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Do you think it is okay and not wrong too lie in different situations, like a white lie?

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Was absent Monday

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In response to max's question, i believe that trust levels will vary from person to person. The level of trust has many factors that play into how a person perceives you. Say you have met a person for the very first time, You will not trust them until time has been spent with the person to prove they are trustworthy. Also, it depends on the person who is determining to trust. They may be more open, but some may be more conserved. " Here I knocked off the neck of a bottle that I drew from a long row of its
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“Drink,” I said, presenting him the wine. He raised it to his lips with a leer. He paused and nodded to me familiarly, while his bells jingled.
“I drink,” he said, “to the buried that repose around us.” ". Fortunato is the type of person to trust easily as shown in the story. Montresor was able to get him drunk.

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@Tyler Yes I do feel that offending someone's family is a lot worse back then, then it is today. Back then people could have shootouts and 🤬 each other while the police would have no idea what is going on, but today, every person with a phone could just call the police and they would be there in about two minutes.

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@Stratton I feel that they should not use a death penalty. In both stories they show that a death penalty would be to easy and forcing someone to live there entire life out in prison is a lot worse than just ending it really quickly.

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@Billy, If I had to write a summary I would probably use the word revenge more because the story A Poison Tree is mainly about lying and betraying each other. Then revenge would be used more to describe how they felt about what they did.

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@max I don't believe that you should worry about how LONG you should wait to fully trust someone, it is more of whether or not they have done enough good deeds in your eyes to earn your trust.

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@billy I would use revenge more when describing A Poison Tree because it is all basically about lies/deception. Because of all the Anger felt in the text, there is a lot of revenge that comes with that.

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Responding to Knox's question, I think that revenge isn't necessary for everything, but it depends on the situation.

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@Max i think montresar meant that he moves on even if something is is wrong in his life

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To answer Jennifer's question, it is in no way necessary to seek revenge. One chooses to blame others and keep it bottled to "get them back." In reality, if you are seeking revenge, that's a you problem.

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response to knox- Revenge is only sometimes needed. I believe revenge happens as a way to allow people to feel satisfied with less anger. "The noise lasted for several minutes, during which, that I might hearken to it with the more satisfaction" (the cask of amontillado) This proves some satisfaction however revenge should never be take to this extreme level.

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What do you think Montresor meant when he said, "A million candles have burned themselves out. Still I read on."?

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@billy if i were to summarize Cask of amatadillo

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I believe that revenge should be used to a person who affects everyone and would not stop sice punishment could be the only way of stoping such a person

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Responding to Max, I think that it takes about 10 encounters for somebody to gain full trust of someone

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@Josie I find more justice in revenge personally, because I feel that if someone has the audacity to do something bad to me, they should feel it happening to themselves.

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@billy i would use revenge more because when he hung him up in chains, that is considered revenge.

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@miranda I agree on to her response to alex, revenge is definitly easier because no one wants to asmit they are wrong

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Answer to Knox, revenge is necessary sometimes in situations where you were harmed. For example, revenge was taken on 9/11. Revenge was taken in this situation in the Cask which was necessary, "The thousand injuries of Fortunato I had borne as I best could; but when
he ventured upon insult, I vowed revenge."

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@Knox I think it is sometimes warranted

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@Rohan No, I think the truth is what actually happened. The truth cannot be altered or changed, it simply is "The Truth." Theologies and world views can change, but the truth of what happened will not change.

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Do you think that revenge is warranted/necessary sometimes, always , or never?

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@rohan I do not believe that the definition of truth depends on the time or circumstance, but people tend to twist the truth depending on what is convenient to them at the time.

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If you were to write a summary about one of the short stories would you use the word revenge or truth more.

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To answer Rohan, the definition of truth is unchanging what "truth" means is concrete; it is a fact or belief accepted as true. What is considered to be true is relative, however, as what people believe to be true can differ.

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@Jennifer I believe that Revenge is absolutely not necessary because if revenge was necessary then there would be so many wars between countries.

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I disagree with @Miranda about the fact that revenge is easier than forgiveness because in forgiveness, you just have to say that you forgive them and move on.

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@Rohan the definition of truth definitely changes at different times because it can decide friendships, and sometimes life or death situations

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venn

https://docs.google.com/document/d/15xSydk6UJXTIt97eAKSGNro-AeOhkiu32J81R5h1hZw/edit?usp=sharing

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in response to omeed's question , taking revenge on someone will change you as a person especially when you commit a 🤬. It makes it easier to commit revenge in the future.

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To answer Alex's question I think it would emotionally be easier to get revenge on someone at the beginning because you don't want to forgive the person that hurt you. It is also hard trying to stop getting angry at the beginning as well. This is what happened in The Poison Apple. The narrator tried to stop his anger but it just made it worse and it was hard trying to forgive and forget so the narrator's anger just grew.

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Also @Alex Inboth "The Cask of Amontillado" and "The Poison Tree", both speakers enacted revenge, just in different forms. Thus, I think it's easier to get revenge than it is to forgive.

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Responding to Omeed, I think that by getting revenge on someone, people won’t change and will also not learn how to deal with these kind of situations or people who anger them and when ever these people are faced with other situations or people who anger them they will just want revenge again and will not learn to forgive them. In the Cask of Amontillado, Montresor got revenge on Fortunato for insulting and pestering him and I believe if Montresor was faced with another person who insulted him and made him mad he would want revenge instead of forgiving them.

