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After reading the article " The High School/College Writing Classroom Disconnect", I got the opportunity to learn that everything that was taught in High School is not really necessary. In High School you are taught to write long paragraphs in order to practice for college, they(teachers) tell us that in college we are forced to write even longer paragraphs and that we were lucky to write only 5 paragraphs. I learned that it is not necessary to follow these rules that we were forced to acquire in High School; that we are free to write. I can also relate with this article in the part where he says that because of the rules teachers in High School imposed we have to create this “perfect” essay with words that we didn’t know existed or that is not in our vocabulary.  I just interpreted this article as freedom. He talks about even though writing is difficult, we are free to write whatever we want and the way we want.

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After reading Warner's article, it gave me relief. What I mostly took out of the article is that freedom is necessary and needed sometimes in writing. First year college students come in with this high school mentality and mindset, thinking about all the rules they have to follow because high school teaches you all of them and they lay them very hard on you. In high school, if you didn't follow the rules or format(s), there were consequences (receiving a bad grade or getting points knocked off). I have always followed a specific format because of this fear and after reading this article, and learning that you have more freedom in college makes me feel better, less stressed and happier about my writing. I also took in that sometimes, bigger, stronger words aren't necessary because they can sometimes fit in weird to the passage. Sometimes simple is better. I have always feared what every new writing teacher I get will say or what their rules will be because I get anxiety about it, but after this reading I feel more at ease.

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I am afraid of writing since elementary. I always don't have much words to say. In other words, I can't meet the words require. By reading the suggestion from old UWP 7  students and Warner's article, my stress is reduced. it seems like high school teach me on the rules of writing and practicing on it. The university writing is helping student to dig out their potential on expressing idea. My high school teacher always said, "let it flow", she meant write down all the words upon our mind and fix it with rule and topic later. That help me pass the high school English class. Also literature is difficult to me, I usually can’t understand the meaning of the sentences and reading it makes me sleepy.

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Just like most of us, after reading the article I have realized how in High School students are being taught how to write following some "rules" where in reality it shouldn't be like that. At first I was scared and felt nervous about this course but now I'm relieved that I'm part of this class because finally I'm going to learn how to write in a better way and I can't wait to learn all the skills I need to know in order to become a strong writer. Almost fine years ago I came to the U.S. not knowing any English and it was my dream to become fluent. Once I started my journey I built my way up to here but it was not easy. I remember crying because I was scared of going to my CP English class and completing my essay because I was struggling. As a kid I loved writing but that day I hated it and I wished I could go back home because writing there was not as complicated as it seemed here. But now I'm very excited to continue my journey from here and move forward.

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After reading the articles it made me realize that students spend all their time in middle and high school trying to learn and memorize those writing ‘rules’ that their teachers teach them but when they transition to college they have a hard time with their writing. In high school students are always told what and how to write but in college they have more freedom and many times don’t know what to do with that freedom. When they gave a list comparing high school writing with college writing it made me feel like in a way college writing can be easier than high school writing because you don’t have many strict rules you have to follow. I was always told my essays HAVE to follow the rules and many times that’s why I struggled with my writing.

When I was reading about the rules it related a lot to my writing in high school because it was always centered around those rules. While I was writing I always had to stop and ask myself if I was following all the rules or if there was something I had to change in order to follow the rules to be able to get a passing grade.

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As a Freshman who is studying remotely, it feels hard to connect with anyone from UC Davis. So that makes me feel a lot more nervous about how can I improve my writing for college. Reading some of the advice gives minor relief that there will be more intellectual writing in college. Rather than following some silly rubric, your grade is more likely determined by a paper's subjective content. I'm looking forward to writing more freely and trying to create stronger arguments rather than fitting it into some format. Also the more feedback, the merrier a writing class is from my experience. I hope that I will learn how to constantly improve my writing from this class so I can become a successful writer.

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As a Freshman who is studying remotely, it feels hard to connect with anyone from UC Davis. So that makes me feel a lot more nervous about how can I improve my writing for college. Reading some of the advice gives minor relief that there will be more intellectual writing in college. Rather than following some silly rubric, your grade is more likely determined by a paper's subjective content. I'm looking forward to writing more freely and trying to create stronger arguments rather than fitting it into some format. Also the more feedback, the merrier a writing class is from my experience. I hope that I will learn how to constantly improve my writing from this class so I can become a successful writer.

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After reading Warner's article, it gave me relief. What I mostly took out of the article is that freedom is necessary and needed sometimes in writing. First year college students come in with this high school mentality and mindset, thinking about all the rules they have to follow because high school teaches you all of them and they lay them very hard on you. In high school, if you didn't follow the rules or format(s), there were consequences (receiving a bad grade or getting points knocked off). I have always followed a specific format because of this fear and after reading this article, and learning that you have more freedom in college makes me feel better, less stressed and happier about my writing. I also took in that sometimes, bigger, stronger words aren't necessary because they can sometimes fit in weird to the passage. Sometimes simple is better. I have always feared what every new writing teacher I get will say or what their rules will be because I get anxiety about it, but after this reading I feel more at ease.

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The comparison between high school and college writing in Warner’s article and the “Transition from High School to University” article is greatly noticeable. In high school I was taught to always follow and was forced to use the basic writing format because “college professors would not accept any other format and you will automatically get a zero on your essay.” This was my teachers way of preparing for the next educational level, not knowing that it is easier or at least more lenient in college. After reading the articles, I now realize that college writing opens the door of opportunity to be more flexible and expand my writing without having too many limitations like before. Before, we were encouraged to expand our vocabulary into our essays, but it would often backfire due to not knowing how to correctly incorporate the word in the sentence.There were also times were I had to use all of the articles given to me into an essay, when in reality I probably needed a few articles to get my point across. I am now able to ease my anxiety over this class, knowing that I do not have to stress so much over an essay. Knowing that I am able to write freely without having to worry about the “consequences” like in high school.

