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That's a valid point

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Yeah but they are noticed more than people saarth -Avery

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Yes, millions die everyday.-Surya I

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Leslie do you have anything to say-Akhil

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If the same chemicals are released, then why do people like baby animals more? -Avery

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-Avery

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To add on, I believe that having compassion for anything/anyone in general can apply to humans. -emily

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and if that one popular animal died, all its followers would be sad, but people die everyday, and not everyone cares

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Going back to what Emily said we could change the way we feel and maybe become less selfish.-Simran

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In Article #1, the Dzanga Sangha forest attract people who want to help the wildlife. This can increase attention for the area. When people become more attentive to that area, they might notice the locals suffering from malaria and help them also.

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I am pretty sure that "cool" animals die everyday and people don't even notice. - Saarth

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Yes the same chemicals are released vrinda-Akihl

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Madison said something about how people might want to help animals that are more popular for example if they are on instagram and people would think they are more important than some random stranger that isn't well known -Avery

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I agree with Saarth. Are the same chemicals released when you see a baby? Vrinda

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Humans breed animals so much that some end up with birth defects. They're often dumped or abandoned when this happens. If animal lovers only like animals because they're cute, than why are there rescue services today such as Hope for Paws there to rescue animals with deformed or abused bodies?

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Are the chemicals released by your brain released in times other than seeing a pet? - Saarth

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Yes, I think so, because animals like the raccoon wouldn't be a usual pet to have, so even if it isn't cute, people follow it on social media because it is unusual. -Alekhya

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Saarth is correct because when we try to save a type of animal we end up ruining their habitat-Akhil

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I agree with Alekhya because such as the raccoon mentioned in article gets lots of attention because raccoons aren't everyday pets.

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Simran, yes, chances are the more popular the animal, the more likely people are willing to go out of their way to protect them. People care about these animals so much, they don't all think about the animals in the wildlife being harmed. -Lesley

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By the way, if something catches your ear from the inner circle conversation, particularly if it's a piece of textual evidence, feel free to refer to it in your post.

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People are poaching poor animals and if animals were seperate from humans they would thrive-Akhil

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i like what Madison said -Avery

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Do you think that because animals have social media accounts they might get more attention due to the fact that this is a less likely thing to see?-Simran

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It is human nature to be selfish. When people learn to have empathy for other species, this empathy can also be fellow humans. -emily

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If you agree or disagree with someone, explain why.

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In the attempt of saving animals, we might also "accidentally" ruin their habitat. - Saarth

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I agree with Simran, although, if we develop laws against rescuing, the same should apply to poaching.

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-Simran

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I agree with Simran -Avery

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-Avery

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"Compassion for other species can also nurture compassion for fellow humans." Do you agree with this statement? Why or why not?

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Yes, when you help someone someone you feel a sense of joy that you don't feel while doing an everyday thing. Helping animals can teach us to help humans as well.- Surya I

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I do kind of agree that compassion for other species can also nurture compassion for fellow humans. However, on the other hand, people also harm animals. In article #1, the writer of the article stated that people poached northern white rhinos and that the last male northern white rhino had died earlier this year in Kenya. So we only do more harm to animals as well. -Jasleen

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Students, let's switch gears just a bit and look at guiding question #2:

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I don't really agree with question 2 because although nurturing pets might help people a bit on nurturing humans, pets can't really communicate and article 2 said that pets are just really loving creatures and can't really complain if you do something bad.-Hansol

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I agree with Avery because in article 2 it says a lot of people cared about Cecil the lion when he died. They put posters up too. But when a person died they just mourned the death and forgot about it a week later. -Arpan

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I agree with it

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I agree with simran-akhil

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I agree with this statement because a study from wired.com shows that we care for the defenseless, whether they are human or animal. Caring about animals, who are defenseless, will in turn, help us care about defenseless humans.-Alekhya

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Animals already help us, we just need to give back. Animals are used for service and comfort which is beneficial to human kind. -sapna

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Saarth is correct because some animals like the sand cat can not survive anywhere else other than their nautral habitat

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People also rely on animals for food -Avery

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Thats a valid point rei but humans are less cared than animals

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That would be a good idea. I agree with you, Avery. -Alekhya

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What would you do if you had the choice of either saving a baby or a puppy? -Saarth

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I don't agree with this statement because in article two there is evidence that humans have a certain bias for certain animals. There is also the evidence that the media was more outraged about the death of a dog versus the death of a woman in Idaho. Raveena

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If u had the choice, would you save an adult human or an adult animal? I believe that most animal lovers like them because they're cute. Most people on social media don't share a special bond with the animal. Vrinda

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Can't we just help both of them, because helping one helps the other? -Avery

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Actually I believe that animals would be better off without humans. Apart from rescuing them, we are also poaching, and contributing greatly with deforestation. -emily

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People care more about pets more than they care about a foreign tourist_Akhil

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Avery, in regards to your latest post, how does one person help animals AND humans? How does one person make a difference?

