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Name: Matt Klimek
Email: 24225mk@chaminade-hs.org

Name: Sebastian Olivares
Email: 24311SO@chaminade-hs.org

Name: Patrick Tuohy
Email: 24419PT@chaminade-hs.org

Name: Theodore Russo
Email: 24359tr@chaminade-hs.org

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Section/Pages: The Things They Carried to Friends
Members Present: All

Discussion Highlights:
-The uncertainty of the war, contrasted by a simple game of checkers
-War causes pressure, that OBrien feels before and during the war
-OBrien sees that most people fighting in the war are under this pressure, not to cry, to kill, go in the cave
-Theme of Pressure
- Many were drafted, but didn’t want to go

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Section/Pages: The Man I Killed to In the Field
Members Present: Everyone Except Matt Klimek

Discussion Highlights:
-Two of our quotes came from the short story The Man I Killed
-The imagery found in this short story connects a theme of guilt and shame
-O’Brien stares at the man while feels of guilt are felt within him
-Another quote is a quote about the high expectations that O’Brien set for himself
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Section/Pages: How to Tell a True War Story to Church
Members Present: All

Discussion Highlights:
- TWO PEOPLE choose the same quote!
-Shows how the quote about war was really impactful, but also summarized some of the major themes
-Quote ironic, says war is good but also bad
-reminds us of the Military recruiting commercials, paint a half picture of the reality
- Media also paints a half picture
- Sensationalism is a net bad

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Meeting 1 Date: Friday, February 3
Pages / Section: The Things They Carried to Friends

Meeting 2 Date: Monday, February 13
Pages / Section: How to Tell a True War Story to Church

Meeting 3 Date: Tuesday, February 28
Pages / Section: The Man I Killed to In the Field

Meeting 4 Date:
Pages / Section: Good Form to The Loves of the Dead

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If you are absent, still fill out your part of the padlet

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“I remember Norman Bowler and Henry Dibbins playing checkers…there was something restful about it… you knew where you stood. You knew the score…There were rules.”
P32

How does this scene show the uneasiness every felt about the war?

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“For Rat Kiley, I think, facts were formed by sensation, not the other way around” pg 89

Rat’s type of story telling reminded me of yellow journalism we discussed in history class, a type of reporting that is still happening.

How is sensationalism used throughout our daily life, in places such as media and politics, and is it more of a positive or a negative?

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Agenda topic 4(Sebastian): What is the real reason some soldiers fought in the war?

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Agenda topic 4(Sebastian): What is the real reason some soldiers fought in the war?

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-“They carried the soldier’s greatest fear, which was the fear of blushing. Men killed, and died, because they were embarrassed not to. It was what had brought them to the war in the first place, nothing positive, no dreams of glory or honor, just to avoid the blush of dishonor. They died so as not to die of embarrassment.” What does this quote tell you about the real reason soldiers fought in the war?
-how would you determine the morality of O’Brien’s actions in the war?
-would you have gone into battle

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Don’t break these rules

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Sebastian

"A while later, when we moved out of the hamlet, she was still dancing. 'Probably some weird ritual,' Azar said, but Henry Dobbins looked back and said no, the girl just liked to dance." (130).

In this quote, a lot of the differences between the subjects of the story and the “enemy”. At this point in the story, her family had been killed, and her village was burned, but she was still dancing. The soldiers questioning this shows how little they know about their enemy, and may even make the reader question who is really in the right. Dobbins also shows that he is one of the few soldiers who sees the humanity in the opposing side of the war

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“War is hell, but that’s not the half of it, because war is also mystery and terror and adventure and courage and discovery and holiness and pity and despair and longing and love. War is nasty; war is fun. War is thrilling; war is drudgery. War makes you a man; war makes you dead.” (76)

This quote is meant to show the contradiction in war. The questions of morality and the situations and choices soldiers have to face.

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1 Brainstorm a LIST OF THEMES for the book thus far. Then, select one theme from the list and find at least three pieces of textual evidence to support it. 1

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1. We did good on having things to discuss
2. Most people read everything
3. People understood what were discussing

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1.One thing that went well again was that the discussion flowed and we were constantly talking about the book
2. We spoke a lot about the relationship between the soldiers and the enemy in all quotes
3. Everyone came to class prepared which was great and help us discuss well.

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1. All quotes and analyses were done well
2. Conversations flowed very well, thoughtful discussions
3. Read well

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What is war really compared to what media portrays 

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What is war really compared to what media portrays 