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Know its right to obey and submit to him bcos we love him and vice versa and he has a plan to us
Other ppl are more capable/better than us

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Yes. We know we shd but again quite dependant on the person who's the authority. If the person has alot of moral and char issues we feel that we shdnt submit to authority and have no reason to obey the authority.

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too many other distractions/commitments, too comfortable

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too many other distractions/commitments, too comfortable

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It is what God desires. God is God.

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M: I obey because it says in the word "if you love me you will obey my commandments" or something like that. I disobey out of pride perhaps; i.e because I think I know better

C: I obey because I know that God delights in my joyful submission

I disobey because I think I know the best.

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- fear
- bring too comfortable
- being too focused on how we are lacking but not focused on how the Lord may provide for us or how He shows us the way

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We dont understand god enough

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Sometimes we don't even know we are disobeying and have justified internally our own actions without checking/ reflecting on how it may not align with God. Hidden bitterness, anger and gratification of own rights.

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- God wants the best for us.
- I don't know what's the best for me.
- Consequences of not obeying may be dire
- Past experience has proven that obeying God is more beneficial to me, and vice versa

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Yes, cuz to obey is like giving away some kind of personal freedom. I obey the law, i wear mask etc. And for some people, freedom is everything today.

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Yes. It is like giving up our desire or own thoughts and submit to others.

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yes, it feels harder to simply obey in society today. whether in education or workplace, we are encouraged to be critical, to have our personal views in order to stand out, to challenge constructively. but i also think all these can be done with obedience as well.

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Yes, it indicates a loss of autonomy which is highly valued in today's world.

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M: Contentious in the sense that the image of obedience that we think of is submission to authority, regardless of the legitimacy of the authority

C: I think it is an overused word in our Christian community. It is quite "christianese" and we are somehow expected to know what obedience really means. With regards to it being contentious - i don't really think that Christians will find it contentious. Just a concept that we are already very used to. Mushi's sermon was good at elaborating the concept of obedience.

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Yes, world view on individualism, rights, daring to be different has been perpetuated and proliferated freely and widely being taken to and accepted