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" You Men" - Reader Response Miriam Perez 

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a section that stands out to me would be "Foolish men who lay the guilt on women,
not seeing you’re the cause of the very thing you blame." The reason why I chose this verse was because she criticizes on how there are some men that blame women for faults that the men themselves provoke. she also points out the hypocrisy of jugging women for the way they act and the behavior they use to response to the way men treat them. A closer meaning would be that society and unfairly holds women responsible for a mens desires or the double standards. I feel like the poem is still very relevant today because the double standard for the gender still exist for example the women are being judged for the same behavior a men is praised for. I do agree with her messages because it helps Promet fairness and also accountability for both gender and that respect and equality should top both ways.

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Lines 1-4 were the ones that really stood out to me, "Silly, you men - so very adept at wrongly faulting woman kind, not seeing you're alone to blame for faults you plant in woman's mind". Sor Juana is calling men foolish because they frequently accuse women of immorality or looseness, yet they're the ones who pursue & pressure woman into acting that way in the first place. She discusses how men should stop making her sin & then judge her for it. I feel ike yes, this is totally relevant today. We see it all the time. Guys who sleep around are "players'' but if women do the same thing, they get called every name in the book. This poem perfectly describes the toxic double standard. I totally agree with her; she used logic to call out unfairness, which is amazing. The blame belongs to the person who created the problem, not the one who fell into the trap.

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1. A verse that stood out to me was "For plain default of common sense, could any action be so queer as to oneself to cloud the mirror, then complain that it's not clear?"

2. I think that this means that some men negate common sense and deceive themselves believing something that is not true and then this clouds their "mirror" and then not see the actions that are clear in the "mirror" and complain that it's not clear.

3. I think this poem is very relevant today since there are still men that make these mistakes and see women in this way.

4. I think I agree with her since there are still men lot of men that treat women like this unfairly and unhumanly way.

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1. A Stanza that stood out to me was "if you’d give up pursuing them, you’d discover, without a doubt. You’ve got a stronger case to make against those who seek you out."

2. Sor Juana catches my attention here because what she is saying is that if you are a woman who knows better will not waste time pursuing someone who has bad intentions or not any good ones, and that you are better off focusing on yourself, and you will see how you will be stronger. Also, how according to Sor Juana that it gives no good and unfair treatments that are not honest views.

3. Yes, I believe this poem is still relevant today because of how many people are suffering from this and need to learn how to grow and move on from past experiences. This also shows the unfair treatments of women and how they will face frustation in their life.

4. Yes i do agree with her because she always keeps on mentioning the society she lives in

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"You Men" Alejandro Leon - Reader Response

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The lines, “You batter her resistance down, and then, all righteousness, proclaim that feminine frivolity, not your persistence, is to blame,” stood out to me because they expose the hypocrisy in how men treat women. From my understanding, Sor Juana is calling out how men pressure or manipulate women into certain situations, only to later shame them for the very behavior they provoked. The blame is unfairly placed on women, while men avoid accountability for their actions. This verse highlights the imbalance of power and the double standards that have long existed between genders.

Even today, Sor Juana’s words remain strikingly relevant. Women continue to face harsh judgment and criticism from men in various areas of life such as workplaces, relationships and many other areas. Society still tends to blame women for "provoking" or "teasing" attention or for not meeting expectations. It reflects a frustrating reality captured perfectly by the phrase, “You’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t.”

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"You Men" Jason Turcios Reader Response 

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1) “So why are you men all so stunned
at the thought you're all guilty alike?
Either like them for what you've made them
or make of them what you can like.”

2) what i understand is In this part of the poem, the poet is talking to men who blame women for things that men themselves caused or encouraged. She is calling out the unfairness and hypocrisy in how men expect women to act a certain way, even though men are the ones who influence their behavior. When she says, “Either like them for what you’ve made them , or make of them what you can like,” she means that men should either accept women as they are, since they helped shape them, or stop complaining when women don’t fit their idea of perfection. She’s basically saying that men can’t have it both ways they can’t treat women one way and then judge them for acting that way.

3) Yes, this poem is still very relevant today. The message about double standards, unfair treatment, and blaming women for things men also do still happens now. Many people still face judgment or criticism because of how society expects women to act, even when men are part of the problem. The poem shows that these unfair ideas have been around for a long time and that people still need to change the way they think and treat others.

4) I agree with her because it’s unfair to blame someone for something you helped cause. The poem shows how men judge women for things they influence, and that message is still true today.

