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This phrase helps us know that the govenment has already been in war with other countries, also this might be the biggest errors that big brother has make because not all persons in this place are blind and they can figure out that there is this mistake and reveal against big brother. the propaganda is one of the biggest weapons that the government has but they need to be careful of making mistakes in front of the citizens  because they can get in big problems because of the reveal of the persons.

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This quote helps understand what the government does. The government always changes the story for their benefit. If they do not like something, they just make it disappear. They vaporize it. The citizens in Oceania are vevry ignorant because theyare always believing what the government says or does. Except for Julia and Winston, they are fnally opening their eyes ad realizing that the government is very messed up. And with the book that O’brien gave them, they will rebel in a future. When he got the book, he started reading it, and after he read to Julia in their hiding spot.for example, the propaganda that the president was doing here, people believed he was making a change, but actually he was not, is only what people believed. _maricruz

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In chapter 9 things had change radically because the government of Oceania declared war against Eastasia, which was a supposed ally. Their strategy is to change history, by doing that they will erase every evidence that proves that were in war against Eurasia. The government is being stupid incthis move because the people can discover the truth by Winston. Winston has the job of deleting all type of document that relate them with the war against Eastasia. For the government, having the people in their power is the best strategy because they will not rebel against them and loose their power, so they need to use propaganda to have their minds stupid, as they already have done it.

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"it had just been announced that Oceania was not after all at war with Eurasia. Oceana was at war with Eastasia. Eurasia was an ally.” This quote tells that the government did a big mistake with its people. This is a big deal, because now the government is ruining history. What the government is trying to do is to simply change history. They will erase every evidence that said that they where in war against Eurasia. With these actions we can see that the government shamelessly plays with people's minds. An example of this in real life, was given by news saying that Russians were against everything the U.S.A did. These news where given by reporters against Russia, and since CNN is popular world wide, people believed all of this. They ended of quiting, CNN, because they gve false accusations.

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“it had just been announced that Oceania was not after all at war with Eurasia. Oceana was at war with Eastasia. Eurasia was an ally.” Why is this such a big deal?  Explain Oceania’s foreign diplomacy as of late. How does it feed into what big brother does to it’s people in the big picture? Think of propoganda in the past the us has fed its citizens and compare. 

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“it had just been announced that Oceania was not after all at war with Eurasia. Oceana was at war with Eastasia. Eurasia was an ally.” Why is this such a big deal?  Explain Oceania’s foreign diplomacy as of late. How does it feed into what big brother does to it’s people in the big picture? Think of propoganda in the past the us has fed its citizens and compare. 

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This was a big mistakecommited by the government. some time ago the government announced they were in a war against Eurasia, and now they said they are in war with Eastasia. This is big deal because BB is changing everything he once said. People believed BB about everything, but something like this can make them have second thoughts about his way of governing. BB needs to be carefull because people like Winston, who are not blind at all, can identify this kind of mistakes and I believe Winston is not the only one that can identify them. Propaganda is very important for a government. When the people hear and see the propaganda it starts to get into their mind and influence in their way of seeing the world and they can be influenced by the people that the propaganda announces. -Daniel

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Chapter 9 b2Discussion Prompt: Think of the quote: “it had just been announced that Oceania was not after all at war with Eurasia. Oceana was at war with Eastasia. Eurasia was an ally.” Why is this such a big deal?  Explain Oceania’s foreign diplomacy as of late. How does it feed into what big brother does to it’s people in the big picture? Think of propoganda in the past the us has fed its citizens and compare

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Chapter 9 b2Discussion Prompt: Think of the quote: “it had just been announced that Oceania was not after all at war with Eurasia. Oceana was at war with Eastasia. Eurasia was an ally.” Why is this such a big deal?  Explain Oceania’s foreign diplomacy as of late. How does it feed into what big brother does to it’s people in the big picture? Think of propoganda in the past the us has fed its citizens and compare

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"it had just been announced that Oceania was not after all at war with Eurasia. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Eurasia was an ally.”this plays a big deal because the president or the government is changing  all the evidence that of the past and making his own propaganda. he is making people think in the changes when they are no truly happening this is a way that the government changes and washes peoples mind. Government is changing history and making them believe thet history has always been like that. This is a way that all the presidents play with our minds. For example, our president says that Honduras is changing that is non real our country is the same the violence is increasing and education is decreasing but he is making us believe that this things are happening because of the propaganda he is doing.

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“it had just been announced that Oceania was not after all at war with Eurasia. Oceana was at war with Eastasia. Eurasia was an ally.” This quote tells us how the government changes the stories to favor themselves and how they can trick the people since the people are so uneducated and so ignorant. This is the way of big brother to controlling the people from Oceana. Now they are going to change their story.

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“it had just been announced that Oceania was not after all at war with Eurasia. Oceana was at war with Eastasia. Eurasia was an ally.” this quote is a big deal because the government is now changing their story. They were at war with Eurasia and now they are not. They are making people believe that the war has always been against Eastasia and that Eurasia has always been an ally. Now, they will change every propaganda saying likewise. They will erase any evidence that said otherwise. This type of movement from Big Brother, plays with the mind of the people of Oceania. They are already screwed up in their own head and they are ruining their mind even more by constantly changing history. I can't think of propaganda from the U.S but I can from Honduras. The president is making believe everyone here in Honduras that violence has decreased and that poverty has also decreased. He is washing people's head, just like in 1984 but telling them something that is supposedly happening but it is not true. These kinds of propaganda plays games with people's minds and it is not right because it confuses them.

