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"It isn't important, I know, but I hate it when somebody has cheap suitcases. It sounds terrible to say it, but i can even get to hate somebody, justlooking at them."

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"i cant hear you. one minute you scream at me, and the next you-" this shows that holden has mood swings.

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Chapter 15 (119) "I got a cab outside the hotel, but I didn't have the faintest damn idea where i was going. I had no place to go." Holden is saying how he is lost in his mind and in the real world. He is saying how he has no where to go showing he is hopeless and he does not think he deserves to be anywhere, showing his declining mental state.

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Chapter 17 (page 146/147)
"We'll stay in these cabin camps and stiff like that till the dough runs out" this quote shows how off Holden's thoughts truly are. No 16 year old can surely live on their own unless they have a job. Its quite obvious that if Sally had said yes to his idea he would act naive and go off to live in the woods. But she thinks he is crazy

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"Kids always have to meet their friend. That kills me"
This shows that he gets very sad when he does not have someone to talk to that he relates to.

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THOMAS ALVES                                              when he talks to little girls in the park trying to hunt down another little girl. Then he goes into a museum by himself... What a wierdo. he should be put in a foam room. He should be on anti depressants. this is not normal. Why cant he hang out with kids his age.

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THOMAS ALVES                                              when he talks to little girls in the park trying to hunt down another little girl. Then he goes into a museum by himself... What a wierdo. he should be put in a foam room. He should be on anti depressants. this is not normal. Why cant he hang out with kids his age.

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"Even though it was Sunday and Phoebe wouldn't be there with her class or anything, and even though it was so damp and lousy out, i walked all the way through the park to the Museum of Natural History." (Salinger 133)

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"I told her I loved her and all. It was a lie, of course, but the thing is, I meant it when I said it." (Salinger 139)
Holden seems to be having mood swings where he feels something one moment and it completely goes away the next. Holden said he loved a girl that he didn't know that well and actually meant to say it in that moment. Which he himself finds crazy so Holden is slowly realizing that he is going somewhat crazy and I believe he realizes the fact that he is slowly becoming the type of person that he hates, a phony

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Chapter 17 (137)
He'd be making his bed, or hanging up stuff in his closet- he was always hanging things up in the closet- it drove me crazy-and he'd whistling while he did it, if he wasn't talking in this raspy voice.

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"The whole thing was sort of funny, in a way, if you thought about it, and all of a sudden I did something I shouldn't have. I laughed,"(Salinger 149). Holden has just asked a women to marry her on the spot. He just asked a question that will change his life forever. When he got denied, he laughed about it. He was not hurt, sad, nor depressed about not marrying Sally. His lack of emotion conveys a decline in his mental health

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Chapter 17 (137) "Guys that never read books. Guys that are very mean. Guys that are boring..." Holden is describing how boys his age act. This shows how it is hard for Holden to have friends with other males because they are all "phonies" in his opinion.

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Chapter 16 (page 129) "When someone really wants to go, and even walks faster to get there quicker,then it depresses the hell out of me."
This is a decline in his mental health because he is getting depressed over little stupid stuff that shouldnt even bother him. In the begining of the book Holden goes to the movies so he is being hipocritical when he says "I cant understand somebody going to the movies because theres nothing else to do"

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"Anyway, I'm sort of glad they've got the atomic bomb invented. If there's ever another war, I'm going to sit right the hell on top of it. I'll volunteer for it, I swear to God I will" (156). This shows that Holden has suicidal thoughts which indicates a decline in his mental health.

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Chapter 15 (page 119)
"What I don't spend I lose. Half of the time I sort of even forget to pick up my change." This quote shows that Holn is acting more forgetful and cannot keep track of the money he has.

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Find evidence in chapters 15-18 that show Holden's declining mental health.  Look at his actions, how he talks, what he says, and don't forget to consider physical ailments.

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Find evidence in chapters 15-18 that show Holden's declining mental health.  Look at his actions, how he talks, what he says, and don't forget to consider physical ailments.