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Is it worth keeping our military in Turkey? Is what we're doing there really excusable?

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I hadnt heard of the genocide before this class either, which is really disturbing

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I hadnt heard of the genocide before this class either, which is really disturbing

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It is learning about events that challenge a president morally 

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It is learning about events that challenge a president morally 

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After seeing a few more perspectives than mine own. I still believe that while the Armenian Genocide needs to be recognized by the U.S. (who have never ever put a demographic of people in camps before, obviously). For the time being, because of the fragile situation in the ME, it is more practical to not create chaos.

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Genocide did happen. And as a world community it should be acknowledged. Famously German reparations jump started the state of isreal. Although late, reparations could jump start armenia

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I feel like it's too late in the game for Turkey to admit to what they did.  It would have been much less difficult if they admitted their wrong doings earlier.

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The reading and discussion have opened up issues regarding ethics that seem particularly relevant to the current political atmosphere. Is it right to put "America first," as our president claims his primary goal is, and thus sacrifice American values? With an even broader focus, is it morally right for the United Nations to avoid using the word genocide when the primary goal of the organization is to be a protector of human rights around the world? Personally, I think political and economic pragmatism can only go so far when the lives of hundreds of thousands of people have just been washed away by global superpowers.

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For me it was interesting to learn about another example in which the US must weigh its morality with its foreign interests. As well, I was interested in the importance placed on the word genocide and how the use of the word could be made illegal. If the US were to use genocide in reference to what occurred to the Armenians, it could potentially cause an international crisis. It reminds me of school children and how personally words can be taken by kids as well as countries.

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I took away the importance of recognition. As someone who isn't Armenian, there isn't a way for me to understand how it feels for the world to not recognize the genocide, particularly for political aim. However, the utilitarian approach totally makes sense: what are the global consequences of recognizing it? Would further conflict break out? War? The world won't know until it is actually recognized- but is that a risk the U.S. can take? As for Turkey, though, it feels like an ego thing and I think they really ought to at least recognize the fact that these people died at the hands of the government.

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not calling it a genocide is disrespectful and dishonorable, even though it is politically pragmatic...   I don't know I have a lot of moral issues with not calling it a genocide but the value of having Turkey as an ally is too important I think.

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After overall reading, Turks are silent about what they did to Kurds. They don't admit torture that they had made to Kurds. Kurds had minority rights in an area where they were majority. They fought for their rights in the way that they would achieve their rights. But Turks opposed to them. In the end of the war, the leader of PKK, Ocalan, was kept and he admitted that Turks and Kurds should collaborate in democratic way. Now  Kurds language is not still taught in schools. But many Kurds realized that Kurdish country would not be able to exist. It would be too weak. But many Kurds belive that Turkey would become evolve in a democratic and multicultural contry. But what is my question is, in what way and how much would Turks politicians allowed to evolve in a democratic country.

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Our discussion has allowed me to reflect on the difficulty of making a moral or pragmatic decision. As someone who thinks very highly of President Obama, I was initially disturbed to read that he went back on his promise to officially recognize the Armenian genocide. Having further examined the issue, I understand why he shied away from doing so- the economic, military, and political consequences of doing so would be disastrous for US foreign policy. However, I find it hard to reconcile the ignorance of a mass loss of life with what's best for US foreign policy. I worry that a lack of recognition for an event as destructive as the Armenian genocide could set a dangerous precedent for years to come- that is, that the United States can ignore despicable actions when we have an economic/military motive for doing so.

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I believe that it was really interesting to learn about. I also find it ironic how Erdogan has spoken about and called Germany and the rest of Europe " nazis and fascists" yet him and his country are in denial about their own atrocities committed.

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What I've taken away is the fact that this Genocide did happen but the fact that for whatever reason or a multitude of reasons the Turkish Government does not want to recognize it makes the conflict so gray that it takes the argument and moves it into a standstill where nothing gets done

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I believe

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Perhaps It is just me but I had never heard of the Armenian genocide before this class. This Is deeply troubling because it seems to me like something that should be taught with the same purpose as the holocaust. Especially because it took place prior to the holocaust and was a foundation for future genocides like the holocaust.

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America values the relationship with turkey more then the issue that happened

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I find it interesting that they won't see what really happened and own up to it.  It would be better for the country if they owned up to it, bringing them closer together. Bringing them closer with other countries.

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The US and the world obviously value grand strategy over morality The feeling of "this is wrong" is over powered by the enemy of my enemy is my friend mentality that birthed brutal dictators all over the world via american foreign policy

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unlike the Holocaust, the Armenian Genocide seems  unaccepted in Turkish society. Personally I've never heard of the Armenian Genocide, adding on to the fact that its more of a secret history. They don't want to own up to it with the fear that they will be shamed for it, even if they already are. The fact that they use the use of a single word to change a whole relationship with another country it quite ridiculous. If they had accepted their mistake and the deaths of the Armenians the relationship would have been closer as the countries would be more trusting of their truths and lies. It any situation the fact that they can't accept that the Armenian Genocide fits perfectly in the specific definition of the word seems completely childish

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Honestly this is why politics and foreign policy is so tedious. Choosing not to say the word "genocide" because we Turkey's support seems troubling. It's saying that the continuous disregard of an entire ethnic group's strife is less important than the United States' military place in the Middle East. I want to support Armenians and have the US call it genocide, but I ultimately understand why we haven't done it yet.

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I think that it is crazy how they have been able to say that this didn't happen. We have all this technology now that people could use to prove that the genocide actually happened. I have one question, what happened to all of the  records of the genocide?

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I think that using the word genocide would do a lot of harm with out having much of a benefit