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It had just been announced that Oceania was not in war with Eurasia, is in war with Easteasia. Saying this in the hate week can make the government have some problems because they will need to erase every evidence that made Eurasia look like enemy. Winston work 90 hours to eliminate every evidence, this is a clear example that not matter what government make people don,t care about it. They act like if they where blind, because they don,t react against things government is doing they lye to people. They lie to people about everything and not matter what people still don,t know what happen they only continue doing the same. BB had control in everything, they make people look thing like if they are good.-Hector

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Changing allies and enemiesn whenever Big Brother wants to, can unmask the government and unblind the people. Oceania has always been in war, sometimes with Eastasia, others with Eurasia. In chapter 9, the government made a mistake: it announced for years that war was against Eurasia, but during the Hate Week announced war was against Eastasia (a supposed ally).Curiosly, these wars are endless although the three world powers that exist, already have everything they need: power, land, resources and most importantly, people's minds.
If control over the people were to be lost, the nations would collapse. Thus the importance of worrying so much to keep a good picture of the government. Such mistakes as saying that Oceania is not at war with Eurasia and then suddenly saying it is at war with Easteasia bring consequences. In this case, as a result, Winston and his comrades had to work over 90 hours weekly to delete all unproper articles and rewrite stories. The government uses people to make lies and then, makes them believe their own stories and "fake facts." Propaganda can be useful, but whenever advertised, one better have a back up! I doubt a modern country could make people change their minds in a couple of days as Oceania did. But... if we pretend for a moment it could...would we be among those who would blindly accept the lies?

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Think of the quote: it had just been announced that Oceania was not after all at war with Eurasia. Oceana was at war with East Asia. Eurasia was an ally Why is this such a big deal? Â Explain Oceania's foreign diplomacy as of late. How does it feed into what big brother does to its people in the big picture? Think of propaganda in the past the us has fed its citizens and compare.

This quote is an example of what is going with government and their citizens. As we know all government wants is to control them so they rely on the past in order to do so. I think that if we look in the
past we can find stories we might like, and other we might not but if we don't then what can we do to make them better? or to change the end of it?. what government is doing is changing the stories in order for cityzens to believe in what they want, and that helps them to have a better control over them. BB does this , we know that Winston works changing storys and getting read of the parts of the stories that they don't want people to know of. The big problem that Oceania has is that people is ignorant so they wont ask, they wont try to know more... they just believe on what the rest say and in this case on what BB says. In a case when yo don't believe something propaganda is the best source to use. so government does that too not even just in this book but in real life. as an example I can give that presidents will offer things to people and thy will use the right words to make us believe on them so that at the end we will vote for them and we will follow them.But at the end not all presidents comply with what they have offered.

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“It had just been announced that Oceania was not after all at war with Eurasia. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Eurasia was an ally.” This quote clearly tells what the government is doing with their citizens. The government wants to have control over them, so they lie about the past and everything that is happening. Citizens are too ignorant and stupid to recognize what the government is doing. The government has too much power and they are able to “change” history in order to make people believe them. For example, Winston works to make those changes and those changes are made to benefit the gov. He gets some articles and he has to change them as the government wants him to do. They make those changes and make them look like is the truth, so people will not doubt about it. They will also continue to do whatever they want if people do not realize what is happening. The government will use any source (like propaganda) to make people trust them and it will be easier because with time citizens will conform with what they say.
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In this book, people is very ignorant and stupid. They believe and accept everything the government or Big Brother tell them. The truth has always been the truth all the time, but they change it to a "truth" where they are the ones who benefits themselves from that. People here do not realize things, they just obey the orders and let them control them in every aspect. History changes with time. But if they do not open their eyes, they would never change their condition and will always be controlled. For them, everything the Party, or BB says, is correct and they will follow everything they tell them. It is so easy to take the power and control people who don't argue what you tell them and people who conform easily.

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“it had just been announced that Oceania was not after all at war with Eurasia. Oceana was at war with Eastasia. Eurasia was an ally.” It is a big deal because the government is lying about something they said, and people just accept it they are so ignorant that they just think what the government says. The history is changing and they still dont get that the government are only using them. If the party says something it has to be true no one can think that is a lie what they said is the truth. Big Brother controls everything he is to smart to let something like that happen.

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"It had just been announced that Oceania was not after all at war with Eurasia. Oceana was at war with Eastasia. Eurasia was an ally.”  This quote is a clear example of how the goverment uses Doublethink to control its citizens. They changed the past, lied about something that they said and everyone just accepts it and believes that this is the truth, that it has always been the truth. The people are so ignorant, and easy to control that they don't question this at all.  History keeps changing, and yet not one of them admits it. The Party is always right, what they say is the truth, even if they have the knowledge and memories of the party being wrong. Their brains are wired in such a way that they are aware of the lies and still look over it and ignore what they knew before. Oceania is at constant "war", though there are no wins or loses, just war in a constant state. They make agreementa with one super-state and be in war with the other, and when time passes they go back to fighting their "ally", and lie about ever being in peace with them. Big Brother control everything and everyone be just existing and planting his ideology in people's mind.