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I don't believe that the soldiers obsession are irrational. Sometimes obsessions can help people cope with traumatic experiences

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I agree with Kaushik that there is a line with what is rational and irrational and expression disapproval of a call is rational and performance enhancing drugs are irrational

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I agree with Maggie that obsession can be un-harmful at first but once it continues on for a long time period, it does become dangerous and influence irrational behaviors.

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I agree with Kaushik that environmental factors, such as being in the pretend prison, can further an obsession.

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Is it a problem in society that people allow themselves to be so influenced by the mass media instead of holding true to themselves?

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I agree with Landon that nowadays social medias and the news influence behaviors

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I agree with Maggie and how an obsession over something such as a dog for a few days is fine, however, once it turns into a couple weeks or months, than it can be very unhealthy.

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How does Macbeth play into Obsession and is was it his obsession that made him think irrationally or was it lady Macbeth's obsession or was he just crazy?

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How does a worldview affect how we see ourselves and others?

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What are the responsibilities that come with power?

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To answer Zachs question, it is when it causes people to act irrationally because with both the monster and MacBeth, their obsessions became bad when they killed others

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I disagree that pertruchio was obsessed with power because i think that he was just doing what the times told him to do, he was not the only person who treated his wife like that, so for the time it was not an obsession it was socially acceptable.

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I agree that killing someone is never justifiable

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I agree with Landon, social media has a great impact on society today and our behaviors

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i agree with landon and ben society and technology are a huge influence in making things obsessions

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I agree that Petruchio acts irrationally and mistreats Kate just because he's so obsessed with having so much power over her

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The monsters murders were irrational because they were made from impulse decisions and murdering is never ok

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Can you easily separate impulsiveness from obsessive behaviors?

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II also believe that fear can make people act on irrational behaviors.

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I agree that strong emotions can bring up past obsessions and cause irrational thinking.

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I think that obsession can cloud rational thinking because obsessions are caused by intense emotion, and when a person becomes overwhelmed with emotion, they often do not have the ability to think rationally.

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I think that your surroundings can make you act irrationally and this can be seen in Frankenstein for society did not accept the monster. Everyone was afraid of him because of how he looked. Society's view of the monster led to his cruel behaviors. When the Delacy family would not accept him, he was determined to find Victor and kill whoever was close to him.

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I believe deep down, obsessions will never leave you completely.

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"Two years passed in this manner, during which I paid no visit to Geneva, but was engaged, heat and soul, in the pursuit of some discoveries which I hoped to make."

-Frankenstein was so engaged and obsessed with science that he act irrationally by closing himself off from the rest of the world which led to him becoming very unhealthy and sleep deprived

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I agree with Kaushik, the monster showed that emotion can also create irrational actions

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I agree with Ben because in the beginning of the novel, Macbeth is a loyal and well respected man. However, after hearing what the witches say to him, his entire attitude changes. Once he hears that he will be King, he is determined to get there no matter what it takes. He kills Duncan because of his desire to have power. His selfishness take over him.

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I agree with Neil's idea that the irrational behavior caused by obsession can be forgiven, but if it continues over time, then it is fair game for criticism or prosecution.

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I agree with Lucas, but Macbeth's ambition to eliminate all competition for the throne blinded him from seeing those warning signs

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I agree with Ben, as Macbeth became obsessed with becoming king, making him take irrational acctions

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I think that Macbeth was stuck in his obsessions and he was unable to escape them that is why he continued to kill and lie to everyone in the play.

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Nice ben

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Acting irrational isn't justifiable, but in some instances there are valid reasons to such profound actions. For example the Monster's actions weren't humane, but he never understood what his actions were doing to others?

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I agree with Lucas that MacBeth knew what he was doing was bad because he kept on getting crazier and crazier after each of the murders and he originally did not want to commit them

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I agree with Lucas , Macbeth knew what he was doing was wrong and he continued to endeavor in his actions

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I believe that emotion plays a bigger role in driving irrational behavior because all of the horrible actions that the monster executed were a result of his anger and sadness towards his being an outcast.

