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I agree with Marjoleine that your responsibility is dependant of how you were raised.

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I still owe you my answer to the second question: I agree with Vere that your level of responsibility can depend on the way you were raised. There are friends of mine who had an upbringing in which independency was encouraged and who are almost ready to start their own household at 17. However, I also have friends who can be very irresponsible at times. I  don't think this necessarily has anything to do with 'our generation', I think every generation has had both responsible and irresponsible teenagers.

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Yes, I think we all miss the social interaction. So that's why I would never change to all online classes. There should be social interaction in real life. I think that's really important for our education. Later, when we work, we should be able to work together with other people. So social interaction is really important in our society.

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Wouldn't we lose part of our social skills if we mainly took online classes?

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But don't you miss the social interaction that comes with going to a physical school?

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Jolan, I personally wouldn't prioritize life skills over other classes because it is more likely that you will eventually learn these life skills anyways than that you will eventually learn the content of the class that was never given. I do, however, understand your opinion as well and I like Vere's idea of offering these classes but not making them mandatory. Maybe you could even give students the option to choose which kind of classes they would rather take (e.g. art history or cooking)

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Yes, I agree. We are able to give online classes so why wouldn't we do it. Sometimes changes can be good. I think that the corona crisis showed us, that it is possible to give online classes.

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marjolein agree that we should not abolish these subjects and that basic knowledge is important. however, these are lessons where little interaction is needed between teacher and student. It is more the teacher who tells and explains and the student who listens and notes. Then I don't think it's a problem to give these lessons online?  I don't see these online lessons as some kind of educational handicap but maybe as an opportunity to modernize the education and adapt it to the times we live in. We are being taught in the same way we were taught 50 years ago when so much has changed.

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yes' I agree with Jolan.

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I agree that maybe we should get life skills lessons. But we could let the students chose if they want these lessons. Like if you want to do a cooking lesson, not everybody is on the same level. You have students that cook a lot at home and know how to do it. But you will also have students that can't even make an egg. So for those classes, I would let the students chose. Maybe like in the fifth year, where we had a subject we could choose, e.x. Spanish, that you could also choose cooking or other life skills lessons.

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Marjoleine, I don't think that those classes should be completely cancelled, but I just think that other life skills that aren't taught in high school should be prioritized

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I fully agree vere

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Yes, i think a variation of online classes and school classes would be a good idea, Arthur.

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And I agree with Arthur, the combination of the theory online and the practice in a classroom seems like a good idea

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I agree that we should combine online classes and actually go to school. Because like Arthur said, for some classes, it's no problem to just have online classes. But for language classes, math classes, science classes, etc I think it's better to have close contact with the teacher because in these classes you really must understand the subject.

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This combination of online lesson for theory and real lessons for more pratical things sounds like a good idea Arthur.

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I don't think we should drastically change our education system after COVID 19. When students follow classes from home, they are much more likely to get distracted or miss out on certain important classes. I also believe that social interaction with others teaches us things about living in a society that we could never learn from home.
Another aspect that I find positive about our educational system, is the wide variety of classes we are given. I must disagree with Jolan as I do not think classes such as art history to be irrelevant. By taking these classes, we broaden our general knowledge and I find it very important to have at least a basic understanding of different subjects in different fields, even if I wouldn't decide to pursue a career in that direction. After all, the point of a 'humaniora' is that every student becomes a 'homo universalis', and how would this be possible if you stop teaching subjects belonging to less common academic areas?

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I don't think we necessarily have more responsibility, I just think it's a different kind of responsibility that can't really be compared

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Vere, I agree with your opinion, I also think that these online lessons are a good example for next year. But it's not always easy to practise the subject on your own.

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Like Jolan said, I think that young adults have an other kind of responsibility's than older people. If you think about  the past generations, they didn’t have that much festivals or things like that, like we do have now. As far as I am concerned, you do have to be responsible if you’re going to such events. So in that way, young people are more responsible.

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Jolan I understand that it can be very distracting for some people not to be in the classroom where there is someone to check if you're paying attention, if you're not on your smartphone... But there comes a time when you have to cultivate discipline for yourself for the university, for example. So why not work a little more in secondary school to make sure that the youngsters can concentrate even if there are distractions. I think it would be good if there is a combination of online lessons and real lessons. Where in the online lesson some theory is taught and in the real lessons at school a little more practice. This way, lay people can still adjust where necessary, but we don't have to go   unnecessarily  to school every day for things we can study perfectly at home.

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But as far as education is concerned, I think it would be better to go back to school. I don't really think you can see this as a waste of time, you learn something from every subject. Not only the subjects are important, but also the social contact. If we only had online classes we would be less social and I think this is something important.

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Yes, I think now it's more your own responsibility to follow the classes and do the tasks.  Something that we, as seniors,  also have to do next year in college. We don't have tests anymore, we are just going to have to study for the exams, and it will be our own responsibility. So I think that now is good for us to learn to focus first on our tasks and lessons and after that to chill or do something fun.

