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Hmmm....It's fine to sit next to someone in church and attend the same community functions. Just don't want m'kids in school with them

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Hmmm....It's fine to sit next to someone in church and attend the same community functions. Just don't want m'kids in school with them

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“A look around at our community sporting events, our churches are great snapshots of our community. A look into our schools, and you’ll see something totally different.”

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School segregation didn't go away. It just evolved.

I chose it because I never really thought about how leaving from a school district could be thought of like this. As the quote suggests, school districts are being more creative in the ways they go about segregation without explicitly stating it.

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"Many communities areformed [as] not a result of voluntary choicebut exclusion"

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What will the next generation do? If we start segregating schools do to funding. It's just creating prejudice in effecting every community and families.

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What will the next generation do? If we start segregating schools do to funding. It's just creating prejudice in effecting every community and families.

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Holy crap... I went to one of these suburb schools.

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Holy crap... I went to one of these suburb schools.

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"They were carving out a more affluent, more white area and starting their own school district with it. "

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She hit on a theme that was present in all of these fights over borders: this implication that some people inherently belong in this collective group — to make decisions, share resources, and add value to the community — and that other people hold them back.

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I had never considered this aspect of school funding

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"...this implication that some people inherently belong in this collective group — to make decisions, share resources, and add value to the community — and that other people hold them back."
These are the same sentiments that the man who was interviewed on the video about white supremacy had. "A separate, all white nation."

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"...this implication that some people inherently belong in this collective group — to make decisions, share resources, and add value to the community — and that other people hold them back."

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"Many communities are formed [as] not a result of voluntary choice but exclusion,"

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"Many communities are formed [as] not a result of voluntary choice but exclusion,"

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Wilson

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Up until 1973 college was free in CA. in 1973 CA homeowners voted to end free college and take a tax cut on their homes.

According to proposition 13, CA homeowners pay the same property tax as the value of the home when the bought it. In CA homeprices have risen by as many as 10x in the last four decades and many homeowners pay the same tax as the 70s. Additionally, the tax rate can be passed down to descendants in the family.

Since, we know that as a fact suburbs were segreated as were homeloans, Prop. 13 gave white CA residents a huge advantage. For ex. in Santa Cruz many baby boomers own several properties as landlords in a college town. Rent is high and so is the housing market. All to the benefit of homeowners.

Also tuition keeps increasing!

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"And it’s not just Jefferson County. Since 2000, 70 other communities have tried to secede from their district, according to the recent EdBuild report."

This isn't an isolated event or something that's just happening in the South.

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A telling feature of thinly veiled systemic racism

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A telling feature of thinly veiled systemic racism

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“The counterargument is often the Jeffersonian idea of localism — that we function better in smaller communities that people form with like-minded people. But UNC’s Wilson says this defense is often used destructively to exclude others.

And it ignores the discriminatory policies that forced people into certain geographies. "Many communities are formed [as] not a result of voluntary choice but exclusion," she said.” – A telling feature of thinly veiled systemic racism. Separate, non-sharing, unbridled social competition.

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Why are schools funded based on local property taxes, rather than a collective melting pot for everyone? I've known that for a long time, and it has never made sense to me... 

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Why are schools funded based on local property taxes, rather than a collective melting pot for everyone? I've known that for a long time, and it has never made sense to me... 

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"School district lines, however innocently drawn, will surely be perceived as fences to separate the races..."

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"School district lines, however innocently drawn, will surely be perceived as fences to separate the races..."

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"Many communities are formed [as] not a result of voluntary choice but exclusion," 

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"Many communities are formed [as] not a result of voluntary choice but exclusion," 

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I chose this picture because it is striking to see how very small the school district borders are, and then to see that mass of open space. I I don’t know anything really about. The population of Jefferson County, but I think I can see a striking pattern. I think of the old proverb, “what goes into a man, also comes out of him.” Even if it was not intentional, the internal racist ideals held by some appear to be manifest here.

