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I agreed with how we said that students need better guidance. Students who arent informed about the college process, the transfer process, and the A-G requirements often end up being aimless. This causes them to go to community college blind and end up taking an extra year or two or even more sometimes to just transfer. We need to inform our students more about these processes so that we can increase our completion rates, transfer rates, and graduation rates.

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In our Socratic seminar, the comment I disagreed with most was the idea that high schools already do enough to prepare students for college. While schools may offer AP or honors classes, not every student has access to them, and many still graduate without meeting A-G requirements. This shows a gap between simply graduating and being ready for college. I disagreed because more support and opportunities are needed to ensure all students are truly prepared.

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The comment that I agreed with the most was that starting at a community college first can help you save money before going a 4 year. I agree with this because community college doesn't cost a lot to begin with and also usually people pick a school that's close to home so you don't need housing, along with the fact that community college classes are very flexible and you can work while going to school as a community college student.

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If I had an opportunity to go back to the Socratic Seminar I would ask what are the main reasons you would pick going to a 4 year over a 2 year or the other way around. I feel like this would have brought out more facts and reasons why either one is better than the other to start at. It would also help others realize what they would pick or change their mind or opinion.

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The comment I agreed with the most is that better advising is needed to help under represented students. Low income and first generation students need the most help because they most likely don't have family members they can ask for help. I would add to this idea how the Educational Opportunity Program is available to help these students. It's not just if the help is available, all students need to have a goal and a plan to complete this goal.

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I agreed most with the comment of Math and English being the hardest subjects to pass on your A-G courses. I agree because I do think math is overall a difficult subject for many people, especially because you have to reach a certain level of math. I agreed with the English too because four years can be tough for people to complete. If you fail one year it may be hard to catch up and get that course done.

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If I had the opportunity to revisit the seminar I would talk about how we can strengthen our programs that prepare students for college and also how we can motivate students to complete A-G requirements and go to college. I would argue that we need to invest more into programs like AVID and also try to advertise it more to students. A lot of students have never even heard of AVID because of bad advertising so they dont even get the opportunity to ask them. We need to invest more into expanding these programs and advertising it to more students.

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If I had an opportunity to revisit the seminar the statement or question I would make would be why is the completion rate much faster at private four years? Out of all three of the options like community colleges or public four years why is getting your bachelors much faster at a private school. Could this be the organization and there being less students to worry about or even better guidance. If so why aren't private schools being made a priority?

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If I were to have the opportunity to revisit the seminar I would ask a question which would be, do you guys think there are better programs on community college campus then in a 4 year? I wanted to ask this question but there wasn't enough time but I was left curious if by chance there is any programs out there in a community college that are way better on a 4 years since I've heard many different points of views on the type of programs community college has.

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If I had the opportunity to revisit the seminar, I would make the statement: “Community college offers not only affordability but also accessibility, flexibility, and a strong foundation for future success.” I would say this because many people underestimate the value of community colleges, and would only focus on the cost of attending it. They would be showing their role in lowering student debt, showing support for first-generation students, and preparing them for transferring or careers that shopws that they are more than a backup plan—they are a powerful first choice.

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I most agreed with Sals comment about attending two years versus four years during the Socratic seminar. He made a strong point about the financial differences, which I think is very important to consider. College can be extremely expensive, and the cost of attendance often determines where students end up going. By starting at a two-year college, students can save a lot of money while still getting a quality education before transferring to a four-year university.

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If I had the opportunity to revise the seminar, I would bring up the topic of A-G requirements and how many students in California are affected by not meeting them. A lot of kids graduate high school but are not considered A-G eligible, which limits their college options. This is a serious issue because it impacts their future opportunities. I think adding this point would make the discussion more meaningful and connect directly to student experiences.

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Disagree with- That it's mostly advising that is at fault when it comes to students not finishing A-G and not knowing what to do in college and not being prepared. Don't get me wrong I believe advising is a big help, but from what I know and what you should know is that there are many kids who receive help but don't act on it they still decide to live foolishly and then that cost them their future.