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In that way you have a point.

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julie, I think it's difficult to say, because not all young people are the same. As a young person, you usually do stupid things that you will regret later on. I do think that young people are more relaxed in following the rules and that older people are more likely to respect the rules.

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I also have come to the same conclusion.

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I do agree with Arthur, that it is more convenient to have the classes at home because we don't lose time going to school.

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I have no doubt about the fact that it can be distracting to be at home to follow the lessons, but I think this is something personal. It works for some people very well and less for others.

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Second question. I think that really depends on how you're educated at home. Are your parents more strict or the opposite not strict at all, there is a huge difference. So I think not all young adults are equally responsible. Now in the corona crisis, you see that some of the young adults just meet with their friends like there is no virus that is killing a lot of people. While on the other hand, there are also a lot of young adults that just stay at home, like they're told to do. So I won't say that young adults are very irresponsible, it just depends.

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And I actually think a lot of  older people are being irresposible during the Coronavirus. I work in a gas station, and I see that young people often come in with masks, but old people usually don't wear them, they pay with cash and don't use the hand sanitizer "because it smells".

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I completely agree that it is much more convenient to get online classes as they are recorded, but I do find it more distracting to be in your own house. That's why I agree that they could be kept, but in a combination with physical lessons.

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Freya, I understand what you mean with the old people being more responsible in this Corona time, but what about before corona? Do you thing young adults were also less responsible then?

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1) I think it's a very good thing that in this corona crisis education has changed so much from physically going to school to taking lessons from behind your laptop. It is much more convenient for most students: you don't waste any more time going to school, the lessons are recorded so if you don't understand something so well you can just review it later etc. Especially for lessons where we don't really have to do exercises like history and geography in class, the online lessons are much more convenient. For classes like math where you have to do exercises and insight is more important I think it is better to go to the class physically. This way the teacher can help you better if you have problems with something. But I think it's something we should keep, maybe in a lighter form or in combination with really going to school.
2) I think young people do feel a little less responsible than older people. It's also because at the beginning of the crisis it was pretended to be a virus that is harmless to the youth. now we all know better and I also think that most young people have understood the message. Another cause may also be that the social life of young people is simply more out of their family than that of older people.

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So, first of all, I think we have a good school system and we don't have to change much after Corona. Our school system learns us how to study and prepares us for university. That's why I think we don't have to cancel some classes. I know most of the students who study economics or sciences won't study art history or religion. But those classes are there so we could learn from them and know more about the world. It's like Julie said, it's a part of our culture. We can't cancel those classes just because the majority of the students won't study them in college.  I don't see those classes as a waste of time, but more like a class where we learn more about our community and our history.

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1) I don't think it's wise to go back to the original education system now. There's a lot of people in a school, close together. That way the corona virus can spread faster.
Of course, the original system is much more convenient to understand and learn. After all, online lessons are more complicated. As students we have to process a lot of material ourselves and that doesn't always work out.
That's why I think the schools have to find another way so that the students are taught in a decent way, but that not everyone is close to each other.

2) I think this depends on person to person, some are more responsible than others.
You have young people lying in their beds every day and watching netflix, you have young people who meet up with friends, you have young people who study a lot and go outside, ....
I think in terms of the corona virus that the young people are less responsible, and meet more with friends than older people. Older people, for example, are more likely to wear a mouth mask or stick to the rules than younger people.

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I see what you mean and I must agree with you.

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I agree that culture is important, but I think we learn too many useless things in other classes too, which is just wasted time in my opinion. They could use the time that we spend learning these less usefull things for more important life skills that we don't learn about.

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If you think about our grand parents for example, al lot of them still lived with their own parents when they became 18, and they stayed there until they were married. But things have changed, and now most young adults are cohousing for their study and they don’t wait until marriage to leave their home.

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And about the second question, I see it that way too.  Young adults are in some way more responsible than the past generations but not completely.

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I agree with the fact that Art history, for example, is not really something that we'll use in our life, but it is useful for our cultur, which in my opinion is important.

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Yes, I agree that some of the elements of our education system work really well, but there are also a lot of things that could use some changes.

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But on the other hand,  I think that some of the elements about our education system are pretty effective in some way. Like the tests for example.

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The fact that we have to study a lot on our own is a good exercise to become more independent, which is practical for the years that are coming.

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I also think that the education system shouldn’t go 100% back to the way it was before Corona.

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1) I think that we should change our education system after Corona, as I think this new system proves that some classes are less usefull than others for certain types of educations. I think that there's a lot of potential for a better education system that teaches the students the important things which are needed to go to university, get a job,... (as an example: Art History is not something that the typical economics student will use in their life.)                                        2) I think young adults have a different kind of responsibility than past generations. In the past they had pretty basic responsibilities. Now on the other hands, young adults have to be responsible with their computers, phones,... I think we have more responsibilities in a technological way.

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Discuss the following questions:
1)  Should we change our education system after Corona or go back to the way it was?
2) Are young adults more irresponsible than past generations?