like the point brought up that who you surround yourself with a can also have a huge impact on your behavior.

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I agree that different experiences will impact people differently. Two completely different people could experience the same thing but react in two different ways.

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I agree with Jason, I believe our perception is based on our experiences and upbringing that Influence our decisions and our behaviors toward each other.

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Going along with Matt, I think that their past or their harsh experience may shape a different outcome on their future. I would answer his question with the thinking that a persons experience will shape the way they act or change their desires.

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I agree with Matt, I think way you perceive things has more value in a Individual's behavior than one's experience. there's no meaning behind an experience if one doesn't perceive it and make something out of it.

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I agree with Liam and Josie: The people that you surround yourself with effect how you act.

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I think that perception is based on experience, and the people you surround yourself with
I like Kevin's comment about in the things they carry about how they talk about lavender as if he was really alive, but when in reality he is truly dead.
Although I like her comment on how consequences mostly drive human behavior more than faith, I disagree, consequences may be a small part of why humans make the choices they do, but faith is the main thing that drives human nature.

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I like Josie's way of thinking. I never thought about it like this. I like how she brought up the environment one lives in and the people they surround themselves with. This is seen in Macbeth as Macbeths environment with Lady Macbeth is very devious.

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I agree with Josie and Liams perspective on this topic because those you surround yourself with heavily impact your decisions and beliefs, this is seen in Macbeth.

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I believe that human behavior is driven by the desire to satisfy the people around us. Macbeth ended up killing the king not for himself, but rather for Lady Macbeth because he did not want to disappoint His wife and seem weak to her.

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I agree that our environments can influence our behavior. When put into different situations people will act differently. The creature was treated awfully and so he reacted that way, and killed many people. His environment drove him to react in a specific way.

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Macbeth is a key example of how his obsession with being king drove him to act irrationally and he ended up killing people.

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I also believe that fear can also be a motivator of human behavior. For example, in "The Things They Carried" the main character said that he "would go to the war... kill and maybe die - because [he] was embarrassed not to" (O'Brien 57). His decision to go to war was because he was scared that people would look down on him.

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I agree that Lindsey that consequences do drive people to do certain things. There are consequences with everything we do. In Frankenstein, Victor created the monster not thinking that much about the consequences, which are the monster killing a few people and having other people blamed for the murders.

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I believe that fate does not drive human behavior, but rather hope does. I feel that the desire to become king is what drive him to do the things that he did.

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What Josie said about the choices that Macbeth made, is a good response to the question. Most consequences that Macbeth faced were due to his own actions. It is his own fault that he was killed.

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Chuying and Matt have a good point. Both the Monster from Frankenstein and Macbeth are driven to act out things that they normally would've done, in enter to fulfill his their obsessions.

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I think that consequences are more of a result of human behavior rather than a drive towards it.

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I agree with Matt. Greed/obsession drives human behavior as we can see in Frankenstein and Macbeth

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Matt's point about Macbeth's killings was an obsession story was a good point because Macbeth did everything he could to become King of Scotland.

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I believe that obsessions also drove Troy's behavior. He was obsessed with baseball, which he used to justify his affair with Alberta.

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Do you guys think that Macbeths ambition to be in authority was driven more by his environment or beliefs in the witches prophecies.

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To answer Kara's question, I believe that Macbeth's ambition was driven by his environment. Initially he had no intention of betraying the king but pressure from his wife was ultimately the cause of his desire to be king

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Answering Kara's question: I think that both were definitely a part of problem. Lady Macbeth is pressuring him into murder and to stay on tract with the prophecies. But on the other hand, the witches gave him the idea to kill and to become king.

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I agree that other people  does affect the way people act. In Macbeth, Lady Macbeth is pressuring Macbeth into killing the king even though he was thinking that he didn't want to in the beginning.

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I agree that experience shape an individual, that the monster start as a newborn, act innocently, but later his experience in the village and the way that Victor treat him shape his personalities and that shows how the surrounding people shape an individual

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I agree with Kara's point of experience shaping the individual. I think that experiences allow for the individual to learn and reflect on themselves.

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I agree with Jessica because the people you surround yourself with creates the individual

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I agree that truths can mean different things to different people because they have different experiences

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I agree with Andrew, the monster's isolation is created as a result of comparing himself to the villagers.
"I cannot describe to you the agony that these reflections inflicted on me; I tried to dispel them, but sorrow only increased with knowledge." (Frankenstein 123).

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I agree with Lauren because the past experiences really makes the individual. In Fences, they lived in a small area in the town and they have to make a living for themselves

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I agree with andrew: Victor abused his power with the monster, which led to the monster running away.

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I think that Troy character  is created by comparing his son actions to his past. This comparison leads him to not let Cory play college football.
"I told that boy about that football stuff. The white man ain't gonna let him get nowhere with that football," (Wilson 1.1)

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I agree with Annie that world views shape the actions of the individual because of stigmas and expectations. In Frankenstein, the creature acted the way that he did so that he could have the potential to fit in with society.

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I think the group has done a good job working with the boundaries of the topic, and because the individual is so complicating and unique per case, their descriptions of general application to the human and what makes them individualistic are valid and instigated through the novel's and literary examples.

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I think a person's world view is based on that person's past experience. With Troy he believed that his son couldn't make it in football due to his experience with racism in the negro leagues

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I agree with Grace that experiences and actions shape and defined who they are

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In The Things They Carried, what the soldiers carry and what the personal belongings are really creates the individuals and it seeks into their personal life

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I agree that past experiences and how you grow up will affect you. If you grow up in a hard household then your views on life is going to be different from someone who gets objects easier. In fences, Troy made it seem like all you have to do is to provide for the family and not actually love your family.

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I agree I think that if the monster didnt look like such a monster then his entire life would have been different. Many of the bad experiences were based on the fact that people treated him poorly bc he looked weird

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I agree that comparing your values to others can impact a persons character.