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After reading Warners article it made me realize how poorly students in high school are being taught to write.  How Warren talked about how some students are being taught how to write with all the rules definitely applied to me. I have always been a big fan of writing and reading but somehow lost that spark as I despised going to my English classes in high school. By normal English classes being very rule oriented I believe it has made many students shy away from English and not be interested. I think that transitioning from high school to college can be a big step and in no way have the courses I have taken in English prepared me for higher level writing but instead have just made me better at following rules. In Honors English our teacher made us write using Jane Schaffer program which was a program our school payed for. This style of writing consists an introduction, body paragraphs (three or more) in chunks, and a conclusion. Within those body paragraphs you had to have a topic sentence, a concrete detail, two commentary sentences (with each sentence starting with "for example"), and a concluding sentence. I hated writing like this and made me to dislike writing. After reading Warrens article it made me excited to known that college writing is  more than just rules but about becoming a better writer.

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Warner's article made me realize there really are no "rules" in college writing. In elementary and middle school, I was taught my paper had to be written a certain way. In my Advanced Placement Literature class, I had more freedom in structuring my essays. However, my teacher still wanted them written in a few specific structuring formats. This organization included: a opening paragraph including a thesis, the body paragraphs containing 3 supporting sentences and helpful transitions, and finally a concluding paragraph. After reading the article, I realized I have complete freedom in my essays in college and there are no specific rules I need to to follow. The comments in the articles about the shift in students perspective from high school to college writing is exactly like my own. My entire life I have been following one format, but I have not had an endless amount of options. (Which does seem very scary to me.) However, the scary unknown is what will make me a better writer.

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Reading the two texts has eased my anxiety about this course. Many of the students taking this course feel the same way, and I shouldn't be scared of the class. This course is going to be very different from high school classes, where we had to conform to the rules of writing. In high school, we were limited to the rules applied and didn't leave much room for the students to develop better writing skills due to the same rules confining the writer. We tried making our writing better with better vocabulary since we couldn't change much of anything. Using more vivid words does help students writing but only for specific genres. In fiction, the writer creates imagery to capture the reader and help the reader visualize the scene from reading. It is one of the many reasons why people enjoy fiction. But it doesn't have much of an effect on other types of writing, and it feels like the words don't belong there. Some rules are helpful to keep the writers from making their writing too long and boring.

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In the article by Warner there are many points bringing up the clear differences between essays in high school and essays in college courses. He talks about how high school students are given a structure to follow of what exactly needs to be in their essay and this structure never changes as the years go by from freshman to senior year. He then talks about how this negatively impacts students going into college because these rules do not apply. I agree with what Warner has to say about these rules being implemented in students' brains as the only sufficient way to write an essay. From personal experience I do not feel I have completed an A worthy essay unless I have fulfilled all of the required “rules” that have been taught to us. This means that I am one of those students that get completely lost if not given a structure to follow when writing essays but I hope from this class I will learn to be confident in myself and learn new ways of writing.

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Warner's article made me realize the vast change in the transition from high school to college writing. In high school, writing is all about following the same basic formats for every paper to stay safe and get a good grade, but college writing encourages you to be more creative and try out new ideas. High school seems to be all about using the word choice and format that you think your teacher wants you to use, but college writing allows you to be more flexible, expand on that basic format, and use words you think will resonate with your readers. While I think there is a lot of truth to Warner's claims, it does not directly reflect my high school experience. My high school English teacher did what she could to encourage creativity. For example, with many assignments, she gave us at least two options to choose from. Some of the options were writing and giving a presentation, answering a number of questions about the book she assigned, writing a short story, or writing a five paragraph essay. Even with the essay, she gave us a choice of several different prompts which caused a creative environment.

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In Warner’s article, he repeatedly mentions the disconnect between high school writing and college writing. I think it is true since the writing I did in my high school is just copying the templates. For example, I began to study TOEFL writing in high school. I could guarantee that I have written more than fifty articles with the same template for TOEFL writing practice. The reason why I did that is my high school teacher told me that this structure is the best to get a score. The TOEFL scorer would read students’ essays as fast as possible so that students have to use the five-paragraph structure to get the scorer’s focus on their paper. All my writing experience before college is to get a grade. For me, it is like a task, but not I actively wanted to write. However, I think this situation will change in college because teachers start to encourage students to write in their own way and set topics by students themselves. At the same time, feedback from classmates will also be helpful.

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In the English language, we have rules on capitalization, quotation marks, punctuation, spelling, and more; we use all these rules to make sure what we write makes sense. In the early years, basic rules were followed, but as I went into high school, I realized that the rules became more complicated, more specific, and more restrictive as I went from one grade level to the next. It became more like a competition as to who could write the best to impress and please the teacher, to become the teacher’s pet, and to get that A. It became all about the grade and not about the learning the content. All of this creates bad habits as students transition into college. And as we saw in Warner’s text, students nowadays already bring bad habits into the college classroom. The rules we learn at a young age are hard to unlearn due to the fact they have constantly drilled into our brains. As seen in the texts, it definitely has become an issue, to the point where focusing too much on the rules could possibly restrict us from reaching our full potential. In high school, a lot of our creativity was blocked because of all these rules, and the question is, how do we get students out of this box and think outside of the box.

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After reading the article, I noticed that high school students are expected to follow many rules and eventually they believe this is the correct way to write essays or just write in general. This can put a lot of pressure on students and it might make them not like English due to all the rules and expectations. They are set to a high standard of writing. In college, it seems as if there aren't that many rules and they aren't as strict as high school rules. Students have much more freedom and this change can help them become better writers. This can help them express themselves better in their writing. In my experience, I felt a little pressure when all these rules were applied but eventually got used to them. It was a little disappointing to put a lot of effort into my papers and then sometimes getting points docked off because they didn't met some of the standards. Other then that, I didn't have much problems with the rules that they taught us.