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One comment that I agreed with the most was that students are taking longer than they are supposed to to get their bachelors degree when starting at a community college is because of poor advising. I agree with this because they do not know the correct amount of credits needed and the certain classes that are needed in order to transfer. This causes them to take up to 6 years to get their bachelors degree.

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The comment I disagreed with the most was when someone had said that 4 year colleges did not want community college applicants and that is why it is so hard to transfer. I disagree with this because I think the main reason it is so hard to transfer is because a lot of people in community college do not look up what requirements they need for the 4 year college they want to transfer to.

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I agreed with the comment that was made about how four-year schools are more beneficial because they offer more connections and networking opportunities. I agreed with this statement because four years are bigger than CC's. They have more alumni who have gone on to do great things, which is what makes their connections strong. They have people who have done jobs in different industries and have found success in what they do. This is why their connections and networking are better than CC's.

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The comment I agreed with the most was that not enough students are completing the A-G requirements, even though they are graduating. I agreed because this shows a real gap between high school graduation standards and what colleges actually expect. It highlights how schools need to better align coursework with future goals, so students aren’t left unprepared. I felt this was accurate since many students want the option of college but lack the necessary preparation.

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If I were to give myself a letter grade for the seminar, I would give myself a B+. I think I talked a very decent amount and contributed ideas that helped move the discussion forward. I asked a couple of thoughtful questions and responded respectfully to my peers. While I participated, I know I could have gone deeper talking more and making stronger connections. Overall, I believe I did well but still have room to grow.

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When I think back to the things people said yesterday, the comment that stood out to me the most was that students need better guidance. This really stayed with me because I believe it is very true. Many students often feel lost about what they are supposed to do, whether it's with their school work or future plans. If students had more support and clearer advice from teachers, counselors, or other adults, it could help them feel more confident and less stressed.

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A comment that I agree with was that we need better guidance not just as high school students but also in community college. Most people especially in high school don't know things they should know going into college. So not knowing things like being A-G they don't end up getting into a school they want and end up going to community college, where they eventually will take longer to get their degree because of a lack of knowledge. If we made it mandatory to have a class like AVID I think it would be very beneficial for everyone.

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In our Socratic seminar, I most disagreed with Niko’s take that community college graduation should be a mandatory 2.5 years. I think it’s unnecessary and honestly unfair to force people to spend extra time in school if they are ready to transfer earlier. Everyone has different goals, schedules, and financial situations, so making it mandatory would hold some students back. College should give students options, not force them into a timeline that doesn’t fit their needs.

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If I had the chance to revisit the seminar, I would make the statement that graduation requirements should match college readiness requirements. Too many students are misled into thinking a diploma guarantees they’re prepared for the next step, when in reality, many fall short of the A-G standards. Saying this would push the discussion toward fairness and responsibility, emphasizing that schools should better prepare students for all options after high school, not just graduation itself.

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The comment that agreed the most was that people in community colleges need better advising. Not everyone knows what to do when going in and this causes them to struggle. The thing that makes it worse is the poor advising at that school and guidance during high school as well. Not everyone took AVID or had counselors that helped. This can cause them to not be able to transfer out of the community college or even just drop out in general.

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If I were to grade the seminar I would give it a B-. I feel like we did good but we have a lot of things that we could work on. Not everyone talked and some people only said 1 or 2 things. I think next time if we get more engagement, better questions, and more in depth answers then we can get a better grade. We did good with using evidence from the articles and quoting sources, we also did very good with including others in the conversation. Overall we have things to work on but we did ok.

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If I had the opportunity to revisit the socratic seminar I would have definitely asked more questions. I would have asked What do you think would happen if states align A-G completion with graduation requirements. I would want to see how people feel about that, especially because some people do not have the same goal of going to a 4 year. I would also want to know because would less people make the effort to even graduate from high school? There are many things I should have brought up.

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If I were to give a letter grade for the seminar I would give it a C+. I think we all could've did a better job keeping one conversation going rather than going from question to question. There were certain things we could've gotten more in depth about. Personally, I didn't answer certain questions because I was trying to give everyone who didn't answer a question a chance to. If I were to give myself a letter grade I would give myself a B+.

