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Religious discrimination is much less in France than UK so isn't their policy working. UK faces discrimination and their policy is not helping the people since it hasn't reduced the discrimination. Whereas France with their policy is gradually working towards extremely less discrimination

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If the UK is so accepting of all the religions why have there been so many instances of discrimination (you say there is less discrimination but it is quite prevalent). In comparison to France there is much more religious conflict which could (no matter how much you deny it) lead to a religious war. What do u have to say for that.

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In September 2013, Home Office Minister Jeremy Browne called for a "national debate" about Islamic veils in public places, such as schools.

In 2014 UKIP came first in the European elections in Britain, winning 24 seats in Brussels. Former UKIP leader Nigel Farage has said that full veils are a symbol of an "increasingly divided Britain", that they "oppress" women, and are a potential security threat.

Some 57% of the British public support a burka ban in the UK, a YouGov poll in August 2016 found.
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In the UK, people are allowed to wear what they want in public places and because of that, a few people are refusing to provide medical services, petitions against hijabs are signed etc. Then what is the issue with France's policy to have the right to follow a religion but not show it in public services and avoid all kinds of discrimination?

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under article 9 of the human rights act of 1998 the government has made it legal to wear all religious clothing and signs in public places and not being allowed to wear religious clothing in workplaces is considered a breach of article 9 however if this is taken up legally to the courts and the employer is able to justify why the ban was implemented the court may decide to let it pass. reasons such as "it gives the company a better image" etc are usually not passed but when reasons such as it is hampering with the services provided by people/employees wearing hijabs or burqas or is causing an inconvenience when it comes to medical practices the ban may be passed as it is whats in the best interest of the public and medical patients.

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under article 9 of the human rights act of 1998 the government has made it legal to wear all religious clothing and signs in public places and not being allowed to wear religious clothing in workplaces is considered a breach of article 9 however if this is taken up legally to the courts and the employer is able to justify why the ban was implemented the court may decide to let it pass. reasons such as "it gives the company a better image" etc are usually not passed but when reasons such as it is hampering with the services provided by people/employees wearing hijabs or burqas or is causing an inconvenience when it comes to medical practices the ban may be passed as it is whats in the best interest of the public and medical patients.

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Question- There is no ban on Islamic dress in the UK, but schools are allowed to decide their own dress code after a 2007 directive which followed several high-profile court cases. so such bans are allowed by the government so equality...not so much?

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Question- There is no ban on Islamic dress in the UK, but schools are allowed to decide their own dress code after a 2007 directive which followed several high-profile court cases. so such bans are allowed by the government so equality...not so much?

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it MADE people uncomfortable because of the tube incident- ONLY SOME PEOPLE didnt feel safe around Muslims AT THAT TIME- THIS IS NOT IN THE PRESENT!

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it MADE people uncomfortable because of the tube incident- ONLY SOME PEOPLE didnt feel safe around Muslims AT THAT TIME- THIS IS NOT IN THE PRESENT!

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However, there clearly will be circumstances in which covering the face will be inappropriate, and institutions such as hospitals, schools, courts and the border force, as well as employers, should be free to set their own policies accordingly. There needs to be a common-sense balance between cultural practices and the limits imposed by other legitimate interests.

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when u say UK allows u to wear what you want in public too, dont you think that wearing these symbols is what is causing so much religious discrimination. In france however there is much less religious discrimination since they dont wear these symbols. In conclusion, not wearing symbols would reduce the discrimination which is what UK is trying to achieve. In that aspect isnt it better to not allow religious signs in public

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What is the point of having these policies and UK "preaching equality as a whole" when a lot of people are not okay with it?

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In 2018, the UK ranked 15th in the world with the most gender gap.

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In 2016, there was a petition signed to ban burkhas.

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saying that all people are treated equally but in practice there is still islamophobia and therefore equality isnt really present

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equality isnt freedom of expression it is seeing all citizens equally and giving them equal rights

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equality isnt freedom of expression it is seeing all citizens equally and giving them equal rights

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equality isnt free expression it is seeing all citizens or people equally and treating them equally

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equality isnt free expression it is seeing all citizens or people equally and treating them equally

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UK and France have a good relationship with another despite political differences.

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yuti said that the man also gets punished "by a fine or something" but what happens to a woman is way worse, she gets whipped, she gets hit with rocs, and she gets imprisoned.