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After reading Warner’s article about the high school to college writing transition, I agree that students from the start of their education should get an understanding of how the college writing will be, because it is very different from the writing that has been taught throughout lower school through high school. There are so many rules that are taught, for example, in high school that teaches high school kids to abide by, but the reality in college is the complete opposite. In college writing these students can have much more freedom in their writing.  I can definitely relate to this drastic change from high school writing to college writing. In the very beginning of high school I used to get points marked off if I added more than three reasons to describe my point in the paragraph. I also always felt so pressured to follow these rules even though I wanted to really enjoy writing.

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Reading these articles have made me realize how focused I am in following the “rules” that have been taught to us for writing. I feel that high school writing is more focused on teaching us how to perfect our format through rhetorical devices and diction. High school writing does allow for one to be creative but still within the “rules” they implemented on us. We were always told to follow a certain structure as explained in Warner's article. Warner's article displays the rules we were taught in high school but that in college are different and almost disregarded. It is surprising to see that in college everything we were told we needed to know to prepare us for college writing is not as important as knowing to get through to your audience.  College writing invites us to branch out and explore our writing rather than being constricted and writing the same essay every time. The clear distinction that the articles want the audience to understand is that college writing is not meant to have rules. College writing allows us and encourages us to find our own style and structure. It gives us the freedom to find how to engage with our writing rather than focus on crossing off a checklist.
After reading these articles I can very much agree with Warner because I am always focusing on following those rules and making sure I have all the components and structure that we have been taught. I am always afraid that I am breaking a rule or going on the wrong path. This is something I always focused on during high school especially when it came to persuasive and expository. I always struggled with creative short stories because I was so used to following a structure and with short stories I was allowed to write freely. However, after reading these articles it makes me feel excited to find my own style of writing. I am excited to take a different approach with my writing and actually have fun with it.

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After I read the article, I think the high school writing skills is still helpful because I'm a international student from other nation. I came to U.S. five years ago, and I have greatly improved my writing skills in the writing classes in American high schools. From the article, I agree that High school writing limits students' ability to think independently. They make students write through a specific template. This method is indeed the most useful way to improve writing ability for those students with weak writing talent such as me, who came from other country. As for those "banned" words, that rule forced me to learn more words to replace those "banned" words. On the other hand, this rule helped me to enrich more vocabularies. Both high school and college writing have their own advantages because they have different emphasis for students. College students have enough ability of independent thinking, so that they could be taught about how to write without rules. And focus on express their own unique position through writing.

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While reading Warners article a perspective that he mentioned throughout his article was this idea of rules. These rules are being created to have these sorts of requirements of how students should be writing. Something important that was also mentioned was that those rules are not all bad because it helps in giving a person an idea of how to maybe structure the writing.The Canadian chart shows a gap between writing happening in the different settings of college and high school.

It was interesting to see and acknowledge the perspectives of different authors. I agree with some of the ideas that Warners' article stated. Where he talks about the rules because it's something that was introduced to me since middle school and continued all the way to high school. I feel like having these rules my writing always revolved around trying to satisfy those rules. I feel like they did help me in some ways but I always depended on those rules.

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The article described how in highschool students are taught to follow pretty strict rules on how to write. These rules can make students start to dislike writing as they feel they aren’t able to creatively express themselves. In the article Warner acknowledges that these rules have a purpose. They serve to give writing shape and help young writers follow a straightforward guideline. Although this might be helpful in highschool it doesn’t help prepare students for college writing. Warner explains that this isn’t the fault of highschool teachings but the fault of college education which has not properly educated the outside world on what real writing consists of. College writing has very little rules and allows students to explore how they feel writing should go. From my personal experience I am excited to write in college because I felt restricted in my highschool writing due to these strict rules. I have never felt like I was able to truly express how I wanted to write because I was worried about having an introduction, three body paragraphs, a conclusion restating my thesis, and other structural guidelines.

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Writing techniques developed in secondary education restrict students from reaching their full potential in a college writing course because, in secondary education, rules presented were taught to students to excel in a writing course. In college, that is not the case; rules aren't required to excel in a writing composition course. John Warner, author of "The High School/ College Writing Classroom Disconnect," describes that high school students transitioning into college feel the obligation to write as taught in high school because they believe those developed skills taught will satisfy all college compositions. There is more liberation and creative thinking involved in college writing, allowing students to excel in their writing limits. There is no correct way of writing to satisfy a writing material because writing is broad.
I very much agree with Warner's article because even now, I still feel like I'm breaking the rules of writing while incorporating "I" in my writing. I've always felt like I've cross boundaries when breaking a writing skill taught in high school but what made me realized there is no correct way of writing was when I wrote my personal insight question for my college application. I developed better writing skills because I broke all boundaries taught in high school and allowed myself to exceed my limits.

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In the article, it explains the main differences in how to write an essay. For the high school essay, there are certain basic “rules” to follow for most of the classes. For example, the essay needs to be five paragraphs (1 intro, 3 body, and 1 conclusion), MLA format, and never use broad words (thing, stuff, you, or everyone). One of the most important sentence in the whole sentence is the thesis in a high school easy. I remember I needed to follow all of the somewhat different but basically the same “rules” from all the different teachers whenever I wrote an essay. I did not know the college essay is a whole lot different than high school essays. The college essay wants more critical thinking than just filling up spaces with certain rules. I thought it was good that teachers provide rules to follow in order to get good grades but not enough to write down all of my opinions.

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The Shift from High School Writing to College Writing

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The article from Warner explained his frustration with how students are taught to write. He states that the set of rules that are set into place from an early age do not allow students to reach their full writing potential. Although Warner agrees with some of the rules, like not using I on standardized assignments, the issue Warner has with the rules is that they do not allow students to communicate properly with the audience they are writing for. Warner also explains how it is the colleges/universities responsibility to unteach students the "rules" for writing.

When it comes to my experience with academic writing, I did not go through the sets of “rules” for writing. My English teachers were very carefree with the words we used as long as they made sense with the context of our essays. We however, did have the rule of not using “I, we, or us” in one of our classes. Having this rule really confused me when writing for my other classes as I was unsure if we could use these words when writing academically. Other than the “I, we, us” rule, my teachers gave us the liberty to write our essays however we saw fit.