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"You Men" reader response - Pedro Cisneros

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1. A stanza that stands out to me is the one where she sets the tone for the entire poem, which is, "You foolish men who lay the guilt on women, not seeing you're the cause of the very thing you blame."

2. From what I understand, the author is pointing out the hypocrisy of the men who criticize behaviors that they themselves provoke. She's saying men create these hostile conditions or pressures, then turn around and shame/condemn women for responding to them.

3. Yes, this poem is still relevant today because, although society has changed, there are still double standards in gender expectations. For example, women are often judged more harshly on relationship choices, appearance, and even ambition, while men don't face those same judgments or scrutiny.

4. I would say a lot of readers would agree with her. Her argument is not just about men, but also about the power dynamic and fairness in general. Agreeing with her means that you recognize that accountability should be shared amongst everyone and not to blame one group for problems caused by another.

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1."the woman who sins for money/ or the man who pays money to sin?"

2. Sor Juana is speaking on the topic of women making their living as sex workers and the men who are their customers. There is debate about who is in the wrong in this situation, and Juana's implied stance is that the men are at fault.

3. This topic is still highly relevant, especially in the case of women in the OnlyFans scene. They are "slut-shamed" and stripped of their dignity, but there is little negative light shed on the customers: a majority of them, men. A market only exists when there are customers willing to pay.

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"You Men" By Sir Juana Ines de la cruz- Luis Martinez

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The stanza that stood out to me from Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz’s poem “You Men” is:

“With you, no woman can hope to score;

whichever way, she’s bound to lose;

spurning you, she’s ungrateful—

succumbing, you call her lewd.”

In this part, Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz is saying that women can’t win because men judge them unfairly no matter what they do. If a woman rejects a man, she’s called rude or unkind, but if she accepts him, she’s called shameful. Sor Juana is pointing out the double standards men have and how they blame women for things that men themselves cause.

I think this poem is still very relevant today because double standards still exist between men and women. Society often expects women to act a certain way while letting men get away with similar behavior. I agree with Sor Juana because she was brave to speak the truth about inequality, and her message still matters now.

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1. A stanza that stand out to me is “Silly, you men - so very adept at wrongly faulting womankind, not seeing you’re alone to blame for faults you plant in woman’s mind.”

2. My understanding to this stanza is she is stating that when men wrongly have the fault or do something that is not right they still have the courage to blame women or have an attitude towards women through their wrongness they did and don’t take accountable to their actions and blame

3. Yes this poem is still revenant to this generation of people but I agree to her because it’s still seen these problems about men not wanting to take accountable of the blame.

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Daniel Velasco "You Men" by Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz

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Daniel Velasco "You Men" by Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz

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1. "Silly, you men - so very adept
at wrongly faulting womankind,
not seeing you’re alone to blame
for faults you plant in woman’s mind."

2. What I'm understanding is the poem criticizing men who blame woman for problems they've caused. The poem goes over men being hypocrites and double standards surrounding relationships. How men can behave towards woman and take no accountability.

3. The poem's still relevant today because we see a lot of double standards that have been normalized by cultures or society. I agree because still today it can be argued that these problems still exist when they shouldn't.

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"You Men" Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz - Crystal Ramirez

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1. “Still, whether it’s torment or anger--

and both ways you’ve yourselves to blame--

God bless the woman who won’t have you,

no matter how loud you complain.”

2. I have interpreted this section as when men get rejected their first instinct is to show anger and complain and blame women. The specific part that stood out is saying “God Bless the women who won't have you” to me is very powerful. It's saying that women are too good for you and will never deserve the women right in front of you. I feel like this expresses how immature men will act and how women should never settle for less.

3. This poem is very much relevant to this day because it discusses double standards in gender roles. In many cultures based on your gender you get treated differently and or have to do specific things at a curtain age. Women are often viewed in specific ways just because they are women, a lot if not all aren’t taken as seriously as men.

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Diana Ortiz “You Men” by Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz

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1. “When it comes to bravely posturing,

your witlessness must take the prize:

you’re the child that makes a bogeyman,

and then recoils in fear and cries.”

2. I chose this verse because to me it means that people can create their own fears and problems in their own minds and end up hurting themselves. For example, as it mentions a ‘child that makes a boogeyman’ which shows often how fears come from within and not something that’s actually real. She is saying that men create the problems themselves and act like the victims. She is calling out their hypocrisy about complaining and blaming women after.