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A comment I agreed with during the seminar would have to be one made about how it's both equally the schools' and students' fault for not allowing certain credits to be able to be transfered. Its the school's fault for not helping and properly preparing their students for the transfer. Whether its the student not reaching out or just slacking on the counselor's part I also agree that its the student's fault to not checking ahead of time to see if those credits were transferable.

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If I had the opportunity to revisit the seminar, I would like to make a statement on the articles and how 68% of black students and 64% of Latino students did not meet A-G requirements. This affects more than half of the students, and I wonder why this is happening and what everyone thinks is a solution, and the reason behind it. This is a huge topic that I am surprised no one has talked about because many Hispanic and black students in California should be given more attention.

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I would give the seminar a solid B+. The discussion was engaging and covered important points about graduation versus college readiness, with multiple perspectives shared. People built on each other’s ideas, and there was good evidence used to support arguments. However, I felt some voices were missing, and a few topics could have been explored more deeply, like how specific programs could help close the A-G gap. Overall, it was strong but still had room for improvement.

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If I had the opportunity to go back to the Socratic Seminar I would answer the question on " Which subject would make you not A-G?". I had a lot to say about this because I knew that many people struggled with different subjects but I would've said math. Many people also said that but they had different reasoning but I think that If I told my part then I feel like I would've been more of a conversation then people just saying a couple of sentences.

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Looking back, if I could do the seminar over again I would present more questions about why students don't reach out for more guidance. While counselors could do more to go out of their way and reach out to students, I wonder why students feel they can't do the same? Or if they feel they can then maybe there's a reason they don't. I would also bring up the low rate of first-gen students at VC and try to get a better understanding of why.

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The comment I disagreed with the most was that most people that go to a community college don't make it to a 4 year. I think maybe the stats don't lie but I think a majority of kids and people that I have talked to is that when they go to community college is they feel more prepared ready and somewhat ahead and on track to do well at a 4 year and transfer to a majority of schools they have always wanted to go to.

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I would give myself a B-. Because I was only there for a short while and only asked one question. Some arguments were strong and well-supported with evidence, but a few ideas could have been expanded further to make the conversation even richer. Overall, it was thoughtful and collaborative, but adding more diverse perspectives would have elevated it to an A-level seminar. But I did like how some people covered financial aid and communtiy colleges.

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The comment I disagreed with the most is that our school truly prepares our students for college. A-G requirements are rarely mentioned by the school itself, however, our AVID program mentions them every day. Our school doesn't do enough to remind students that in order to go to college you need to meet certain requirements. Nor does our school mention the types of colleges available after high school. One thing I've never heard from the school is the cost of college and how to deal with that. Most non-AVID students go into a 4yr or 2yr completely blind into the path that's ahead of them.

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If I had the oppurtunity to re visit the socratic seminar a statement I woud have made is why do transferring two year students need extra help when transferring into a four year university. I wish I had the opportunity to ask this question because I would have liked to hear other people’s opinions and statements on my question. Also just because it’s important to know information like that if I were ever considering going to a four year university.

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A comment I disagree with is it being the community colleges fault for the long time it takes to get your bachelor's degree. I understand that advising is not the best at community colleges but how hard is it really to advocate and speak up for yourself to the counselors. Not only that but majority of people have access to the internet for any questions that they may have. I think high schools play a bigger role because they don't really make it too engaging or push you to be A-G. So then your forced to go to these CC's.

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The statement I disagree the most on is that community college will help you save money in the long run. Although it is technically cheaper. The fact that many kids cant transfer everything over and basically need to restart from the beginning when transferring to a 4 year which delays the time between when they can start their careers and actually have a good income. this delay is a lot of time thrown away and the fact that they need to on average go to school for 6 years total for their bachelors completely destroys the purpose of going to a cc in the first place.

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The comment that I was most proud of was when we talked about how the transfer rates were low because of a lack of guidance. This was the main idea of the articles and it is so important to talk about because of how big of an issue it is. A lot of students end up not going to college or going into college blind because they were not taught about how the college process works. Also many students struggle to transfer in time because of how complicated it is to learn how to transfer by your self.