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This tool needed to make sure white families couldn’t merely move to the other side of a border, or create new borders, to opt out of a social contract with people who are less fortunate

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This tool needed to make sure white families couldn’t merely move to the other side of a border, or create new borders, to opt out of a social contract with people who are less fortunate

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“Those students do not contribute financially,” one organizer wrote. “They consume the resources of our schools, our teachers and our resident students, then go home.”

The organizer also wrote: “A look around at our community sporting events, our churches are great snapshots of our community. A look into our schools, and you’ll see something totally different.”

...the "organizer" is apparently proud of their church, yet does not seem to have a very giving spirit!

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Fast-forward a few generations and we now have good schools that tend to be in the suburbs and bad schools that tend to be in central cities, and they track along racial lines.

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"Many communities are formed [as] not a result of voluntary choice but exclusion," she said.

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"Many communities are formed [as] not a result of voluntary choice but exclusion," she said.

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By preventing families from living in certain areas of the suburbs we are essentially saying that they are somehow, less important and their potential societal impact will only be negative or non-existent. This is disheartening to younger generations because it tells them that no matter what they do, it will never be enough and there is no reason to try.

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"They have created a system that incentivizes middle-class people to use their moderate wealth to wall in opportunities for their own kids, while depriving the kids of others. They’ve allowed parents, acting in self-interest, to create school systems that reproduce, or even exacerbate, the structural inequality we see today."

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"They have created a system that incentivizes middle-class people to use their moderate wealth to wall in opportunities for their own kids, while depriving the kids of others. They’ve allowed parents, acting in self-interest, to create school systems that reproduce, or even exacerbate, the structural inequality we see today."

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"these schools are not yours, and you are not welcome here."
-It's bizarre that these ideologies still exist. It reminds me of the Little Rock on Nine incident where AA students had to be protected. Lack of SES goes hand in hand with the lack of equal and equitable educations.

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School segregation is exists because of residential segregation. "This is built on state-sponsored blueprints for segregation. In the 1940s, the federal government started backing home loans to white people but refused them to black people — and even those who wanted to live around black people."  I think that the solution to ending school segregation is regulations to integrate communities.

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"these schools are not yours, and you are not welcome here."
I can't believe we live in 21st century.

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I saw this picture and it reminded me of the kinds of issues within our community that promotes discontent between social classes and groups.

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School district lines, however innocently drawn, will surely be perceived as fences to separate the races when, under a Detroit-only decree, white parents withdraw their children from the Detroit city schools and move to the suburbs in order to continue them in all-white schools.

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I had not put much thought into 'school district boarders' before this article. The thought and effort put in in some of these communities is outstanding. Merging backgrounds is such a positive rather than something to avoid. Giving with your tax dollars should be bennefiting your community. Maybe not your immediate neighbor but your community as a whole. This includes kids you may not know. There was a story where I grew up of a family that was appauled when signing HOA paperwork that meantioned race and sounded as it was nicely segregating the community. This article reminded me of that story.

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"I call it a form of destructive localism. People who are fortunate enough to form utopias do so on the backs of other folks who have been excluded."

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"I call it a form of destructive localism. People who are fortunate enough to form utopias do so on the backs of other folks who have been excluded."

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"If it weren't for being able to escape my school attendance boundary lines," she said, "I do question what would've been my future."

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"If it weren't for being able to escape my school attendance boundary lines," she said, "I do question what would've been my future."- UNC’s Wilson

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This judge is wresting on the mere possibility of fairness and equality rather than mandating it... "And isn't it possible that these children and their parents will do more to cure the despicable societal malignancy of racism than an order that drives a wedge in a community and creates new resentments?"

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This judge is wresting on the mere possibility of fairness and equality rather than mandating it... "And isn't it possible that these children and their parents will do more to cure the despicable societal malignancy of racism than an order that drives a wedge in a community and creates new resentments?"

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This argument places a lot of faith in the people who originally wished for segregation in the first place.

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School district lines, however innocently drawn, will surely be perceived as fences to separate the races when, under a Detroit-only decree, white parents withdraw their children from the Detroit city schools and move to the suburbs in order to continue them in all-white schools.