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I agree with Ben , acting irrational is never justifiable

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Ali A. Can obsessions help people achieve something positive?

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To answer maggie's question, it is never justified just because of an obsession, it is never ok to just act irrationally for no reason

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Good quote Ben.

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I think Macbeth's obsession started with the witches because they were the one who initially gave Macbeth the hope that he'd become king

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I believe that people often don't consider consequences that may affect other people due to their own personal ambition

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do you think there would be a different outcome if they relished that he was doing was irrational and if he did do you think he would have stopped

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I agree with Ben and how,  Victor had a constant desire to obtain as much knowledge as possible. He wanted to exceed the limit, no matter what the affects would be. His need for knowledge drove him to create the monster.

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I disagree with Ben's point that irrational behavior can never be justified. I think that in times when someone isn't at their mental prime, such as the monster being disillusioned with life and disoriented from just being created and not knowing anything about life, then his actions can be at least somewhat forgiven due to his lack of knowledge.

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Obsession isn't just a want, an obsession is something that constantly nags ones mind, ultimately leading to that individul doing whatever needs to be done to obtain whatever it is.

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How did Macbeth develop his obsession? Did it start with the witches, Lady Macbeth, or within himself?

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Justin Clemens - What are the main side effects we can see in the novels that are caused from the obsessions that characters have?

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what were the consequences of victor isolated himself and creating the monster, besides the actions that the monster did

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I agree with Ben that society has some influence on our behavior because of experiences and perceptions

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I dont think that irrational actions are always derived from obsessions. I think that they are simply the result of a persons thought process that lacks consideration of the possible consequences of their actions if they follow through.

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I agree with Zach that ambition is the root cause of obsession

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Ali A. I agree with Ben. Victor wasn't necessarily acting irresponsibly.

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I think that often the introductions of new events or ideas can lead to the development of an obsession because when there are so many unknowns that curiosity results in an obsession.

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I think at some point ambition ties in greatly with an individuals obsession and their drive to obtain

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I think that Victor and Macbeth have similar characteristics because they both wanted to obtain some sort of godly power, as Neil said. Victor wanted to be seen as a powerful creator and Macbeth wanted to be seen as a powerful leader. The behavior of both characters was driven by their desire to gain attention and gain a following.

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I agree with Ben that Victors thoughts were not irrational with the creation of the monster unlike the result

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Are irrational actions always derived from obsessions?

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Are you stuck in your obsessions?

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Is there a certain type of person who develops obsessions or can it happen to anyone?

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I think the point that has been made that obsession can cause irrational behavior, but that the behaviors are not always easy to blame is a good point. In the case of the monster, the murders he committed can't be totally blamed due to his inexperience and lack of knowledge of morals and how life works.

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People can become so obsessed with something that they will do anything in order to reach their goal.

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I agree with Neil, Victor became obsessed with creating the monster, and it made him make irrational decisions

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Justin Clemens - I agree with Maggie and to add on I would say that when someone has a mental shift or if is having a problem mentally they will have worse type of obsession and the result will only end up terrible

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"Shall each man," cried he, "find a wife for his bosom, and each beast have his mate, and I be alone? I had feelings of affection, and they were recruited by detestation and scorn. Man! You may hate, but beware! Your hours will pass in dread and misery, and soon the bolt will fall which must ravish from you your happiness forever.”(20.11)

This shows that the monster acted out of anger and spite due to the fact that Frankenstein refused to build him a female companion out of fear that he might make another mistake in creating life

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The monsters naiveness about the world stemmed from Victor not being there to teach him right from wrong, and that led to the obsession of making Victors life miserable

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“Besides, this Duncan hath borne his faculties so meek, hath been so clear in his great office, that his virtues will plead like angels, trumpet-tongued, against the deep damnation of his taking-off” (1.7.16-20). Macbeth acts irrationally by going on to kill Duncan, when he knows not to, but he is just so obsessed with power

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At what point does obsession for something become blatant greed?