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Responding to @Adam, i do think that’s the severity of the revenge depends on the thing the person didn’t to you, im not gonna do way harmful thing so to u, if u say you broke my pencil or something minor like that, the revenge depends on the crime against the person

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Copy of Cask of Amontillado Venn Diagram--Truth

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@Miranda i think most people just say they want revenge but wont do anything to get that

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@Rohan I think that the truth changes depending on the situation. In the Cask of Amontillado, Monestor thought that the truth was first to trap Fortunato and now he thinks it is to make Fortunato suffer

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@omeed I think that it will not change the way you start dealing with something because there could be different situations.

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Responding to Omeed's question, I think that getting revenge on someone will change your self and the way you will deal with problems in the future because once you have done something like that, you will start to constantly repeat your ways.

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@Josie In my personal opinion, I get more justice in revenge than forgiveness because I feel like they got more of what they deserved.

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@Rohan i do think truth has many definitions depending on different situations because it could be as bad as admitting to a crime or just being honest to a friend

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@Rohan I think the definition of truth does change depending on the situation because when it comes to someone you care about, you may not want to tell the truth to spare their feelings.

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To respond to Dylan's question revenge is a better response over forgiveness when it has hurt you or your loved ones for a long time. I believe that in this case revenge is better than forgiveness because the thing that happened probably scared you or your loved ones for life and you can't do anything anymore. This is why I think in the text The Cask of Amontillado I think that Montresor shouldn't have gotten revenge on Fortunato because on how petty the reason was.

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What do you guys think the image after "The Poison Tree" represented?

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Do you think that by getting revenge on someone, you change yourself and the way you will deal with those kind of situations in the future?

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Would you say the definition of truth changes at different times or in different situations?

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@Josie I think that there is more justice in revenge since justice is making someone who did wrong face the punishment. Forgiveness lets someone get off with no consequences.

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@Alex I think it is easier for people to get revenge instead of forgiving someone because of pride. For example, in The Cask of Amatillado Montresor kills Fortunato for revenge instead of just moving on with his life.

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By getting revenge on someone, do you think you warp or change your personality and mindset for the worse?

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Do you believe revenge is necessary if someone did you wrong or angry?

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How long do you think it takes for a person to gain complete trust in someone?

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@Josie I think I would find more justice in revenge because that way you know that the other person has payed the consequences and suffered.

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In your personal opinion, what do you find more justice in, forgiveness or revenge?

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To answer Erminas question about if its good to get revenge, I believe that some people can't help it. Peoples visions can be clouded by hate, love, and so many other things that they are unaware of what could come out of their actions. Revenge is something that at could be considered healthy in some respects. However, the consequences could be severe.

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Do you believe that you have to get revenge on someone to feel better and forget about it, or do you think that revenge is not the way to go and that people deserve forgiveness?

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@Alex I think it's dependent on personality type, but ultimately, I think it's more difficult to forgive someone than to get revenge. Truly forgiving someone takes grace and an open mind. Also, little acts of revenge are easier to do- gossiping about the person, ignoring them, trying to turn people against them, etc. Many small modern-day acts of revenge are simple to complete, but true forgiveness takes serious thought.

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Responding to Miranda i think it is easier to think about it.

@ Dylan I think revenge is better than forgiveness

@Brittan, I think that it was not justified

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@Ermina I think that revenge can be a good outlet for emotions, but it is healthier to try to forgive someone so you don't live with guilt, etc.

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What is the line you would cross for forgiveness or revenge?

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What does truth mean to you?

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Responding to Alex, i think its easier to get revenge on someone rather then forgiving them because in the moment when your really angry at someone most people including myself would want revenge on that person rather then forgiving them.

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@Alex I think it's easier for certain people to get revenge because in "The Cask of Amontillado," Montresor simply killed Fortunato rather than swallowing his pride and asking for an apology

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Answer to Ermina, the apple represents anger.

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@Dylan revenge is better in response to forgivness during a time of terror or during a period of time when forgivness isn't an option.

During 9/11 people were not looking to give forgivness, but revenge towards the terrorists and the acts they committed.

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in response to Coln's question, I believe truth is one of the priorities in lives of relationships. Truth means trust. To form a strong relationship you need and want to be able to rely on someone when you need them. With out truth, you cannot have trust.

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What do you guys think the apple in "The Poison Tree" refers to?

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To respond to Stratons question, I believe that the death penalty should be in place not for the soul purpose of justice. Depending on what you define as justice in this instance. The penalty should be in place to give what some criminals deserve.

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Do you think that it's easier to get revenge on someone or to forgive them?

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Is it a priority to have truth in our lives/relationships?

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@Coln I think truth is a major component of relationships. In "The Poison Tree", the author supresses the truth (the truth of his hate), and he ends up killing his enemy. In relationships, if you hide the truth or don't prioritize it, then the lies or hate will build up and tear the relationship apart.

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Do you guys think it's good to get revenge on people?

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In response to Coln I believe its important to have truth in relationships but not in life because being honest all the time can get you in trouble, but in relationships they are based on truth and not cheating

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In response to jack's question I believe revenge would be full if the avenger would not get punished because you fill a hole and you escape with out trouble. A good example of this situation is cask of amatidillo when Montreso got revenge and escaped with no punishment.