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In the first reading by Vicki Roach, the mistreatment and careless disregard for the prison population of Australia of the time were being discriminated against, not being able to vote takes away " a civic duty" that all australians are handed if they over the age of 18 and a citizen. Yes the prisoners are being contained/detained for committing a crime, but they still are people who wish to vote and participate in the scoial conventions of the 'outside world'

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In the second reading, imprisonment is conveyed as a dreadful and inhumane torture for the less desired individuals and groups in our society. In some cases, this undeniable true, and the commonwealths failure to recognise the need for reform  in such cases is atrocious. Yet, applying such standards universally would be rather negligent.

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I am not sure if some of the conditions in containment are either ethical or moral. Sure, there are very real reasons for the use of containment but how people are treated and the conditions they are forced to live in/ experience is horrendous and needs urgent attention.

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In the second required reading 'Postcard from the north Qld detention centre', the detention conditions and restraints on people appeared to be very extreme, is there an explanation for why these conditions have come to be?

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Do prisoners really deserve to be treated in such a way that is leading them to commit suicide? If a person commits a crime, his actions must be dealt with, but not trying to help the prisoner in prison to recover his life and put it on track is a wrong doing in its self by the detention centres and the government's behalf. Two wrongs don't make a right.

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The interesting thing is that the concept of a container that we may place hot food in to keep it from going cold, has been structured into our everyday lives to allow humans to be treated in the same way. Through detention centres and prisons people are isolated and closed from the broader society just like containers enclose food.

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Where is the line to be drawn for those we don't want in society.  Those that can not be rehabilitated no matter how much compassion is shown.  e.g. murders.  

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Where is the line to be drawn for those we don't want in society.  Those that can not be rehabilitated no matter how much compassion is shown.  e.g. murders.  

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I am not quiet sure if this thing that is so embedded in our lives and culture can be removed as it should be. Curr's article brings up many questions on how we treat, and the conditions of, not only prisoners but those that seek to become apart of our society. Also the isolation could be more harmful to their behavior in society

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I think of myself as a prison abolitionist. It's impossible to separate modern containment from its roots as a tool for controlling and subjugating marginalised populations/individuals. Can anything good/valuable ever be made of a system so thoroughly grounded in cruelty and violence? I honestly do not think so. Also it, like, doesn't actually work. So there's that.

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It's interesting that we contain and isolate people from society as a form of punishment because they do not behave the same as everyone else. By pulling them even further from what is deemed "normal", we are causing them to lose touch with what is indeed normal. Therefore from then on, it is "normal" to not be given a choice, it is "normal" to be treated like you are beneath everyone else. We are literally pulling away their self esteem and the last bit of humanity they have left then expecting them to go out there and act "human".

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After reading Vickie Roach’s story and through the media’s voice, it becomes apparent that there is not a lot of rehabilitation for prisoners released from prison. Prisoners face difficulty re-integrating back into society, can struggle to find a job and can experience psychological and medical issues. Through the lack of satisfactory rehabilitation, it is becoming more likely that this can lead to an ex-prisoner to recidivism. Is there a way that modern containment can use the resources we have readily available, especially in Australia, to help the ex-convicted live as a productive member of society and prevent a relapse of criminal behaviour?

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Do all those in containment deserve the treatment they are receiving? Do all those in containment deserve to be there? The state of containment, is that really appropriate even for the worst of criminals?

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I find the idea of containment interesting. That as Humans we have found a way to isolate people we deem as unfit for society. I am interested to know what other methods could replace conventional incarceration?

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Guilty until proven innocent? Pamela Currs article does well to elicit a strong response from the reader regarding the painted picture of such a facility. It is just like, if not worse than a prison. Considering they are seeking “asylum”. However, in order to protect citizens of this country, I can also acknowledge and appreciate fully the scrutiny they are under in order to protect us from what might be a dangerous minority. However, can there not be a more humane way to deal with this issue? Why does it take 22 months to clear someone as being ‘safe’ for our country? What about our moral obligation to our fellow humans seeking our help? Are we not morally obligated to help them despite the consequences? Is this not the philosophical question that should be considered when making these decisions?

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Containment has grown and developed with our morals and ethics in society which have been shaped by politics, crisis and our understanding of how to manage crime and criminals. I find it interesting how one perception of containment may have been demolished or closed, such as Female Factories in Launceston. Such places have reopened as Gaols because that became a more appropriate method of incarcerating criminals according to society and the changes over time.

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Even in today's society those who have been imprisoned or a containment facility find it hard to reintegrate back into society for many reasons.

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I find it so disturbing that people seems so able and eager to turn imprisoned and contained individuals into the abject or the 'other' rather than considering the patterns of marginalised groups and identities that are being consistently over-represented in prison populations. It seems like a form of willful ignorance, with the aim of ignoring the many societal and institutional inequalities, discriminations and other factors that occur to put someone in their situation. Perhaps some people realise that to challenge this system from which they benefit and are privileged would mean the possibility of disadvantaging themselves, so instead it is easier to identify those being contained as 'deserving' individuals who 'chose their path'.

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Containment is control systems in operation. There is seemingly a lack of constant monitoring of those monitoring the contained. We will see it in the news again. People of containment are not always treated fair. How do you validate the zoo? Are the animals in the zoo prisoners? Perhaps they are mentally ill.

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There are types of voluntary and non-voluntary containment or incarceration.

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