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Origins of rap started with a NY senator, well that's surprising indeed but I kind of expected more from the history of rap as that genre is so legendary

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The history of hip-hop is very interesting. I didn't know music genres had such interesting beginnings, I always thought music just started by someone playing it first not actually affecting real world events

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The whole dispute between hip-hop and rap has been going on for ages. I remember when my Father would explain the difference to me when I was much younger. Many rappers had beef with each other by calling each other hip-hop artists as an insult. So it's very interesting to get an affirmative answer on what the difference is between the two genres.

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Not a lot of people know the full details of what happened and most of the time it's just rumors and gossip. Despite that, the culture from that time has been displayed greatly throughout my generation as an "echo" of the gangsta motif has stayed with both white and black communities.

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It's interesting to have an in depth analysis of the whole "Rap Wars", especially when it was before my generation's time. Every time I hear about the rap wars it's always opinionated and I feel like it's blown out of proportion (even though it was pretty big and people died)

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I find that these artists (primarily Kendrick Lamar and Childush Gambino) have made music that examines the present while communicating through mediums influenced by the past but I do get the sense that the music is still meant very much to reflect the reality with which many people continue to find themselves facing today.

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I understood that there was a distinction between the terms prior to reading this background information but I appreciate the clarity and simplicity with which it is explained here (Hip Hop as a lifestyle and rapping as one of multiple forms of expression within that lifestyle).

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Why is it that hip-hop holds such a wide a growing appeal to so manny different kinds of people around the world? What is it about hip hop that distinguishes it from other genres that have “came and went” within the mainstream. I think alot  of hip hops stay comes from the culture of its fans (the nature in which people share and appreciate music) and the encouragement surrounding collaborations of big and/or rising artists.

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I am curious to know why the late 80s marked a significant shift towards drawing a focus to the politically charged nature of west coast artists. Did these artists pick up on the foundational elements in hip hop through live shows and radio play? Was there a distinction of sociopolitical climate in the West vs East to mark this change?

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I find it interesting to think about the roots of Hip Hop really originating in the “MCing” aspect of a unifying event since I so often think of the final product studio album in a modern sense. In someways I prefer the album format because I think it gives the artists more to work with (if they have acertain  message or creative idea they wish to express) and it can often feel more personal.

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What caused the big change in the 80s? is it related to the audience that hip hop was opened up to? Does this relate to "the white gaze" ?

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I think it's interesting that hip hop developed differently in the east and the west. It makes sense because hip hop is deeply rooted in culture, and there are significant cultural differences between the two, so hip hop is bound to be drastically different.

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When I researched hip hop for tenacity I did read about the female hip hop groups that developed during this time, and I want to know more about why women were less popular or successful in the industry.

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I researched environmental racism for the black history month forum, and I didn't learn about this event in the 1950s.  This shows that hip hop has been reflective of many different modes of racism.

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I am wondering if current hip hop artists would agree that understanding the historical context is essential to understanding the current art. I have always perceived hip hop as something that is made to be relatable and if someone can relate with it, regardless of anything else, I feel like they would understand it.

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I know about Budden from another rapper referencing him in a song, which i think says a part of what rap is about; bringing up your community with you in your search for success, and recognizing and representing the people who came before you and made the stage for you to perform on

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I didn’t know about any of these events, they provide a lot of context to the rise of hip hop and rap cultures

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I think some of the best rappers nowadays are ones whose style is like the ones listed here, going beyond riding trends but instead finding a vibe that goes more abstract and closer to the root ideas of rap

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Never knew female crews were really popular

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I remember the progression of hip hop in the early 2000s; some of my favorite music is still from that era

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Rahim W 3

I wonder how these artist woulda done with streaming

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This can relate to today because many people have a voice that want to be heard but no one wants to hear them.

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I was familiar with the east coast vs west coast war but I didn’t know the details of sides or events that happened during. Rivalries are important much of the time in rap so one can really know the context behind certain lines. Knowing the scene will help the understanding of the song, especially in the older rap songs.

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East and West coast style rap was different but both portrayed the same kind of message.

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This connects to how hip hop has changed now meaning there is a big difference from how it was back then.

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Hip hop has always stayed on top of controversial economic topics

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You can only fully understand hip hop through social context. You can judge by what you see today.

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We are able to understand the different roles that play into their style of hip hop. And we can compare it to past years.

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I knew that hip hop and rap have a big influence television, movies, language, etc. I also know how influential Dr. Dre, Kanye West, and Jay-Z were during the years of 2001-2006 considering the fact that they made most of their songs about social issues at the time. I didn’t know that Jay-Z broke Elvis Presley’s record for most number one albums on the Billboad magazine charts.

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The hip hop culture is very impactful and won’t be understood by someone who doesn’t know the history and context of the passion in the music

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I like Kanye West, and he has definitely made an impact on many people including myself. American marketing has monetized this industry heavily.