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If I had A chance to revisit the seminar and to make another statement, I would probably ask people if they think that there should be more support or better support in high school, which would help more students want to go to college or feel more comfortable about it. I think I would ask this because I feel like we do have a good support system for college students, just have to want the help, but is there any way we can make it better?

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If I could revisit this seminar, I would like to ask about FAFSA for community colleges. I feel like that topic wasn't brought up enough, and it would help people who are planning on going to a cc. This is a topic I would like to know more about as well, and I feel like the people around me and I haven't touched on it too much. Another thing I would have liked to ask is how you can network at a community college (CC) like a 4-year college, since you don't have high-level professors at a CC.

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If I was to give a letter grade for our seminar I would give it a B. I think for the most part we had some good points but could've been better. I also know that not everyone asked questions or got involved which could have made the conversation better. Some good things were that everyone was respectful and listened when others were talking. It didn't seem like arguing but stating points on the benefits of both sides.

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I disagreed with the idea that high schools are already doing enough to prepare students for college. While some schools offer AP or honors, not every student gets the same chance. Many graduate without meeting A–G requirements, which makes it harder for them to apply to universities. I think schools should provide more resources and guidance to make sure all students are equally prepared for the next step. Even though there are many resources at school, schools don't go out nd reach out towards the students.

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The comment I agreed with the most from the Socratic seminar was how a 4 year can benefit you in other ways after college than how a 2 year can. For example when you attend the same 4 year all through college you will have multiple connections and stronger bonds with these people. Than if you went to a 2 year and transferred your connections might be limited or even closed off since everyone else already has there own thing going.

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If I had the opportunity to revisit the seminar I would ask a question about why more non first gen students are attending Ventura college rather than first gen students. In the seminar we talked about first gen and non first gen. But, no one mentioned how more non first gen students are attending a CC. I would add that I would expect more first gen students to attend a CC rather than no first gen.

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If I had the opportunity to revisit the seminar, I would ask what resources are available at each type of school to support academic success and student life. I am really curious about this because I have just been hearing bad comments on how the support is not there and how the counselors give poor advice. Why is this? There should be a reason behind this. What support is being given to these students? I feel like there should be a strong support system in place to help students find success. It should be hard for kids to fail if they have the support they need.

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If I had an opportunity to revisit the seminar I would probably ask how long on average does it take students with good advising to transfer from a community college to a four year college to get their bachelors degree. I wonder if they receive good advising they can get it down faster than 6 years. I would also ask how long it would take a student who starts at a four year college. Based on the answers I would know how much advising really affects students graduation rate.

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If I would give myself a letter grade I would give myself a C- because I knew I could've said more and asked a lot more questions. But I was shy and I didn't know when I should talk or not interpret anyone when they were talking. But I wanted to add on to if we had enough guidance here at ACHS, because I felt like I could've added on more to do that.

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I was really proud of how everyone talked about the differences and benefits during the Socratic seminar, not one comment really stood out to me. People spoke clearly and actually listened to each other, which made the conversation feel real and not just forced. There were a lot of good points brought up, and I liked how different people connected their ideas together. Even if someone didn’t agree, they explained their side respectfully. It showed that everyone had thought about the topic and wanted to share their perspective.

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A comment that I agreed with the most was that there should be more help/advising for students trying to transfer or even choosing the right classes to take in order to graduate on time or to be able to transfer into a 4 year college. More and more community colleges should have specific programs or paths for transfer students so that they know their requirements. I also think that starting at high school, many students should have one on one conversations with their counselor so that they know what community college may look like if they chose to take that path.

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In the socratic seminar I disagreed the most with the comment mentioning our high school does enough to prepare for college. I am very fortunate to have the class AVID. I also know we have workshops, but most of the time students do not take advantage of it and it is not pushed on students enough. Also, speaking to most of my friends not in AVID have great GPA’s and have colleges and goals they want to reach, but have no idea what is going to happen and how to prepare for college at all. Making me notice how behind someone can be, since they are not talked to enough about the preparations for college.