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It is not a compulsion for men to wear their religious gear to show they're modest but for women, why is it that in order to show that they're modest they have to wear a hijab?

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Why do women need protection around other males and how exactly are they getting "protected" by wearing a hijab?

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its the husband or father choice if the woman wears a hijab

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It is not a compulsion to wear any sort of muslim traditional clothing, they are just required to dress modestly and respectfully.

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Women rights, are not as limited as they were before. Women have access and the liberty to do many things without the permission of a dominant male.

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Saudi women, have access to good quality education. This is not restricting rights in the way some perceive islam to be.

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women visiting saudi are not needed to wear hijabs or abayas but are still advised to dress modestly, cover shoulders and knees in public places.

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women visiting saudi are not needed to wear hijabs or abayas but are still advised to dress modestly, cover shoulders and knees in public places.

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Team 1 had mentioned the term equality but the people in France are not getting equal rights because as they are forced to not show religious symbols in public places. Equality would be something like where everybody gets to choose what to wear and where to wear it. So they all are getting equal rights because they all get to represent their religious symbols and they are not forced to not where them. But in France thats not the case because they are being forced not to wear it so that is not "equality".

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forced to follow islam traditions and cultures

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forced to follow islam traditions and cultures

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people of religions forced to follow islam...why?

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people of religions forced to follow islam...why?

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"IF YOU CAN CHANGE A COUNTRY'S NAME, WHY CAN'T YOU CHANGE ITS LAWS?"

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"IF YOU CAN CHANGE A COUNTRY'S NAME, WHY CAN'T YOU CHANGE ITS LAWS?"

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This was a comment made by one of the team members. If our went as Bharat, Hindustan or India that does not mean there will be any compromise made in regards to the rights of the people!

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Mentioned the policies placed on religion in France. They explain that wearing a hijab or other forms of cultural expression are not discriminating. However, many and so  do I disagree with their laws and views.

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women forced to protect themselves as men cant control themselves therefore the strict dress code

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women forced to protect themselves as men cant control themselves therefore the strict dress code

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For all the questions asked, we didn't get even ONE concrete answer with evidence.

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For all the questions asked, we didn't get even ONE concrete answer with evidence.

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KINDLY ANSWER IT NOW :)

1. Given Islam being the fastest growing religion in France, can you justify how wearing a specific type of clothing is ‘discriminating?’ So can you clarify the disc tina took part because from what we have gathered of this presentation, you are talking about the religion being a threat and that’s NOT EQUAL. Equality INCLUDED respecting people’s choices, not taking the right to make them away. Especially for 3rd generation immigrants, as the government is taking their religious freedom away.

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i actually searched on bbc about the veil being banned, and nothing came up it said "Sorry, there are no results for britian restricting the veil.

Suggestions

Make sure that all words are spelled correctly.

Try different keywords.

Try more general keywords."

so could you please provide your source about this because im not  sure if you got this information or your making it up.

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hijabs are also worn for medical purposes

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hijabs are worn by women when they are in the presence of men other than their husbands

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hijabs are worn by women when they are in the presence of men other than their husbands

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Anaya, it is politically incorrect to use ANY religion with the word threat. It was racist and disrespectful.
It was fairly obvious you were referring to Islam.
Let me tell you some politically CORRECT, FACTUAL INFORMATION.
1. In NO religion in the world, is it stated that violence and "threatening" actions are permitted or even supported.
2. When it comes to TERRORISM and Islam, to some close minded people, those 2 terms go hand in hand. However, that IS NOT THE CASE
3. Calling a religion "threatening" means that you are either against it, or just too narrow minded.
4. Being extreme believers, in a religion IS NOT THREATENING! IT IS NOT ANY FORM OF VIOLENCE OR CRIMINAL ACT.
5. There is a difference between terrorism and extreme believers.
6. Every religions preaches one common thing; LOVE.

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im not asking for the name of the website im asking for the URL so i can know what you are talking about

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Forced to wear religious symbols

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Wearing a veil should be one's choice and not a compulsion

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France is an indivisible, secular, democratic and social Republic, guaranteeing that all citizens regardless of their origin, race or religion are treated as equals before the law and respecting all religious beliefs.
- Constitution of 1958

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#female oppression #secularfrance
#equalrights

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the assault or 🤬 of a woman is the woman's fault

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Hijab is showing that you are part of a particular community or religion

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all religious things are banned not only the veil