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Farahani, you mean removing the brain spinal cord from the animal?

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So Kesavan, for that reason all brain and spinal cord must be removed from high risk cattle such as cattle that show any signs of neurological problems.

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If im not mistaken prion can be found in the nerves. Therefore muscle said to be contaminated because nerve that supply to muscle contain prion.
So i think that when we eat meat we will eat the nerves together that contain prion.

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Yes! The prions are found in the meat. Which is also the mode of transmission for BSE; consumption of prion-infected meat.

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So, if the animals are infected with BSE, does the meat get contaminated too?

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Ah I see! Thanks for the clarification Phoebe. Sorry it gets so confusing in here hehe. Yea, what about others' opinion?

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My reason for ruling out rabies is because it is transmitted through saliva. And since it is a virus in the nervous system, I don't think the meat is affected. Just a thought. Hehe. What do you guys think?

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Yes, I think we should still include more than one diagnosis to our problem as we are yet to receive our next trigger. Furthermore, I've learned from a lecturer that we should still include the other diagnoses despite the fact they only portray one of the clinical signs.

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Yes Farahani, maybe rabies doesn't cause the milk production to be reduced, but I think we should still include it in one of our findings, seems that it actually causes neurological symptoms.

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Zarith, from what I read, yes, rabies can cause aggression and some other neurological signs. However, I don't think that it can cause lowered milk production. What do you think

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Well, maybe now we can include rabies back into our discussion? Haha!

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Zarith, now you're making me think. I've gotten so lost and now I wonder why can't rabies actually be the reason to our problem?

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yup kesavan! to add more, there is some research stated that BSE can happen due to genetic mutation and was amplified by the feeding of contaminated meat-bone meal to cattle

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Ya I agree with u Ain because BSE is zoonotic disease and the only way it transmitted to human is by consuming meat

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from what I know, BSE can be transmitted if the animals is fed with meat and bone meal

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Guys, I have one question to ponder, even if we know that the virus can be killed by the heat, thus causing no harmful effects to human, do we need to exempt that rabies can be one of our differential diagnoses?

Or, is there any solid reason that rabies might not be one of our findings? Please enlighten me (:

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Hey Ain! Most of us agreed that this is a case of BSE. Do you wanna elaborate more on how it's transmitted? This could explain why Puan Rosmah had to discard all the meat she purchased.

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hellooo

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Yes i also agree with that because BSE (bovine spongiform encephalopathy) is a progressive neurological disorder of cattle that results from infection by an unusual transmissible agent called a prion

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Yes, I agree with Nadiah because if the aetiological agent of this disease is virus or bacteria, it would just be destroyed by the heat from the cooking.

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Prions would survive even after cooking, true, so I think its BSE in that case. Agreed

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I agree with Nadiah! This could be more of a case of BSE rather than rabies. BSE prions are more heat tolerant as compared to virus. Also, In cattle, I think BSE is more common than rabies infection.

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guys do we really discussing now because not everyone is here

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Yup Mary, if the causative agent is virus it might die in higher temperature.
So, for this case I think it associated with BSE.
BSE cause by prion that able to survive in high temperature.

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What do the rest of you think ?

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Based on my readings, pasteurized milk and properly cooked meat from infected animals poses no harm to humans.

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In that case, I don't think it would be relevant to discard the meat

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Yes phoebe, Same way through saliva.
It says due to the curious nature of the cows, they would go to inspect an animal that could be rabid and get infected in the process.

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Delna, how does rabies in cattle spread? If it's the same as rabies in dogs, it should be through contact with saliva right?

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So do we assume its Rabies or BSE ?
Or should we explore both possibilities?

But if it was rabies, would they still ask her to throw out the meat ?
BSE is starting to sound like a better diagnosis

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I'm thinking it could be BSE too. Since BSE causes aggression, neurological dysfunctions and even drop in milk production, which is what stated exactly by the Dr to Puan Rosmah.

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Based on my reading, it does, Phoebe.

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Zarith, that sounds about right. Does BSE also lead to lowered milk production?

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I looked up Rabies in Cattle, it said that in dairy cattle, rabies causes abrupt drop in milk production,

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Talking about aggression and other neurological signs, I'm thinking BSE

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The question is very vague. They only stated that Rosmah needs to discard all her meat.

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soooooo. Who actually did some research on the case?? XD

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180006

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Hye :)