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The comment that I agreed with the most was when student transfer rates were low, because some didn't know what classes, so some took more time than others because of certain classes that didn't transfer also some did not know what to take and some did not have good advising from their schools, which needs to be improved and how we said that some don't know about how to get into college and what classes will transfer. (77 Words)

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If I had an opportunity to go back into the seminar I would talk about how and what we can do to help our advising and make it so more people are A-G and graduate. I think it should have been talked about more because of how much it can affect someones life by going to community college first. More programs and classes that are like AVID would help everyone. It would give everyone need to know knowledge about going into college and the differences in a 2 year and 4 year.

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If I had the opportunity to revisit the seminar I would have talked about first gen, low income. In the first article it talked about how only 11 percent of first gen, low income cc students transfer into a four year and they are more likely at risk of dropping out. The percent is pretty low what could be possibly done to fix the percentage and what main factors should first gen, low income students look at if they are interested in transferring? How can they look for advising and for resources around them?

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I agreed with the comments about students needing better advising. Most community college students are low income minorities, who probably don't have family members that are in college that they can go to for guidance. Those students are going into community college blindly thinking they can just do 2 years and transfer, when it isn't that simple. Community college students are also more likely to drop out and not continue their education at a higher level. Community college students need better advising and better help when trying to transfer to a four year school.

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A comment that I made during the seminar was that "your work ethic determines if a 2-year or a 4-year is better for you. Only go to a 2-year if you are certain you won't fall behind and will be able to complete your degree." I am most proud of this comment because a lot of people have set opinions on community colleges, but they are doable with the proper work ethic. You must dedicate your time to school to get your degree within the 2-years and not be stuck at community college forever.

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I would give myself a C- for the Socratic seminar because I know I could have done better. I didn’t talk as much as I should have, and when I did speak, my answers were kind of short. I felt nervous and wasn’t sure when to jump in, so I held back. Even though I listened to others, I didn’t add enough to the conversation. Next time I want to prepare more and try harder to join in.

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The comment that I agree with the most is how four year schools offer a lot more benefits to students with connections and time frame of being there. I think that you don't really get these connections at community college because it is a commuter school and not a lot of things happen around the campus to get you to know people. Someone also brought up the intern ships that you can gain from knowing your professors at four years which just seems to be a lot more beneficial than a community college would.

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If I had the opportunity to revisit the seminar, one thing I would bring up is how community college can be a great chance for students to explore different majors and take different classes. I think it's important to talk about this because many students are unsure about what they want to do in the future when they first start college. This was one of the biggest reasons I would go to community college. Community college gives students the time and space to try out different subjects, learn about what they enjoy, and discover what they are good at. This kind of exploration helps students figure out who they're and what path they might want.

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If I were to give our seminar a letter grade, I would give it a B+. There were good discussions throughout the seminar. Some things that could had been better were fewer awkward moments of silence. Maybe having less questions with two parts because people would think to hard into how to have a good response for both questions. Along with trying to dive deeper into people's questions that were asked cause people would ask good questions and the responses being given were jsut lacking a little.

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I agreed with the comment that students need better guidance about the college process. Many students don’t fully understand A–G requirements or the transfer process, which can hold them back. Having more support and clear information would prevent students from wasting time and would make it easier for them to reach their goals. As much as there are guidance and resources like AVID at high schools. Some students don't have that class. Students not in the class should be given guidance.

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The comment I personally agreed with the most was when someone said it usually takes longer when starting at a two year university or not even finishing their education there or choosing to transfer because of poor advising. I agree with that because if you go into two a year univeristy and have no idea on which credits will transfer or on transferring in general it could set definitely set you back.

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If I had an opportunity to revisit the seminar, I would want to ask the question if there was an advantage of going to a 2 year before a 4 year. I understand many of the transfers are more committed to their degree but that doesn't make up for the connections that you miss out on by showing up at a 4 year later than everybody else. Also many times you need to retake a bunch of slightly different courses so it ends up taking so much longer to get your degree. with this I just want to see any argument that advocates to go to a cc first.

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A comment that I disagreed with was that community college will help save money in the long run. A lot of people think this because of how cheap community college is but nonetheless you are paying money and when you transfer you not only pay the tuition and fees, you also stay longer than what you think, an extra year. Which you are paying around the same as if you went to a 4 year in the first place.