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It feels like high school writing is more about regurgitating information and expressing thoughts in a concise manner, whereas college writing  revolves more around exploring and analyzing your point of view. College writing seems to emphasize the process by which your points are formulated, how your point of view and why it is credible, which is important since you've made it this far, you want people to listen. This perspective is mirrored in both the Article by Warner and the chart by the Canadian college in the manner  which they discuss the "rules" of writing in early education. Both texts are very critical of the rules imposed on young writers in order to satisfy requirements set by mislead educators. Warner highlights most of the writing done in early education is aimed towards one person. The teacher is the entire audience for the work, so it is obviously geared toward them. This means these rules are contextual, despite the manner in which they are taught. The Canadian chart depicts just how oppressive these rules are, and how it can limit the depth of the argument, the credibility of the claims and digestibility of the work. However this was not my experience in high school.  I went to a progressive high school which taught us these rules, but did not limit us to them, allowing us freedom to arrange more creative pieces of writing, through assignments that were aimed toward various different audiences.  

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Progression of Nuance in Writing for the Classroom

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The perspective that Warner gives is that high school writing education forces practices that are well-meaning yet actively bad when being promoted as the prescriptive standard for all good writing. The problem with these practices, he says, are that they encourage a formulaic thinking process for writing in vastly different contexts. When college education comes into play, there is a want for ideas to be displayed to their fullest extent; however, this reason for college writing does not align with those practices of high school writing. The Canadian chart which directly compares high school rules and college expectations is meant to help young academics transition away from those practices learned in high school, leaving room to develop nuanced writing.

Personally, I found both texts to have well described the conditions of writing for high school. They highlighted what most discouraged me in my high school English classes, the preference for rules and strict standardized form over nuance and thought. It did not help that for many of my school’s English classes, the teachers seemed to rule with an iron fist, using these writing rules to extend their authoritarian control.

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Writing is not just about what words to choose and what words to neglect, it is about creativity ideas, and emotions. Secondary Schools have been using limited rules for writing that students should follow in order to get a good grade or pass. In this way, it is just a routine for students to use the same procedure every time when there is writing. Since the students are always in the same box (stuck), there will be no creativity, ideas, or skills in their writings.

Moreover, warner addressed that choosing a suitable vocabulary word is crucial in writing. Since there is difference between ‘Said” and “Barked” and “Skin” and “flesh”, it is really important for the writers to use vocabulary words that can touch the reader’s heart and mind (Pathos).

During my personal experience in high school, I honestly was only following the rubric/rules on the first page of the writing and wrote my essays according to the rules.

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The article's perspective was that the “rules” students followed in high school, in essence, did more harm than good to students writing careers. This is so because in higher education, like college and university, these “rules” of writing are completely disregarded and are in fact sometimes necessary and vital to a student's writing. That is what I interpreted from the article, and I have to agree. These so called “rules” are actually limiting students from reaching their full potential in writing. I do not necessarily have a perspective on these rules compared to college writing because I have not had any college writing experience. However, I do look forward to learning more writing skills and not having to follow a certain list of “rules” when it comes to writing. To clarify, these “rules” of writing differ from guidelines of an essay.

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Before reading this article, I speculated that I always have to follow specific rules for writing. As learned in high school, my teacher gave us a list of words to be used and the words “banned” from writing to make it look more ideal. However, Warner believes that there should be no rules intended for writing. It is fair enough logic not to follow the traditional set of words and instead focus more on how the writer chooses to express his views. These strict “rules” do not allow school student to include their original ideas and often leads to “pseudo-academic B.S.” At the same time, it is important to stay on top of the guidelines provided by the professor. According to Warner, college students are more prone to make errors as they got away from restrictions but sometimes we just have to accept our mistakes. Through these blunders, students will learn and make a difference in the next assignment.

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In Warner's article, he believes that there is a disconnect between high school and college writing. The author describes the many rules that students prior to college writing are told to follow, such as the five sentences per paragraph rule. This results in students entering college with an idea that there is essentially a "right" way to write, but this is not the case in actuality. College writing allows students more freedom, there are no rules to follow; how the text will be structured is different in each essay and ideas/arguments will be presented in the way the writer sees fit.

I completely agree with the author's perspective. In high school, my literature teacher had given our class a copy of the Banish Boring Words! book that was mentioned in this article and encouraged us to not use simple words or "dead" words. In fact, we had an assignment to write the "perfect paragraph" and we were given a list of words we shouldn't use. This limiting way of writing made me very unenthusiastic to write. I was more worried about using the "right" words rather than worrying about properly conveying my ideas. I hope in this course I can break out of this restrictive way of writing and improve.

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Warner's article seemed to really hit the point about what it is like for current students, who have been so primed and conditioned in the ways of high school level writing that they are essentially shell-shocked upon entering a college or university setting. When writing essays, students were always told that the thesis statement had to be placed at the end of the introductory paragraph and it could not be longer than one sentence. However, writing papers in higher education, a thesis statement does not need to be included if it's not relevant to the topic at hand. Reviewing both the article and chart illustrated the point that the writing styles and structures adopted in the college or university setting allow for more flexibility, which can be both liberating and daunting to some students. At the end of the article, Warner points out that high school teachers should collaborate with members of the college faculty to sort of bridge that disconnect between high school and college writing. I believe that this approach would help to promote a more equitable and inclusive environment in the college or university setting, ensuring that all students, regardless of background, have access to the same resources to ensure their writing success.

I have personally dealt with the writing experiences described in Warner's piece when I was in high school. For as long as I can remember, the 5 paragraph rule was engrained into the minds of young writers. The idea that the thesis was to be positioned as the last sentence in the opening paragraph was also heavily emphasized. I believe that some of these "rules" that we as students were instructed to follow have in ways inhibited my growth as a writer. I wish that a more free, liberated style was encouraged, while also emphasizing the points of deep literary analysis. I hope that taking this course will help my growth in college writing.