3. Yes this poem is still relevant because double standards still exist. Women are still being judged everyday for the way they act.

4. Yes I agree with her because she is bringing awareness to the treatment women get. She highlights the importance of respect and equality.

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You men, Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz, David Guzman 

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1. A certain passage that stood out to me was “ For plain default of common sense, could any action be so queer as oneself to cloud the mirror, then complain that it’s not clear?”

2. This stood out to me because Sor Juana is saying that men blame women for being impure or imperfect, yet they are the ones who cause or influence that behavior.

3. I think this poem is still relevant today because society still judges women more harshly than men in many situations. Sor Juana’s message calls out unfair treatment and defends women’s right to be seen as equals.

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"You Men" By Sir Juana Inés de la Cruz - Mariana Rosas

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1. "Still, whether it's torment or anger and both ways you've yourselves to blame, God bless the woman who won't have you, no matter how loud you complain."

2. In this verse I select, I believe from my understanding that she is trying to say that men attempt to desire the woman they alway wish for even when the woman reject them. In other words, men see the rejections of the women as anger or torment seeing as they are being childish.

3. In my opinion, this poem can still be relevant today because we can still see some men having frustrations or blaming towards women when they get reject. I agree with her because she mention how men actions can be the cause of the woman's behavior without realizing it. That's say, woman's behavior towards men can be the cause for their outcomes actions.

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1. “When it comes to bravely posturing,

your witlessness must take the prize:

you’re the child that makes a bogeyman,

and then recoils in fear and cries”.

2. This stanza speaks on the faults many men have and create. Sor Juana is calling out their hypocrisy. Men are the creation of many things, they beg, they shout that they want something specific but once they see this creation becoming the main thing, they retract and start faulting others for something they wanted. She is speaking on the arrogance many men have and turn their backs on the creations they started themselves. She speaks on the hypocrisy they have on wanting something but once they see what they wanted they feel disgusted.

3. This poem is very relevant today. It is something that has and will probably continue to be happening for generations. Men and accountability is something that is rare. This hypocrisy and patriarchy she speaks of is something we are going through. This poem is about double standards on things men want but hate. Its a cycle that will always continue due to hypocrisy. I agree with her, she is calling out the hypocrisy of this patriarchy that has been created by men and the standards women are held but once the standards are “met”, men become disgusted of the very thing they created.

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1)"If with unparalleled eagerness

you solicit their disdain,

why do you want them to do good

if you incite them to evil?

You combat their resistance

and then gravely

say that diligence was frivolous

what they did.

The boldness

of your mad opinion wants to appear

to the child who raises a thorn in his side

and then is afraid of it."

2)Sor Juana criticizes the double standards of men who seduce and pressure women, then blame them for giving in. She logically asks, "How can men expect women to do 'good' if they are so intent on corrupting them?" And, according to the poet, what is most unfair is when, when a woman finally gives in, a man harshly criticizes her for being frivolous and dishonorable.

3)absolutely. Despite the fact that machismo, the blaming of women, the sexual double standard, and the control over female behavior were all written about in the 20th century, many women today still face criticism for decisions that men themselves encourage, and that unequal social pressure still exists.

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Samantha Menchaca - "You Men"  by Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz

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1. "You batter her resistance down

an then, all righteousness, proclaim

that feminine frivolity,

Not your persistence is to blame."

2. From my understanding of the verse, men are being called out for pressuring women, almost coercing them, and then the same men judge women for behaving a certain way. The woman is being blamed for "giving in" as if it's her fault. So men are not taking the blame/responsibility for what they did. I think it shows things such as power dynamics and hypocrisy.

3. Yes, this poem is still relevant today! I think that in today's society, women are heavily judged and criticized by men about things such as "provoking men" through power dynamics, expectations, and in relationships. We see this in the workplace, on social media, and in the dating circle. Unfortunately, it has become a social norm due to cultural stereotypes. It feels almost like the saying You're dammed if you do and dammed if you don't.

4. I would say I agree with her perspective. I think calling out the hypocritical behavior of society/men towards women is only right.

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1. "If you’d give up pursuing them,
you’d discover, without a doubt.
you’ve a stronger case to make
against those who seek you out.''

2. I chose this verse because she explains that woman have to stop following men and stop seeking to chase their attention rather than to let men chase woman. For woman to have High standards and they will become stronger than those men who have double standards and we can see this issue remain a problem with new partners, when a woman is forced to listen to the men and the men is stronger.