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Ali A.  The monster was obsessed with getting a mate. It was't not necessarily a bad thing by because all he wanted was a friend,  but because of how obsessions works, he acted very irrationally and killed a bunch of people just to force Victor to make the monster.

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In taming of the shrew, Petruchio is obsessed with taming Kate. He will not take a day off because he enjoys making Kate suffer.

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I think that the monster knew that his actions were wrong, but he did it out of spite and revenge for Victor

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I agree with Ben because all he wanted was to advance science and do something that hadn't been done before he was just trying to do something great his only mistake was not thinking about the possible outcomes.

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Ali A. Are obsessions necessarily a bad thing?

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Maggie made a great point

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Our perceptions greatly influence our actions toward others, as they show our biased opinions of others. Frankenstein is a good example of this. “He sought his own enjoyment in feelings and passions from the indulgence of which I was forever barred, then impotent envy and bitter indignation filled me with an insatiable search for vengeance.” Frankenstein sees the monster as a cold-hearted murderer, but the monster views himself as a tragic hero.

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I think that Victor was thinking irrationally because he was so obsessed with creating life he never really considered about what would happen when the creature was actually there and he never really considered how he'd care for this monster

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Can obsessions be beneficial?

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How do we develop obsessions?

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Lucas made a good point that the quest for power that Macbeth went on is a perfect example. When we want something as bad as he does, the drive can cause madness for something that is tough to acquire.

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Justin Clemens - What is the farthest we have seen a character go due to having an obsession?

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I aint getting thrown

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victor was obsessed with creating the monster

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Do less sensations lead to more unbiased judgments since there are less factors to sway your opinion? Like how De Lacey was blind so he didn't judge Frankenstein based off of his appearance?

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I feel like if the monster wasn't so big he would be less intimidating and people would maybe give him a chance

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Does obsession over something always have to result in negative consequences?

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Wyatt made a good point that stereotypes play an unfair role in how we see other, and in the case of the monster, it was shown that without the pre-conceived notions of something ugly being a threat, De Lacey enjoyed his time with the monster and was respectful to him

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"Every night I was oppressed by a slow fever, and I became nervous to a most painful degree; the fall of a leaf startled me, and I shunned my fellow creatures as if I had been guilty of a crime." (4.55). The isolation being portrayed by Victor is not only psychological but physical as well. Countless hours that Victor has spent creating this monster has caused him to become ill, malnourished, and deprived of sleep. Obsessiveness has driven Victor into this state of mind which then pulls him away from any, and all, outside communication which just shows the irrationality.

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I think Stereotypes affect us because of social media and making it much easier to communicate with many people

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Can our perceptions of people cause us to be disappointed if they don't live up to our expectations?

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I think obsessions can be beneficial because they help you develop a passion, though there is a fine line between beneficial and hurtful. Some obsessions can be taken too far

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I disagree because I think that you remember positive experiences more than negative. For example I'm not going to remember getting a bad grade on an ice but I will remember the good time with my friends.

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I think that both parents and friends are equally as important in terms of influence. There are unique ideas only either group can provide, and every idea can influence and shape you and your ideals

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i agree with nabjav ( sorry i spelled it wrong) when a child is young and they hurt themselves it is lesson that they learn and they don't do that action again because they know they will get hurt

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I think Navjot is right that negative experiences have more of a hefty impact on our perceptions, and this can easily result in a more negatie world view due to this memory "trick".

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I think negative experiences impact our perspectives more, because it makes us want to avoid negative experiences again. The monster from Frankenstein made those impulsive choices of killing those people based off of his negative experiences with people in society, like being abandoned by his creator, getting kicked out of Felix's house, and everyone fearing him in general. Those negative experiences have a bigger impact than the positive experiences the monster has had, like learning from Felix and Safie, etc.

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No, irrational behavior isn't always rooted in obession