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Transitions from High school to College writing

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Clearly, there is quite a disconnect from high school and college writing, especially here in the Unites States. Being from a different country, and doing the International Baccalaureate Program, I found these texts to be quite interesting and informative as to what I should look out for and how I should format my writings. As presented, High school writing often includes limiting and guiding students through rules and do’s and don’ts which can often limit the space for uniqueness, growth and critical thinking, while College writing often allows students to go beyond these previously limiting ideals and use their own interpretation of how to format their text and add uniqueness to their writings.

I have a different perspective on this, mostly due to the different education I received in a different country and in a different curriculum. I agree and understand where the authors perspective is coming from and agree with their outlook on the differences with college and high school writing, but they do not relate with my experiences of academic writing. I was taught to follow some rules, but not be limited to them, rather to expand and elaborate on my points instead of focusing so much on how many sentences are in a paragraph or what not to include in certain parts of my text. I hope to use my experience as well as the writings in the text to better my own works throughout college and beyond.

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Transition From High School to College Writing 

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Warner's article suggests that every rule we've ever been taught about high school writing is thrown away when arriving to college. A huge point in high school writing is that certain words are considered "dead" and banned from our usage, such as 'said", or "I". College writing doesn't have these restrictions. The focus shifts to how one's writing makes the reader feel, instead of trying to use the longest, most impressive words in our vocabulary. If the word "said" invokes the reaction the writer wants, then they should use it. No need for fancy words all of the time.

The chart illustrates the specific structure to every high school essay. They consist of five paragraphs, but the paragraphs couldn't be too short, or too long. There was the introduction, then the thesis, which consisted of three main points, the body paragraphs beginning with a topic sentence, and the conclusion. Instead, college writing gives you the freedom to come up with your own structure, and own way of writing. No more rules and restrictions. Instead, just a guideline.

These articles definitely relate to the way I was taught to write in high school. Very strict set of rules to follow and points off if you used the words "I" or "you". It's almost freeing to know that these regulations won't apply any longer.

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Transitions: High school and college writing

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I was quite surprised and interested in UWP007Y and writing requirements of universities since those are areas that I have never reached before.

At the same time, this is the first time I have taken a writing class in the form of an online class because of the epidemic. I expected it to differ tremendously from my previous writing class, including the learning content, the way of communication with classmates and teachers, and the way of taking writing class on zoom; In my previous high school writing class, in most cases, what I learned was to write down appreciative or narratives articles which follow that same rule again and again. I am tired of writing the same topic and taking no changes. which I expected to find from my college life and UWP007Y. I hope to improve my writing level within this course, broaden my writing content, and make my writing style more native.

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In this essay, the author thinks high school education use “right” to prohibit students from expressing their true thoughts and purpose. Teachers set up several rules for students to follow, offer the student the “right” structure with the “appropriate” word they need to use and cannot use. Even though these rules may not be totally unreasonable, but it limits students' willingness to express, making them put energy in thinking about what is allowed.

And he is right, this situation happens a lot, and it hurts my enthusiasm to write. I doubt it so many times in my writing course(especially TOEFL and SAT writing course). I supposed to write down a central idea, give an example to support that, and demonstrate a conclusion- even though I have nothing else to say, I still need to repeat the same ideas again to meet the structure. Also, I need to memorize many "good" words and use them in my essay to make me look knowledgeable.

And that bothers me a lot. I consider writing as a part of art, which is a way for human beings to share their ideas, feelings, and thoughts. It can be emotional, free from all kinds of structure and rules. People use many entries to show the variety of writing ways-prose, poems, drama, and so on. Now, these fantastic ideas and emotion are imprisoned in rules?

Writing is a part of my life and I am really enjoying it. Now, after finishing reading, I know I will feel more comfortable with writing.

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Differences between high school and college writing: Is it really different?

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I like to think of any writing activity as a painting canvas, where ideas are presented freely and without any rules. Warner wrote about how a considerable number of students fail to establish the fact that writing is meant to be expressed without restrictions that are often enforced by high school teachers.

Sometimes, these kinds of rules guide students to writing well as first, but it is essential to inform them that writing is a piece of art that only the writer is responsible of. However, as Warner showed, choosing the most expressive word for the intended theme of writing is a vital step towards being a great writer. Warner provided a clear example of this by distinguishing between the effectiveness of the word “skin” compared to “flesh.”

In my personal experience, every time I was taught writing, I had to learn how to structure drafts but not exactly how to “write” drafts per se. That method made me think of writing as a math course in which I have to memorize proposed methods to deal with numbers.

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With high school work, the preferred methods are the same, with strict structures to be followed. The difference with high school and college education is the nature of grading. In high school, students are given work that very closely represents the tests, and the correct answers follow the same patterns. Like explained in the article, the correct writing formula is literally a formula that contains strict rules. College does not particularly use these rules and gives a lot more freedom to the students in their learning path. College students often have to figure out how to study and answer questions without study guides. The rules don't matter as long as the content is of good quality and fulfills the requirements. During high school, my main focus when writing was not to write something amazing, but rather meeting the 4-6 sentences-per-paragraph requirement and making all of my quotes have unique, nonrepetitive modifiers. I wonder how long it'll take for me to break these automatic writing habits in college.

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With high school work, the preferred methods are the same, with strict structures to be followed. The difference with high school and college education is the nature of grading. In high school, students are given work that very closely represents the tests, and the correct answers follow the same patterns. Like explained in the article, the correct writing formula is literally a formula that contains strict rules. College does not particularly use these rules and gives a lot more freedom to the students in their learning path. College students often have to figure out how to study and answer questions without study guides. The rules don't matter as long as the content is of good quality and fulfills the requirements. During high school, my main focus when writing was not to write something amazing, but rather meeting the 4-6 sentences-per-paragraph requirement and making all of my quotes have unique, nonrepetitive modifiers. I wonder how long it'll take for me to break these automatic writing habits in college.

