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I want to know who I should hold accountable for making me wear these goggles. 

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I want to know who I should hold accountable for making me wear these goggles. 

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That testing measures the gap not creates it.

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Different stance than I usually see. Does not create the gap but is a resource to see who needs additional help.

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The pro team discussed a “diversity of intelligence”… I would love to hear more on why it is important for there to be different levels of intelligence in our society

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The way that the environment of the testing area can have such a huge effect on the results of standardized tests. 

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The way that the environment of the testing area can have such a huge effect on the results of standardized tests. 

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That standardized testing is practice for future tests and the real world

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Advocating for testing doesn't necessarily mean advocating for the barriers testing often present (like the price to retest)

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50-80% of scores were changed by external factors

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That the result of standardized testing is skewed very heavily by external factors out of the control of the student.

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50-80% of students' scores are changed based on their peers' scores

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50-80% of students' scores are changed based on their peers' scores

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Testing helps provide the quantitative results necessary for qualitative changes to be made

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Bold, but powerful argument with strong examples that hit Kael's point home.

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An argument that stood out was that they are arguing for testing, not for testing to be paid for. They phrased a solution that could just be waiving fees for lower income households.

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The turning friends into competitors into friends was an interesting argument and I wish we could hear more about it

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That standardized testing is in every way not equal to all students even in the language they use to create the tests (white centered dialects).

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The tests themselves can be, if somewhat effective at best, a way for your application to stand out if other avenues (e.g. extracurriculars) were largely unavailable.

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It showed me all the different arguments and helped solidify my own beliefs. Definitely find it telling that there exists a vomiting policy. 

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It showed me all the different arguments and helped solidify my own beliefs. Definitely find it telling that there exists a vomiting policy. 

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Curriculum based around standardized testing is less effective than project-based learning

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The vomiting protocol has stood out every time I hear it. It goes to show how cruel these tests can be.

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One argument made by the con team was the fact that he has such a quick and simple solution that he brought to focus on the spot. His explanation of the solution to assessing what kids have learned was extremely persuasive. As someone who began this debate on the pro side of this argument, Kale’s arguments honestly made me become more neutral to the subject, knowing that there could be a solution/improvement instead of complete eradication.

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With so many tests overall in one's education career they all still hold such weight, and that within each test so much can be effected externally that defeats the idea of them being "standard" to begin with

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The 'does not create the gap, but measures it' argument was strong, I think.

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The 'does not create the gap, but measures it' argument was strong, I think.

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Testing helps students create goals/standards for themselves and pushes them to meet/exceed those

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Testing helps students create goals/standards for themselves and pushes them to meet/exceed those

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Achievement gap is caused by resources/inequality outside of school that can be measured and identified by tests to help the students

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Pro team explained how to utilize the gap as a resource, which I found to be very compelling.

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The test provides accountability for students/teachers to meet learning goals that every student should be able to understand by the end of their schooling

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Pro team mentioned that they don’t advocate for the paying of tests. But even if the tests were free, students with more resources can pay for SAT courses and tutors so it’s still not a leg up for marginalized students. 

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Pro team mentioned that they don’t advocate for the paying of tests. But even if the tests were free, students with more resources can pay for SAT courses and tutors so it’s still not a leg up for marginalized students. 

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I'd like to hear more about people's takes on tutoring, test prep books, and other forms of preparation for testing that may be only available to the already privileged

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I think something I took away is the blank space that is the answer to the question: "if not testing, then what?" I was not really compelled by any of the suggested answers, for even projects at the end of a class will be biased by the same resources each school has due to property taxes. And would we standardize these projects? If so, is this really much better than a test?

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The complexities behind using project-based learning instead of standardized tests, specifically what the pro team said about how it might not be a fair measurement as different schools have different access to resources

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Does one failure really ruin everything?

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Does one failure really ruin everything?

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How many of these tests really make/break a student's educational experience? Elementary/middle school grades have little to no long-term implications, and most tests in high school are becoming optional. I'd love to hear more thoughts on whether or not one test can truly ruin everything

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Moving forward I want to be more cognizant of making big generalizations about a group of people. Minorities were depicted in this debate with a lot of stereotypes, which is something to word differently moving forward.

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If the entire testing "sphere" could be made free (everything from the tests themselves to tutoring/textbooks), how would that affect our schooling/the test results themselves?

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It let me look more at the big picture instead of just focusing on the side that I actually believe which is the con side. Specifically, an argument from the pro side made me think deeper when they talked about the fact that standardized testing only measures the achievement gap and shows up where problems lay. If we used these measurements effectively to give help where it's needed than maybe standardized tests could actually be useful.

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is there a difference in the life skills developed in someone who grew up taking the 112 standardized tests compared to someone who went to a school that focused more on project based learning?

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The description of how one community writes the test in a dialect mostly known/well understood by people from that community makes tests inaccessible to people from other communities/backgrounds who might be more familiar with different dialect