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outsourcing parts of the police service to private companies does not mean they will replace staff. it would meant that they would just be working for the private company instead of the police force doing exactly the same role. 

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outsourcing parts of the police service to private companies does not mean they will replace staff. it would meant that they would just be working for the private company instead of the police force doing exactly the same role. 

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STAFFORDSHIRE HAVE GOT CUTS OF 22.9 MILLION OVER 5 YEAR!

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first private company formed by retired police officers for £1 every week.

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FROM RAFE: the more I read these comments, the more I think the key question here is: *what is the relationship between PCs, PCSOs, and private police*?

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FROM RAFE: the more I read these comments, the more I think the key question here is: *what is the relationship between PCs, PCSOs, and private police*?

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Essex Police has announced £60million in cuts which will have to take place over the next five years and force bosses have openly said they cannot guarantee resources will be sent to low level crime reports.

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There is a perception in the Prison Service - especially amongst prisoners - that the only reason people join is because they weren't good (clever, fit, or brave) enough to become police officers, but still wanted to be in a position of (legal) power.  Are these the sort of people that the private police companies will attract.  

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There is a perception in the Prison Service - especially amongst prisoners - that the only reason people join is because they weren't good (clever, fit, or brave) enough to become police officers, but still wanted to be in a position of (legal) power.  Are these the sort of people that the private police companies will attract.  

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ESSEX POLICE CUT OFFICERS FROM 3,600 IN 2010, CURRENTLY THERE ARE 2,900!!!!

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During WW2 the worst war crimes were committed by local paramilitaries raised by the Germans in Eastern Europe to control insurgents.  The perception at the time was that the military looked down on the paramilitaries and wanted nothing to do with them, but published memoirs show that many soldiers regarded them positively, because the army  wasn't used for counter-insurgency operations.  Is there a parallel situation between police and private security companies?

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During WW2 the worst war crimes were committed by local paramilitaries raised by the Germans in Eastern Europe to control insurgents.  The perception at the time was that the military looked down on the paramilitaries and wanted nothing to do with them, but published memoirs show that many soldiers regarded them positively, because the army  wasn't used for counter-insurgency operations.  Is there a parallel situation between police and private security companies?

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When private police can't handle a situation they call the proper police. maybe there is a need for private companies to have similar powers as the the police?

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Confusing. Too many different kinds off 'police'.

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Confusing. Too many different kinds off 'police'.

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private police help deal with low level crimes such anti-social behaviour at shopping centers, allowing regular police to deal with high level crimes. 

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private police help deal with low level crimes such anti-social behaviour at shopping centers, allowing regular police to deal with high level crimes. 

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Rocky relationships throughout communities. 

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Rocky relationships throughout communities. 

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In South Africa in the 90s security guards were graded A to F, with A being licensed to carry a firearm and respond to calls (within the limits of the RTA) and F being a static guard usually armed with a baton.  Is the issue in the UK in the 2010s the opposite - i.e. that people who do respond will not be trained or authorised to do anything

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In South Africa in the 90s security guards were graded A to F, with A being licensed to carry a firearm and respond to calls (within the limits of the RTA) and F being a static guard usually armed with a baton.  Is the issue in the UK in the 2010s the opposite - i.e. that people who do respond will not be trained or authorised to do anything

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7 burglarys have been prevented by the private companies. They try to cover all streets at least 5 times a night

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The number of private security guards — nearly 1.1 million — dwarfs the 640,000 public police officers, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

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Private companies say that they are filling the void left by the cuts to the police.
There are concerns that private policing will be full of vigilantes just doing the job to make money and not purely to keep the society safe.

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300 house holds in Frinton- on- sea pay more than £100 per year to be covered by private security guards that patrol the coastal town

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According to Joyce (2010), the Civil Nuclear Constabulary, Ministry of Defence Police, and British Transport Police are a step towards private policing.  Is this correct?  What about PCSOs - are they a step towards privatisation?

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According to Joyce (2010), the Civil Nuclear Constabulary, Ministry of Defence Police, and British Transport Police are a step towards private policing.  Is this correct?  What about PCSOs - are they a step towards privatisation?

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Chris Grayling said "Paedophiles could be forced to wear GPS tags that would alert the police to their location.

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Using private companies to run the police force can end up making them immune from public accountability and the PCCC being disbanded in the future.

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Private security can offer a deterrence the regular police might not be able to offer

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Private security can offer a deterrence the regular police might not be able to offer

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West Midlands and Surrey police forces followed this initiative by issuing a £1.5bn procurement tender. This joint Business Partnering for Police (BPP) initiative was supported financially, strategically and ideologically by the Home Office.

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With the private companies having more money to spend on contracts than other charitable organisations. The charitable organisations will disappear leaving just private companies profiting from the probation service.

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The media scare the public into thinking the public sector staff are less experienced than police, however they quite often inherit police staff through TUPE regulations

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David Cameron stated that privatising probation is "tough but intelligent"

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Extra security for the public, surely this is not a bad thing especially with all the budget cuts

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Extra security for the public, surely this is not a bad thing especially with all the budget cuts

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Police forces don't think in terms of business process and unit costs, they think in terms of victims & criminals, evidence & arrests

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Private probation is seen as a way to save money but the company's will only be paid based on their success rate.

Could this lead to private company's dealing with people unfairly to get the result they need?

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"Bringing the private sector into policing is a dangerous experiment with local safety and taxpayers' money," This is because the police may fall into the trap of thinking the private sector can fill large gaps left by the austerity cuts. Which could lead to a very steep fall in performance and confidence from the public.

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Public are willing to pay for private security who have no powers.

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Private security only runs at certain times of the day, however crime can happen anytime.

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The only winners are private companies and shareholders who make profits at the expense of local services."

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Why should members of communities have to pay for extra policing staff? 

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Why should members of communities have to pay for extra policing staff? 

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Will the 'private police' work with regular police officers?

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In my opinion, any privatisation of policing is a bad idea because: (1) it will lead to the abuse of power and (2) it will exacerbate the differences between rich and poor, creating a situation in which "cops for cash" protect the haves from the have-nots.

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In my opinion, any privatisation of policing is a bad idea because: (1) it will lead to the abuse of power and (2) it will exacerbate the differences between rich and poor, creating a situation in which "cops for cash" protect the haves from the have-nots.