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The comment that I agreed with the most was that community college is the right path to go to first. I agreed with this because, people don't have the money to attend a 4 year or they are first generation and they are lost with everything. I also think that some people don't wanna leave home or their parents want them to stay closer to help them around the house or take care of their siblings.

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The comment that I was most proud of was the one where I asked, "What would the U.S. look like if community college were free for everyone?" I was proud of this comment because of how community colleges provide opportunities for first-generation and low-income students. I felt that it highlighted an important social impact, showing that education should be accessible to everyone, not just those who can afford expensive universities. That's why I was most proud of this comment that I made.

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One comment that I disagreed with the most is that four year colleges do not want to accept people transferring from a community college because it will give their school a bad reputation. I do agree with this because I have heard that you have a better chance of getting into a CSU or UC school after doing two years at a community college, as long as you completed all of the requirements that are needed to transfer.

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For myself, I think I would get a D. I didn't talk much, and I didn't have deep-level questions. I was not prepared for it. I did not have any of my notes, and I feel like I went into this unprepared. But the next one, I will try thinking of deeper level questions and have my notes with me so I can join in with the talks more. I feel like I need to be more confident with my work and more confident with my voice as well, and say every word like I am proud of it.

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If I could revisit the seminar, A question I would ask is how schools can provide equal opportunities and resources for all students. Some students receive extra help or access to honors and AP classes, while others do not, which creates an uneven playing field. I would bring this up to highlight how unfair this difference is and to discuss what changes could be made to ensure everyone has the same level of preparation for college.

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If I were to give the seminar a grade, I would give it a C. I feel like both groups had the same topics of conversation which is to be expected but all of the same points were made. Nothing got really expanded on and everybody just made the same arguments. Also, the same couple of people carried the conversation and I feel like a lot of topics were really good conversation starters. I think something that we could improve on for next time is getting more in depth with each topic.

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A comment I agree with the most is the need for solutions to help students transition into 4-year programs. The groups talked about how they should have better advising and counselor help. I agree with this because many students are not knowledgeable about the steps and requirements to transfer, so they end up doing the wrong thing or taking useless classes. Community colleges should have counselors for transfer students, specifically to help them and be a guide.

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If I were to give a grade for the seminar I would give a B+. I feel that it was hard for some students to talk and some chose not to, when you're graded based on speaking to your peers. Though, there were students that put an effort into talking and kind of guiding groups. The students that did so actually did a very good job and brought the grade up pretty high. Even some of the students that did not want to speak did what was needed like asking a question and responding and interacting with what others had to say. Causing the grade to be pretty high, only being lowered because some chose not to do what was needed.

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If I had an opportunity to revisit the seminar a statement I would make is, try to give students role models or kind of like make a program where the younger students can communicate with the older students and see what they did in their time of highschool and what they would differently. This way younger students can be more comfortable and learn from mistakes instead of having to figure out on their own. My personal experiecene was with my brother he's very smart and when constantly seeing him do good that's what I wanted for myself and since he was knowledgeable on pretty much everything I was able to communicate with him and gain the knowledge for myself.

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If I were to give a letter grade to the seminar, I would probably give it a C+. I say this because not very many people spoke, including me. I was very disappointed on how I didnt ask more questions or spoke on certain topics. A lot of the students gave answers but most of the time it was just one person answering the question. I feel like we would get a higher grade if more than one person chimed in on one question. More participation and interaction would ultimatly help us boost our score for the seminar.

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If I were to grade the seminar and give it a letter grade it would probably be a B-, because although we did have good conversations, good questions, and also pieces from articles, I think that the conversations that we had were going into dept. I also think that we could have asked more questions and higher up questions so that we could go deeper into the conversation instead of straight up switching up into another question. Also connecting those questions to our articles and plus the video that we saw as well.