3. I agree with her because woman are supposed to be treated right and not like if they are an item, and no men or woman should have double standards, both men and woman have equal power.

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Linda Reza- “You Men” Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz

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1. “With you, no woman can hope to score:
whichever way, she’s bound to lose;
spurning you, she’s ungrateful—
succumbing, you call her lewd.”

2. I chose this verse because Sor Juana criticizes the double standards men have toward women. She’s saying that no matter what a woman does, men will find a way to judge her. If a woman rejects a man, she’s labeled cold or unkind. But if she accepts him, she’s called immoral. The poem shows how unfair it is for women to live up to men’s expectations.

3. Yes, this poem is still relevant today. Women are still often judged by society for their choices and actions. Especially around relationships or appearance.

4. Yes I agree with her. Sor Juana is right to call out hypocrisy and unfair treatment. Her message encourages equality and self-respect, reminding us that people shouldn’t be judged by double standards.

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Janice Justo You Men- Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz

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Janice Justo You Men- Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz

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1. "With you, no woman can hope to score: whichever way, she’s bound to lose; spurning you, she’s ungrateful--succumbing, you call her lewd."

2. My understanding of this stanza is that despite the efforts of women, men will always find something to nitpick at. There is always a double standard against women because no matter what men just view women with a sexist mindset, never living up to their unrealistic standards. I feel like this is still relevant today with unrealistic standard for women whether it be career wise, their looks, or their private lives. It's a situation where women are damned if they do and damned if they don't. I agree that society is really harsh against women and there is constantly this double standard against them.

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Luz Lopez - "You Men" by Sir Juana Ines de la Cruz

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1. "For plain default of common sense, could any action be so queer as oneself to cloud the mirror, then complain that it’s not clear?"

2. This verse stood out to me because the metaphor of the mirror is being used to capture the hypocrisy of men who corrupt or lead women into situations that could be seen as “shameful” and critique them for being impure or immoral. She exposes how men project their own faults and desires onto women, and refuse to take responsibility for the results of their actions. This verse shows her argument that women’s “sins” are often reflection of male influence and societal hypocrisy. This poem does seem relevant, its main message about double standards in gender roles is related to today’s society when it comes to victim blaming, sexual politics, and societal expectations of women. This metaphor still fits in our society, often about women roles or behaviors. I agree with Sor Juana. Her critique exposes a truth about gender inequality, the habit of blaming women for problems caused by patriarchal norms. Her poem challenges centuries of one sided moral judgment, urging self awareness that still feels urgent today.

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Salvador Rodriguez-" you men" by Sor Juana de la Cruz

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Salvador Rodriguez-" you men" by Sor Juana de la Cruz

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1. It's your persistent entreaties that change her from timid to bold having made her thereby naughty, you would have her good as gold.

2. This verse stood out to me because Sor Juana is showing us how men pressure women into doing things, but then to turn around and judge them for it. She's basically pointing out the hypocrisy that men are the ones who change a woman's behavior, but then expect her to stay "innocent". To me this still fits today women are still judged for things that men get away with. They are still double standards that are being pushed throughout today. I would totally agree with Sor Juanas point she's basically saying don't blame women for what you causd.

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"You Men" Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz- Gisselle Sanchez

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"You Men" Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz- Gisselle Sanchez

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1. "Silly, you men—so very adept at wrongly faulting womankind, not seeing you're alone to blame for faults you plant in woman's mind. After you've won by urgent plea the right to tarnish her good name, you still expect her to behave— you, that coaxed her into shame." This stanza is a sharp rebuke to the hypocrisy of men. Sor Juana is saying that men are quick to criticize and blame women for their supposed "faults" or immoral behavior, yet they fail to recognize (or willfully ignore) that they themselves are the cause of those faults.

2. Absolutely, yes. Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz wrote this in the 17th century, yet her critique of the double standard concerning female virtue, sexual freedom, and male accountability remains powerfully relevant.

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Alondra Castillo - "You Men" by Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz

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Alondra Castillo - "You Men" by Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz

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1. Stanza: "Silly, you men - so very adept at wrongly faulting womankind, not seeing you're alone to blame for faults you plant in woman's mind.

2. Sor Juana discusses the hypocrisy embedded in men's behavior and emphasizes how they fail to take accountability for their actions. Thus, implying that men sabotage instead of empowering, which then creates a sense of dominance and inferiority. Ultimately, the author exposes the hypocritical behavior of men and criticizes them for expecting women to conform to their demands.