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"the feds also backed development loans for suburban communities — as long as none of the homes were sold to black people."

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"She hit on a theme that was present in all of these fights over borders: this implication that some people inherently belong in this collective group — to make decisions, share resources, and add value to the community — and that other people hold them back.

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Urban Sprawl is a component of segregation?

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Urban Sprawl is a component of segregation?

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"we take urban sprawl as a rational choice by individuals who desire bigger houses, car dependence, strip malls, and highways. But that ignores the government policies that prop up these decisions."

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In what sense are the "neediest" children more expensive?

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In what sense are the "neediest" children more expensive?

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"to put up new walls — to carve out borders with other middle-class families so you don’t need to share with the neediest children, who tend to be more expensive."

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 "The Court said that unless the district lines were drawn with racist intent, the suburban districts did not have to integrate among each other or with Detroit."

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 "The Court said that unless the district lines were drawn with racist intent, the suburban districts did not have to integrate among each other or with Detroit."

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--It seems obvious that once you request proof of racist intent you leave a door open for a lot of subtly racist policies.

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To what lengths will people go to maintain power over others, and to what extent will people choose to remain silent? These maps have been drawn so meticulously. Not for the cause of equity, however, but to keep the children of white families in control

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"A huge chunk of school funding comes from local property taxes, instead of being a centralized pot of money at the state level.

It creates this incentive for homeowners to band together with other better-to-do people, fence in that wealth, and use that money to improve only their schools. That, in turn, could increase their property values."

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Back in Gardendale, Alabama, federal judge Madeline Haikala oversaw the case of whether the city could create its own district — and she didn’t mince words in describing what she saw.

"These citizens prefer a predominantly white city," she wrote in April, after reviewing the public comments from organizers.

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"Even in the years before desegregation started, white families started to leave at alarmingly high rates "

This is a good example of the "white flight" theory. Neighborhoods that grow in their minority population also see an increase of white families leaving. Also, when neighborhoods become more diverse the value in housing also drop with it. This was commonly used as the excuse to leave their diversifying neighborhoods (rather than the underlining racism).

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Motivations/ideology
“destructive localism”
“Make America Great Again ethos”
unwillingness to honor a social contract

Role of policy
home loans, zoning create white neighborhoods
1954 Brown v Board
outlaws segregation
but
1974 Milliken v Bradley
upholds "local control"
how to prove "racist intent"?
Funding:
local, not state property taxes

"secession," "local control" (like "states' rights"?) => Civil War-era language, social dynamic

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"A huge chunk of school funding comes from local property taxes, instead of being a centralized pot of money at the state level"

-How does it come down to where a student lives and the educational opportunities that they have? Shouldn't all students have the ability to have equal access to a valuable education regardless of socio-economic status, living situation and race. If all schools were strong, had facilities, supplies and knowledgable educators, all students would have access to a valuable education.

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Interesting that across all lines these smaller groups of people who can afford to move into the suburb areas are increasing over time. This at least is a good sign for the overall trend of potentially better off families in suburbs

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“Those students do not contribute financially,” one organizer wrote. “They consume the resources of our schools, our teachers and our resident students, then go home.”

The organizer also wrote: “A look around at our community sporting events, our churches are great snapshots of our community. A look into our schools, and you’ll see something totally different.”

...the "organizer" is apparently proud of their church, yet does not seem to have a very giving spirit!

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School and neighborhood segregation has a long history rooted in slavery

The segregation of 2017 through the creation of new districts and neighborhoods separated by suburbs and "inner city" (which dates back to clearly racist zoning, mortgage, housing deed policies) all violate the 5th, 13th, and 14th amendments.

The 5th amendment protects citizens from abuse from the federal gov.

13th states that the "badges and incidents of slavery" to be abolished (consider racist city zoning policies and mortgage discrimination)

In 1966 the U.S. supreme court upheld that discriminatory zoning and school district polices violated the 13th amendment

*see the link to book referenced  in the article  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1631492853/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=epi068-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=1631492853&linkId=0f9943f81bf5f29ac52fa19880e3515e