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Ishaan 11

These are throwbacks because they have hip hop influence in them

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I learned that hip hop consisted of any different characteristics.

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These rappers have spoken out in a way that will make a largely misunderstood group of people (mainly minors). They spoke out on topics that most influencers are afraid to speak on

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I don’t know anything about the Mercedes ladies, the funky 4, and the grandmaster and the furious 5. This connects to the beginning of rap and hip hop.

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Hip hop has thought me how to be a black man in america, rappers often encounter the most hate because they are black and proud and the difference in our culture vs other cultures

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Never knew that the East Coast vs West Coast thing was real. Always heard about it but never looked into it.

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Never knew that Dr. Dre produced 50 Cent.

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Ishaan 3

I didn’t know that hip hop was a cultural movement i thought it was just a genre of music.

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Why are Kendrick, Childish Gambino, and Chance a “movement towards the past”?

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I didn’t know there were so many microgenres  of hip hop. I’d be curious to know why they each emerged and from where. Are they from different regions, different facets of a community?

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I feel like nowadays pop (music) culture is appropriating more and more of hip hop culture, especially white pop culture. A good example is Ariana Grande, who has been called a “culture vulture” for her music, excessive tanning, and use of AAVE. I wonder if in the future pop music will peel away again from true hip hop, and hip hop will go back to being mostly a fixture of African American culture.

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Styles and messages of raps have evolved. They used tobe  strongly political and cultural and it still is, but nowadays most rappers include raps with sexual meaning to intensify the audiences interests. Strong messages are still found today,  but our younger viewers are more interested in lyrics that “pop”more in a sense.

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Ishaan 4

I knew that the Bronx was a crime hub in the 1970s, but I didn’t know how bad it really was. There was a loss of 600,000 jobs which is pretty nuts. There was also environmental violence

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Where is lil Wayne and other rappers that are more import.

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Rahim W 2

NWA is a great piece that is awkward brought up but never told right

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Rahim W.

I learned how dj’s were forming and how dj kool herc started

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I didn’t know about the Los Angeles riots in 1992, but I kind of remember hearing about Rodney King. I think this connects to what is happening today with the amount of police brutality. This connects to how artists today use their work to promote awareness about police brutality. Along with the marches and protest that people are doing as a result of all the violence.

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If someone doesn’t know the history and  significance of our hip pop culture then they won’t understand the weight it holds in the culture of blacks

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Ishaan 9

I didn’t know that militant and Afro-centric hip hop was fully thriving in 1990s. I learned that there was a rivalry between the east and the west coast (influenced by Dr Dre, 2 pac, etc.)

This reminds me of the artists we have studied in class.

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The show “The Get Down” was about the DJing/party atmosphere/birth of hip hop, and I knew a little bit about that from watching some of the show.

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Never knew this much about old rapping; didn’t know that they hosted parties in warehouses and such.

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DJ kool plays a good song I like to listen too, let me clear my throat was played at many parties.

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I was surprised that there were 30,000 fires only in south Bronx during the years of 1973-1977. I also didn’t know about Daniel Patrick Moynihan and what he said about race.

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Ishaan 8

I knew that Hip hip was originally a party genre, but I didn’t know that it’s purpose was to talk about what people were doing. This is important because the genre unified people and created new fashion and art trends.

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I knew that powder cocaine and crack cocaine were racially biased. We learned this in class

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Because some people think there not diffrent

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Never knew that riots grew across Los Angeles, always thought the place was level.

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I wasn’t aware that hip hop was defined as a cultural movement and rap was only a facet of it

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I knew that hip hop originated from the Bronx and that it’s based on struggles in the community. I didn’t know about the Burning of the Bronx.

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Ishaan 7

I didn’t know anything about the Los angeles 1992 riots prior to reading this. I learned that people rioted over a 6 day period because of the verdict of Rodney King. I wonder what the verdict was to make LA riot for 6 days. It doesn’t say on the slide.

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I know the song he made (Let Me Clear My Throat). I didn’t know Dj Kool Herc was the first Dj to use two turn tables in the Bronx (the Merry Go Round technique).

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I knew that hip hop and rap are different. I learned the deeper difference between the 2.
I'm surprised that rap still wasn't considered a branch of hip hop.

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Origins of hiphop

I didn’t know that there was that much white gang activity

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I already knew about gang activity in the Bronx. But I didn’t know about the other topics on the slide

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I already knew that graffiti and dance moves were in the early stages of this hip hop culture coming to life. I learned the Mercedes ladies are the most tangible legacy of hip hop. This is important because early hip hop culture influences our present day hip hop art and careers. Dancing and clothing have evolved as you see in Quavo , Migos and even Cardi B. I was surprised at how mellow hip hop culture used to be as compared to additions today like rapping styles.