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A comment I disagree with that was said was high schools are preparing schools for college. I think as AVID students we believe that because we have so many resources that are preparing but we don't think about students who aren't in AVID. Students that aren't in AVID may have some information about college but no in depth information. Although we have the college and career center doesn't mean students are going there to find or ask the information they need to know to prepare for college. English,Math,History teachers and more are not in their subject classes talking you through college applications or FAFSA like we are in AVID.

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I would say the comment that I was most proud of was when I added on to the benefits of four years. I brought up how even the dorms are beneficial and make it easier to meet people. I think I probably could have gone into it deeper in depth and explained it more but I think I did well not changing the topic and trying to add on to it overall. I think next time I just need to explain it a bit better on why there more beneficial.

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The comment that I had agreed with the most during the Socratic seminar had to be about the lack of help for students who are transferring from a community college to a university, or for the students who need to know what class credits will transfer over to what schools. I feel like many people will get confused that some of their credits won’t transfer over, making them take the same classes again. As well as students who may be first-generation, and their parents don’t know about the transfer process.

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If I had the opportunity to go back into our socratic seminar I would ask "Why do you believe only 15% to 16% of community college students complete their bachelors degree within 6 years? and what are the ways can we help them cut this time down?". I feel like we kind of skipped over this topic and it was only briefly mentioned when this is a major topic that has been mentioned in all 3 articles.

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The comment I was most proud of was when I said that transfer rates are low because students don’t get enough guidance. This was the main point of the articles, and it stood out to me because it is such a big issue. Many students either don’t go to college or start college without knowing what to expect, since no one teaches them how the process works. On top of that, transferring can be very confusing, and a lot of students struggle to figure it out on their own.

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If I were to give myself a letter grade for the socratic seminar I would grade myself a C-. I would give myself that grade because yes I did my part on commenting and asking a question. But I definitely could have done a way better job on being more engaged and more talkative during the conversation. I also think I could have asked a higher level question and my comment could have been longer and more detailed.

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If I were to give myself a letter grade for the seminar I would give myself a B. I would give myself a B because I think that I could have talked a little more. But I would say I was still listening a lot.

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The comment that I agreed with the most was the conversation about students needing better advising during the application process. I think that students need to also have stronger advocation skills, but counselors need to provide clearer and more consistent advice as well. Especially when it comes to first-gen students or those who are less educated about college expectations, advisors need to give proper guidance, follow up with students throughout the process, and make resources more visible.

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I disagree with the comment that was made about the reason why transfer rates from community colleges to four-year universities are low. Some people believe that the main reason is because students are lazy or unmotivated, but I don’t think that’s true. One of the biggest reasons transfer rates are low is because many students aren’t aware of the requirements they need to meet in order to transfer. A lot of students don’t get clear information about what classes they should be taking, what deadlines they need to follow, or what each university is looking for in a transfer student.

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The comment that I disagree with was if highschool students are prepared to go to college. I disagree with this because the high school may offer AP and honor classes. But these do not prepare you for college they think that they are but they aren't. Some students still don't graduate A-G . This shows that students don't have enough guidance at high schools and seeing unprepared highschool students are.

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I would give this seminar an A because I think we brought up a bunch of good smart points about community college and minorities and college completion and I think it was very intellectually stimulating and I was happy to hear a bunch of other point of views, some I disagreed with but I still respected. I liked this seminar so I give it an A. the only complaint is I wished more people talked, I feel like it was only the same people talking.

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A comment I agreed with the most is that Low income,first gen students may not have the same support as other students. Their parents have not gone to college and they wouldn't know how to help them through the process. We brought up how that brings more stress to the students and that is why they may not complete community college if they start to attend. First gen students need a little more support than non first gen students because even if they go home and talk about it their parents can't help.

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I disagreed with the point that low-income students do not have anyone to help them out. I believe we can all find help for someone. Help is all around us, and we make the choices to use the help. Sometimes these kids are not motivated to go out there and get the help they need. They wait for the longest time, and by the time they ask for help, they are too late. We have help everywhere, and it is our job to utilize it to the best of our ability.

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The comment I disagreed with the most during the socratic seminar was when someone said high school prepares us enough for college. In my opinion if you aren’t in AVID then you could get very lost and blindsided because you don’y know all the requirements and opportunities to prepare you for college. High school doesn’t require you to reach the college standards and they don’t really talk about college at all, unless you go to workshops on your own or are in a college preparatory class.