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When reading the article, it quickly becomes apparent that the author is trying to encourage people to approach writing in a different way. Instead of following the endless amount of rules, we are encouraged to look at writing with less restrictions. As college students, we should be writing essays with clear concise points and inputting our own creative touches. This idea is a lot different than the one given in high school where writing is encouraged to be written in a formula style.

In high school, I can easily recall writing five paragraph essays and following a specific structure. As a result, this has inevitably led me to despise English and writing classes in high school. After reading that article, it is almost liberating to find out that writing does not need to follow such a strict structure, and I am looking forward to being able to creatively write in many other styles.

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Based on the article, I would say that I am much more comfortable with the way that colleges encourage you to write over how it is in Highschool and below. I always felt like I was stuck when writing in my English classes, as if I had to follow their exact way of writing or I would fail every assignment because I did not fit their rules. Even my college writing prep class, in no fault of my teacher, introduced more and more guides like the writer of the article denounced. When you teach students how to write one way and one way only, you are capping their creativity and critical thinking from an early age. It might take a little to get used to this new method and having no guidelines to follow, even then I am genuinely excited to write again, opposed to how I was in high school. I am still worried on how I will adapt, but I am a little more relieved than I was before entering this class

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I did't know that there will be such a big difference between high school college writing before reading the article. My high school English teacher is someone that like to give us rules. He told us that an essay should be 5 paragraphs. And the first paragraph you should write the intro for the essay and the last paragraph you should make a conclusion. Other paragraphs you should provide evidence to support your statement and the first sentence of the paragraph you should clear out what your point and view is. I wrote essay with those rules though out my high school years. I did not realized that how much did those structures restrict us until I read this article. Now I realized that there are no structures, no rules and no 100% not allow to use in writing. I'm really glad that I get a chance to read this and I will leave the wrong idea that our high school teacher give us behind. In this college writing class we will have more freedom and flexibility to write what we what to write. 

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I did't know that there will be such a big difference between high school college writing before reading the article. My high school English teacher is someone that like to give us rules. He told us that an essay should be 5 paragraphs. And the first paragraph you should write the intro for the essay and the last paragraph you should make a conclusion. Other paragraphs you should provide evidence to support your statement and the first sentence of the paragraph you should clear out what your point and view is. I wrote essay with those rules though out my high school years. I did not realized that how much did those structures restrict us until I read this article. Now I realized that there are no structures, no rules and no 100% not allow to use in writing. I'm really glad that I get a chance to read this and I will leave the wrong idea that our high school teacher give us behind. In this college writing class we will have more freedom and flexibility to write what we what to write. 

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Before reading "the high school / college writing classroom disconnect", I thought that the writing class in college was very similar to that in high school, full of rules, so I was very worried that I could not get good grades in such courses.

But after reading this article, I realized that the writing course in university is not full of rules. There are no more words, sentences and structures that can't be written. I can write a lot of content I want to write. In high school writing class, students put their own views on a matter into a universal framework. Many teachers even ask students to recite the template, so that they can quickly complete a composition in the exam.

After learning that the writing course in university is totally different, I am full of interest in this course, hoping to learn something to improve my writing level in this course.

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After reading the advice and the articles, I am realizing how flawed our high school writing courses were. Given that most of my english classes were labeled “college preparatory,” it seems like they were doing quite a poor job. Many of my teachers had told me that, in college, we were going to write papers similar to the ones we wrote in class. But now these seem like they can’t be any more different. The article almost perfectly described my high school writing experience. It was extremely strict and points were taken off the moment any rules were broken. Other than the teacher, nobody would even want to read the essays I wrote. They were structured so precisely that they showed no passion and, frankly, they were boring. Everyone who created our high school curriculum has a college education so I would expect them to do a better job simulating the college standards. It seems like most of these restrictions are removed in college writing. We finally get the opportunity to experiment with our writing styles by breaking these strict rules. If I enjoyed writing, I would be thrilled about this change. But instead, I just feel unprepared for what is ahead.

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The Transition from High School to College Writing

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The Transition from High School to College Writing

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Before reading John Warner’s article, “The High School/College Writing Classroom

Disconnect” I was genuinely worried about UWP 7 and my own preparedness for the class, especially after I head about all of the writing we’ll be doing. Fortunately, after reading and seeing that college writing encourages less formulaic writing and more situational writing, I am now looking forward to the class. I hope I can learn more about structuring, finding evidence and citing sources to create a clear paper. I like the idea of college writing more now and feel less anxious about it.

Getting into the issues of the writing process in high school, I think that what most people learn in high school is how to follow a writing structure and put their topic’s information into that writing structure. I remember during my junior year especially because we had essays on book themes every quarter, the form factor in my papers almost were always the same, and that wasn’t necessarily bad, but the writing prompt didn’t require me to really think all that much. In high school, my essay process of writing often consisted of knowing the material, looking for evidence, wording my findings in a way that really drives home my argument and also make me sound “smart”.

Anyhow, I look forward to learning and growing as a writer in this UWP 7.

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Based on the readings, there is a big gap between the transition from High school to college. The school doesn’t give students the necessary resources to succeed when they are pursuing a higher education. As the reading The High School/College Writing Classroom Disconnect says, “it is the fault of higher education which has done very little to communicate the purposes and processes of the college writing classroom to the larger world.” In post secondary schools, the students weren’t taught the great  importance of the writing guidelines, independence, and communication. Another example of this can be found on the advice that the past students gave us because they always told us to try to check canvas to stay on track and to seek help when needed. To conclude, we can see that going from high school to college is a big step because students have to be more responsible, resourceful and need to learn the kind of vocab used in college. 