3. Yes, I believe this poem is still relevant today because women continue to be undermined. I also agree with the author's statement because she reveals and exposes the harsh acts that lead to the development of insecurities within women. She highlights the importance of respect and accountability.

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“You Men” Sor Juana Ines De La Cruz - Alessandra Sanchez 

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1. “You foolish men who lay the guilt on women, not seeing you’re the cause of the very thing you blame.” This quote stood out to me because men don’t take accountability of what they caused yet they’re quick to blame women.

2. Sor Juana is calling out men for blaming women on problems they create. She’s trying to say it’s unfair to criticize the women. The poem is still very relevant because people still tend to criticize women and expect high standards from them. I agree with her because it’s not right to blame women for something men caused.

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"You Men" Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz - Christian Perez

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1. “Whether you’re favored or disdained,
nothing can leave you satisfied.
You whimper if you’re turned away,
you sneer if you’ve been gratified.”

2. In this verse, Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz points out the hypocrisy and double standards of men toward women.Sor Juana exposes this contradiction to show how women are unfairly judged in a patriarchal society that sets impossible expectations for them. Sor Juana challenges men for blaming women for behaviors that men themselves provoke, calling out the lack of accountability and the way women are forced into lose-lose situations.Yes, this poem is still very relevant. I agree with Sor Juana’s message. Her poem powerfully defends women’s dignity and intelligence while calling out unfair treatment.

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"You Men" Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz- Gabriela Garcia

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"You Men" Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz- Gabriela Garcia

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1. " With you, no woman can hope to score: whichever way, she's bound to lose; spurning you, she's ungratefull succumbing, you call her lewd."

2. My overall understanding of this verse is that women have a overall high expectations from men and overall society. Overall, all is hard for women to step out of those expectations. I believe that this is still relevant in today's time. Especially in today's political climate. I highly agree with this verse. Coming from a latin home there are a lot of expectation woman and woman are held to a high standards. When it comes to our look, opinion, and sexuality. All in all this verse is very true.

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Diana Moron - "You Men" Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz

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1. A verse that stands out to me is "Whether youre favored or disdained, nothing can leave you satisfied. you whimper if youre turned away, you sneer if youve been gratified."

2. The reason why this verse stands out to me is because Sor Juana was talking about the hypocrisy that men hold towards women. The way i see it, no matter what women do, men will always find a reason to criticize them. Women are placed in a situation where they cant win because society judges them unfairly. Even today women are sometimes judged for the same behaviors that men are praised for. And yes, i do agree with Sor Juanas message because she is defending womens dignity and calling out how unfair women are treated. Her poem is powerful and honest and it shows how this has been a problem for years and reminds us how important this problem is today.

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Marializ Rosales - "You Men" Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz

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1. Stanza that stands out:

“For plain default of common sense,

could any action be so queer

as oneself to cloud the mirror,

then complain that it’s not clear?”

2. Explanation / Meaning:

Sor Juana uses the image of a mirror to show how men blame women for faults they themselves cause. She means that men “cloud” women’s reputations and then criticize them for not being pure. It’s a powerful way of pointing out hypocrisy and unfair judgment.

3. Relevance today:

Yes, this poem is still relevant today because society still holds double standards for women. Many are judged harshly for things men are often praised for. Sor Juana’s message about equality and accountability still matters now.

4. Agreement / Personal reflection:

I agree with Sor Juana’s message because she calls out injustice and makes people think about fairness. Her words encourage respect and responsibility. Even centuries later, her ideas remain strong and meaningful.

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"You Men" Sor JuanaInes de la Cruz (2010-02) - Stephanie Garcia

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"You Men" Sor JuanaInes de la Cruz (2010-02) - Stephanie Garcia

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1. Select 1 verse or stanza that stands out to you.

“Presumptuous beyond belief, you’d have the woman you pursue be Thais when you’re courting her, Lucretia once she falls to you.”

2. Explain your understanding of the meaning. What is she saying? Is this poem still relevant today? Do you agree or disagree with her?

In this stanza, Sor Juana says that men desire seduction and submission from women during the chase, but demand purity and restraint once their desire is fulfilled. She exposes the impossible double standard men impose, highlighting how women are trapped in a no-win moral paradox where every choice leads to judgment.

Yes I believe this poem is still relevant today and very much agree with her. Women are still judged by contradictory standards; praised for being confident and attractive, but shamed if seen as “too much.”