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I think one of the comments that I disagreed with the most in the Socratic seminar is that our high school prepares us for college. I did not really agree with the statement because I do feel lucky that I am in AVID, so I have support from teachers and students in my class, but I feel like if I were not in AVID, I would be so confused right now. I would not know anything about scholarships, applications, or dual enrollment.

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A comment that I disagreed with was that our school prepares us for college. I know we have the AVID program and then AP and Honors classes but not everyone can get in or take advantage of it. In one of the A-G data links it states that only 48.8% of students graduate while being A-G. Even if they are A-G they will not know what to expect or do going into a 2 year or 4 year. They need to offer better advising in both high school and college to prepare students or at least offer different career pathways like trade school.

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If I had an opportunity to revisit the seminar the statement that I would make is how many students from a 2 year stop attending college and furthering there academic journey after receiving their associates compared to a person in a 4 year? because based on article one they said that people who came from 2 years are more likely to be done with the academic process after they receive just there associates, which like why wouldn't they just finish 4 years.

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The comment in the seminar that I was the most proud of and why, was when someone had asked what subject in school makes it hard for students to be A-G. I had replied with math and I think this could go for a lot of people. Because math is a hard subject to retain and I know for many people including myself I can find it troubling at some points. I am proud of this because I think I made a good general point.

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The comment that I disagreed with from the seminar most was that the responsibility of completing A-G and graduation requirements falls on the students more than the educators and counselors. Yes, students have to be the ones to put in the work and get themselves to ask for help when it's needed. But while this is true, counselors have a job and it's to offer counsel and guide students through these processes. There are ways that they can do more to ensure students meet graduation and college requirements and I don't think students should be at blame.

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I think the comment I was most proud of is asking if they actually believed that Community College actually saves money in the long run, since it usually takes longer to graduate with a bachelor's degree. I wanted to know people's opinion because you would be saving some money at first, but would you be saving money after you transfer and have to possibly stay at a college for an extra one to two years?

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I would give the seminar a B because I think there was a lot of people interacting from both groups and a flow conversation. But some people didn't talk or there was times where it would go silent and people who already talked multiple times talked again instead of someone new. We also asked a lot of good questions that were open ended and carried the conversations for a longer period of time. Overall I think we did a good job for our first time.

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If I were to give myself a grade I would give myself a C. It is because I didn't talk a whole lot but when I did created a whole spark about a whole other conversation. I could have asked at least one more and I could have made a few more comments about what I thought. If I gave the whole class a grade I would give it a B+ because there were moments where it was dead silent and the only way someone or everyone deserves an A is if it is constant conversation.

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The comment I was most proud of that we talked about during the Socratic seminar was when we talked about whether a 4 year or going to a community college for 2 years and then transferring to a 4 year would be more beneficial in the long run. I was most proud of of this because things I missed other people brought up when it came to that. There was also a lot of different things that could change the factor of if it's more expensive or not that we all learned about when discussing about it.

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If I had an opportunity to revisit the seminar I would ask how we could help high school students prepare better for when they decide to take the 4 year route. I would ask this because we talked about how a lot of people drop out of a 4 year because they aren't prepared. We also talked about how we are lucky in our school to have So many resources and wood shops to help us but what can we do to get that help at other high schools so they can be as prepared as we are.

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If I had an opportunity to revisit the socratic seminar, a statement I would make would be about the culture shock and transition from a 2 year to a 4 year. I have been told it is hard doing the transfer because most students have known each other for 2 years so building a click is difficult. Students find it hard to make connections and build relationships because not everyone is welcoming. Therefore, this is something I wanted to bring up to see my classmates input on it.

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A comment I disagree with is that community colleges save you money. When you think about it, you still have to transfer and pay for the Fee waivers, as well as pay for a 4-year college. When people take the community college route, they are in college for 5-6 years instead of 4, so in the long run, I feel like it can cost you more money. I just feel like if you would go to a 4 year you can save money and time and not have to spend more time doing college.