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Based on the readings, there is a big gap between the transition from High school to college. The school doesn’t give students the necessary resources to succeed when they are pursuing a higher education. As the reading The High School/College Writing Classroom Disconnect says, “it is the fault of higher education which has done very little to communicate the purposes and processes of the college writing classroom to the larger world.” In post secondary schools, the students weren’t taught the great  importance of the writing guidelines, independence, and communication. Another example of this can be found on the advice that the past students gave us because they always told us to try to check canvas to stay on track and to seek help when needed. To conclude, we can see that going from high school to college is a big step because students have to be more responsible, resourceful and need to learn the kind of vocab used in college. 

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2) their perspectives can relate to my own experiences in college writing because I also feel kind of scared about the kind of writting that they use in college. In high school, I learned about some of the rules but not the importance of these rules and when to apply them. For this reason, when I write, I am kind of unsure about the format because we just briefly went over it. In addition, I can relate to when the past student tell us to check canvas because it is easy to lose track. In high school, the teachers always reminded us about the assignments that we had to do but in college it is more independent. Therefore, I am going to try to follow their advice and try to keep on track to do good in this class.

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When I registered for UWP I didn't fell prepared at all, but after I read the article “The High School/College Writing Classroom Disconnect” I was relieved. I thought I was the only one who had overly strict writing circumstances at their school. I remember one time my teacher gave me a D on an assignment because she said the writing wasn’t to her standards which was extremely discouraging. After reading the Padlet advice I felt in a sense welcomed to the writing community. A lot of the advice discussed seeking outside help for writing which is a huge difference between writing in high school and in college. In high school we had a program in which students seeking help could come on Saturdays, almost every class was available for help except any English classes. Another piece of advice given on Padlet was to connect with classmates which I found surprising. Writing in my eyes has always been a very independent activity but the student said this could help if we have questions or for general reassurance. Overall reading the article and the advice from Padlet I am beginning to feel that we’re all starting off in similar situations.

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After reading the former students’ advice, along with the article, I think there are two different perspectives. The article, “The High School/College Writing Classroom Disconnect”, by John Warner, explained how there is a big disconnect between what the college level expects and what the high school level teaches. I did not read all of the padlets, but I didn’t see anyone talking about how different the college level was than high school (at least a less advanced class like this one). Instead, most of them were explaining how the interface is different and that you need to remember to check canvas and whatnot. Perhaps the main point of the article was that there are some “rules” engraved in students’ minds which are not ideal at a college level. Personally, I was taught some of these rules, such as some words to avoid. However, I feel like during my last couple years of high school I didn’t have any rules or restrictions still lurking around in my brain. In my opinion, I think most of the “rules” Warner’s referring to are actually outgrown before college.

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I was honestly shocked but at the same time I wasn't really shocked. I remember I was talking to my friend about how the expectations for writing were way different in college a few years ago. I heavily agree with Warner that there is a disconnection between high school and college. College is a whole different set up and most of us has been used to writing a certain way for so many years, we don't even know how to write properly. In my writing experience, I was always told to not use certain words in a essay because it will "bore the reader" and my teachers would set these rules to border what to say. So when I joined this class I was severely scared that I wouldn't be able to get what is happening and be behind because I'm so used to writing one specific way. But I am so glad that I read the alumni's advice because it puts me with little ease of this class.

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Transitions: High School To College Writing

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After reading the article written by Warner, I'm surprised by Warner idea which is the huge disconnection between high school and college. In the beginning part of the article, Warner mentions that students tend to use "writing rules" to write formal articles. indeed, the use of "writing rules" may lead a student's writing shape, but it may prevent students to think creatively. for example, When I taking Toefl writing classes, the teacher teaches me some writing techniques in order to reach a high score on TOEFL writing. But in my perspective, the "rules" somehow limit my writing thoughts and creativity in writing. When I do the TOEFL writing, I may spend tons of time on writing the "structure" of the essay, rather than expressing on perspective. Another point that shocked me is when Warner uses "flesh" to substitute"skin". I realized that when we write formal writing, vivid and correct words will add more images to readers. after reading the transition high school to college I found out that college writing is more about creative thinking and students should get rid of the "structure or format" of the writing. right now, I feel more confident about the college writing and UWP7

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After reading Warner's article and a chart produced by a university in Canada. I agree with their idea that high school writing is different from college writing. According to my writing experience, I feel like they are describing my high school's writing class. For example, never contain "I", "you," or "we" in your essay, those make the article informal and subjective; to select fantastic words in the article; to follow the form of writing. Meanwhile, my intimidation for UWP007 was decreasing. Although high school writing and college writing is different,  college writing has fewer restrictions. Thus, college writing is more practice students' logical thinking, critical thinking, and using the appropriate word. The purpose of our college writing makes me nervous because without the form of writing i have no idea how to write. However, it glad to read "Advice from UWP7 Alums," I think we have the same feeling first time enter the college writing class. The article tells where I can get help and how i can improve my self in the course. Those advices are very valuable for me.

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I was quite shocked after reading Warner’s article because most of phenomenon that he describes in the reading happens in my high school writing class. Using words like is, are, and said is not allowed in my high school academic writing class. There was a list of words banned in our class. However, I feel a bit relieved when I know that there are less restrictions for us in college. But in this case, I realize that analytical words and logical thinking become more and more crucial in writing, which I believe I need to put more effort in it. After reading the advices from alums, I do get a plenty of useful informations. I really appreciate that I can have chances to get help in office hours and practice my writing skills. I noticed a lot of suggestions about operating different resources and maximizing the benefits of them, which is definitely true in the case of remote classes. Moreover, keep in touch with peers on the internet allows us to have multiple solutions when we are dealing with difficulties. All in all, this course is designed to improve ourself and keeps us on the right track, which makes me feel less stressed and more prepared for this course.

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After reading the article I am amazed by how accurately Warner describes the issue with the students learning how to write prior to college. I often heard from older siblings and older friends that writing in high school versus college are two totally different worlds. I have always worried about how that would affect my journey through college class.But reading the response of the past students show that it is a common worry for many students and that it is not as bad of a transition as it seems. Warner's article hit a lot of points that I have thought of throughout school and it is shocking to know that the “rules” and “Do’s and Don’ts” of writing is such a widespread phenomenon. it seems like the people creating the curriculum  would be aware of the ineffectiveness and switch things up. It could be that they worry introducing writing similarly to the way colleges do would be too much for younger students to become accustomed to. I do think though there will surely be a greater effort to integrate the college perspective of writing into primary and secondary school because I feel like it would ease that fear of writing in college.