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According to article #2, animals give unconditional love which is what humans crave. Humans abuse animals and they still trust us. However, this does not apply to humans among other humans. -sapna

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Akhil that is not true because 60% of people chose to help the foreign tourist, it's just that the percentage is close.-Hansol

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humans are growing more and more but exotic animals are slowly dying out

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-rei

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I think that there are numerous people fighting for animal rights - Saarth

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More humans are dying-akhil

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I agree with Saarth, people do sometimes think that they are helping something in need and when that occurs, they get a certain satisfaction from helping. People like being needed and appreciated. When they help someone or something, they feel good about themselves. -Jasleen

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Saarth, I love that you included T. E. in your post. Good job.

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Animals can bite and scratch  to defend themselves- Akhil

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-akhil

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Article 2 states that we also care more about animals because to us we feel that animals are helpless and are innocent due to the fact that they can't stand up for themselves

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Humans are spending a lot on pets, and they should be helping wild animals because animals really just need food, shelter, and water, and humans spend alot to make their pets happy while wild animals are suffering -Avery

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Article #1 says, " When the animals are gone, economic prospects for humans diminish as well." This is not true, because animals are only part of our economic system. They aren't everything. -Alekhya

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Mrs. Harman Murray, I believe that it is good to support animals. However, it is important to look after our own kind as well. -emily

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Compassion for other species can also nurture compassion for fellow humans. Article #2 states that chemicals in the brain are released when we see cute animals. This makes us want to help them. This might also work for humans. --Woyu

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Here's something to consider...in 2015 it was estimated that Americans spent over 60 BILLION dollars on their pets. Is this shocking to you? Should we, as Americans, be ashamed of this?

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According to Article #2, The death of the dog got more attention than the death of a pregnant woman and the death of 42 million cows .

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Thousands of animals are killed everyday by poachers and abusers without anyone knowing, and how often do you see a debate on TV on animal welfare? -Sapna

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-sapna

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I think that helping animals is a false sense of doing something right since people are under the illusion that that animal is so "innocent". That is why according to article 1, 40 percent of people would save their pet dog over a foreign tourist. - Saarth

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yes, according to a expirment i did birds are eating more and more trash which is leading to their extinction

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Only some people get these kind of jobs, and not everyone will have a job if we protect only animals-Alekhya

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Article one says "When the animals are gone, economic prospects for humans diminish as well." So basically humans depend on animals for food and money, so humans rely on animals. -Avery

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I think that we can evenly divide our money spent on both pets and humans, we can contribute as a group.- Surya I

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We could reduce our problem of overpopulation. We already destroy their habitats so we have a place to live and without this problem they could get their places to live back-Simran

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Simran, what do you mean exactly? I shouldn't really, really care about my dog when there are starving people in many parts of the world? Or, are you saying I shouldn't educate myself about the needs of others and do something to help them?

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Yes, they have a lot more to contribute to the world. They are our future, and they can drive us to accomplish more. Plus only a select few are able to benefit when helping an animal, not everyone will be able to watch out for poachers like in Africa. Raveena

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Humans are suffering with poverty all over the world. If one dog or cat dies, the world cares more about the dog than the poor people.-Akhil

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Do you have evidence to support why animals are more important? - Saarth

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Yes, I agree with Raveena. I think humans are our future-Alekhya

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The goverment at least hosts debates based on gun shootings though they never host debates based on animal welfare.

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Animals were here first, and animal cruelty wouldn't happen if people didn't come and mess with them -Avery

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there should also be a balance and right now humans are tipping the scales because by the minute 3 species are dying out-rei

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However, Rei, I believe animals would be better off without humans. As much as humans are helping them, what we do to our environment affects animals greatly, and we are harming them more than helping. -emily

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Animals also cannot defend themselves as well as humans. While a human can yell and fight back, animals are less likely to escape. -Lesley

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According to Article #1, many groups near the Dzanga Sangha depend on the wildlife there. Their culture and identity is the forest. The conservative efforts provide people with jobs and money, making their lives better. --Woyu

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People care more about a dead animal than they care about a bunch of people who were killed- Akhil

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People rely on animals for comfort not for food and money. Animals are there to give you comfort when your feeling down or to play around with you.  -Arpan

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That is true, Woyu, but I think that humans should be protected more, because they are the future. They make new technology and grow our crops to eat. _Alekhya

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I believe that some humans would choose the save animals because humans feel like animals could be more important than humans because the internet shows all these things that shows animals save humans and stories that animals helplessly die when tons of humans have died like that to.-Hansol

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So, is the key to strike some kind of balance? To care for BOTH animals and humans? But, how can someone actually do this? There is SO much suffering in the world. How can one person make a difference?

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In my opinion, it isn't wrong to focus on animals more than humans.-Simran

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Only certain jobs can be given, and everyone won't have a job-Alekhya

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The human species is already overpopulated, so is it really necessary that we choose to save someone we don't know over one that we consider our family? -Sapna