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After reading the article and padlets by UWP alumnis, my immediate thought was agreeing with their stance on this topic. I felt relieved knowing that I don’t have to follow certain rules while structuring my essay. I was raised in an education system where we had to follow standard rules and formats. We didn’t have any freedom or choices, it was either that or that. High school is more about following strict direction and format to reach a good grade. College on the other hand allows students to write creatively while enhancing their writing ability at the same time. The article pointed out how in high school, teachers expect 5 paragraphs in a piece of writing. In this setting, we often find students writing only to reach the requirement. While in college, the structure loosen up. Writing is more enjoyable when we are not constricted. However, as the structures change, the expectation will increase. I am less stressed about this course after acknowledging the change. 

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After reading Warner’s article, I must agree that students in primary and secondary education need help to realize that university writing may have different (or less) expectations in mind. Writing is not as structured as it is taught to be. I experienced and empathized with the issues Warner mentioned on a personal and constructive level and I think many other students have as well. I realized this issue was prevalent but could not figure out a reason why. Warner’s article helped shed light on this topic and gave me hope that whatever obstacles I encounter are towards the right path. I want to dedicate my time to this course. I want to be able to write effectively, efficiently, and consistently. This makes me both enlightened and afraid of what is to come, but I think it is beneficial in the long run. I am on a journey to figure my style of writing and I think this course will be a godsend. After reading the responses from past UWP 7 students, I felt relieved to see that it is not as intimidating as it seems. It is nice to see other students talk about their experience on how they improved their writing. This course is about how to improve our writing to the way that we think it could be. I hope to find that light in the sky at some point this fall. 

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I found the readings very relieving, because I never felt like I fit into the high school English curriculum. I believe I described the constricting rules of high school english as a corset. I personally think the classes would have been much more enjoyable when students are given a set of goals to achieve in their writing, and it is the teacher's job to swoop in and help when there is a disconnect. After reading, it seems like university writing style follows this notion and expands the student minds to break free from the jail cell high school put our brains in. To reach absolute nirvana in high school, an essay should follow the strict guidelines. To incoming freshmen, being told they can style it how they see fit is a total mind blowing sentiment. The padlet posts from previous students really did lift weight off my shoulders, knowing that this course is here to ease our minds from the military style thinking of high school to the hippie and free college mindset ( if that makes any sense). It seems like knowing the audience you write towards is key- you can not read the word "sesquipedalian" to first graders and expect them to know what you mean. In all, I believe that this course is very beneficial to transition and mold the mind into more than one way of approaching writing, and AI believe this is essential.

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Immediately after reading through both  “The Highschool/College Writing Disconnect” article and the padlet posts left by previous students, it is both relieving and frustrating to know that the attitude that I’ve had to carry about my writing has to change. The most relieving thing to hear was to not take my writing so seriously and to instead focus on the improvement of the craft. The grading system of the class lifts a huge burden since in the past we’ve most often than not been made to write in order to receive a high letter grade. As touched on by the article, the way we have been made to write what we believe the teacher would deem as acceptable, was the basis of our “creative process”. I turn this would leave us scrambling to throw utilize diction with little to no purpose, instead of intentionally using words in order to provide the audience with an image.

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Transition: High school and college writing

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I think that the two texts provided informative information about the differences and transitions from high school to college writing. The articles suggested that high school teachers encouraged students to use the "five-paragraph essay" format. It is true that this format allows students to create a structure for their writing, but it limits their ability to be creative and thoughtful writers. Thus, when students enter college, they are not equipped with the skills that will help them in college writing. In the "Advice from UWP7 Alums", most of the students admit that they were a bit nervous or intimidated about entering a college writing class. Currently, I feel the same way because the writing that I completed in college was very structured and the teachers gave the students strict rules to follow in their writing. However, in the advice from the previous students, they state that they have improved as writers throughout the course. Based on my own experience with writing, I hope that this course will allow me to learn more about college writing and how to write effectively.

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In the essay ' High School/College Writing classroom Disconnet', I understand that we should choose words depending on different occasions or audiences.  To be more specific, we should not abandon some words just because the words are boring or do not express certain emotions. When I read the website that 'Advice from uwp7 Alums', I got lots of suggestions such as  creating a good relationship with one another and the teacher,  attending offices hours to get great advice, and downloading useful tools like canvas, email, google driver on phone because sometime you could finish homework without computers when computers are broken and need to be repaired.  From my perspectives, I think these advice are all useful. When I used to wrote academic writings, I always ask teachers to give me advice, which is really useful to improve my writing skills. Also, Building a good relationship with one another and professors are really essential because this cause a conducive environment. This special environment allows every students help each other and facing the problem together. 

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In the essay ' High School/College Writing classroom Disconnet', I understand that we should choose words depending on different occasions or audiences.  To be more specific, we should not abandon some words just because the words are boring or do not express certain emotions. When I read the website that 'Advice from uwp7 Alums', I got lots of suggestions such as  creating a good relationship with one another and the teacher,  attending offices hours to get great advice, and downloading useful tools like canvas, email, google driver on phone because sometime you could finish homework without computers when computers are broken and need to be repaired.  From my perspectives, I think these advice are all useful. When I used to wrote academic writings, I always ask teachers to give me advice, which is really useful to improve my writing skills. Also, Building a good relationship with one another and professors are really essential because this cause a conducive environment. This special environment allows every students help each other and facing the problem together. 

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Write ~150 word entry in this padlet that: 1) describes the perspectives about the transition from high school to college presented in two of these texts, 2) comments on how their perspectives about high school and college writing relate to your own experiences of academic writing.